What am I doing wrong?

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   Engeltaposted 8 years ago

   I am active on Hubpages, I promote my hubs everywhere I can, I have new readers everyday, and new followers every two-three days, I get positive comments or thumbs up, I have written new hubs... I don't know what I am doing wrong :S
   This one for example http://engelta.hubpages.com/hub/How-to- … a-hair-bun
   is a hub I have worked on a lot and promoted a lot, but it has not raised :S.. English is not my native language, so I have been thinking if writing is my issue.. Can you possibly help me by pointing out my mistakes? Thank you )

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      colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I see you have a One Million views accolade.
      I see you are using photos from lulus.com and they are copyrighted images. --- Do you have permission to use those images? 
      
      Are you trying raise the score? 
      
      The photos about "hair bun" are from http://blog.lulus.com/?s=hair+bun&submit=SEARCH 
      "COPYRIGHT 2015 LULUS.COM"

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         colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         I looked at your SEO hub also and it has images from other sites with their brand names on the images. That is a "mistake". 
         
         It says in your profile that you "aspires to become a lawyer".
         I hope you will learn about copyright laws on the internet.
         
         You are doing something RIGHT to get 1million views in 12 months.
         But...

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         Engeltaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Hubpages won't allow me to put links in every single photo, so I have put them away :S I will try to change that though, or at least write the site in a caption. The thing is that I find these images on google, and they do not have a copyright or anything like that :S Is it my bad?

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            PegCole17posted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Google images are not all free to use despite putting a link to them. It's best to find photos that are clearly marked with creative commons usage and free to share with proper attribution. Try Wikimedia Commons images and be sure to note the copyright restrictions.
            http://hubpages.com/learningcenter/legal-image-use
            
            Congratulations on the high traffic views. You're obviously doing something right.

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               Engeltaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               So, if I find and upload watermarked photos I am OK?

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                  PegCole17posted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  Directly from the link above you will find this info: It's NOT okay to:
                  
                  
                  

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                     Engeltaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     oh, thank you:)

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            colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            No, it is not that you are bad. I am sorry if you felt that way. I believe you are fairly new to writing online and did not know what you were doing. We all have to learn somehow and having a supportive community on HubPages is a great place to learn.
            
            We could learn from you on how to get more views.
            I wish you success going forward.

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            Enigmamityposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            How can you be so sure that it is free from copyright, Engelta?The next time select only those images labeled for reuse. All the best.

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      NateB11posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Does your traffic come from search engines or social media? I think it's possible that search engine traffic brings up scores, I think this was said somewhere on a forum or blog post. Search engine traffic tends to lead to people staying on the page and maybe buying something, etc. I think social media traffic tends to flit through quickly, and I think time on page has something to do with score. Maybe see if some SEO work on keyphrases in your title might bring in more "quality" traffic.

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         NateB11posted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Although according to this http://blog.hubpages.com/2015/02/26/an- … -hubscore/ traffic is less of a factor in Hub score. But I think search engine traffic tends to interact more on articles and stay longer on the page, which are factors of Hub score.

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         Engeltaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Oh, that is what I have been thinking too! I think I have lost traffic from search engines when I have been focusing on social media!

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      jonnycomelatelyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I have written a couple of comments to you on that hub.  Had not noticed the copyright issue until Colorfulone mentioned it.
      You are obviously trying hard, but I reiterate the point about legalities and becoming a lawyer.  I hope this experience stands you in good stead for the future.

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         Engeltaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks!! I will try do better in other hubs, or I will fill the photos' captions when I will edit the hubs.

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      peachpurpleposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Get your photos from pixabay or freedigitalphotos, those are free to use images

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         Engeltaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         You were very helpful! Thanks

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      relacheposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Using a sock to make a hair bun is a beauty trick that I learned over thirty years ago, and it's an even older method really.  What about doing that or using that method is described on your Hub and nowhere else?  Unless you can show an old trick in a new light, putting up very commonly known information might not draw as much of an audience as you anticipated.

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         Engeltaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Yeah, you are right in fact, but this hub also has different hair models, and it is one of my very first hubs. It has done well nonetheless.

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      yefesosabuposted 8 years agoin reply to this

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         jonnycomelatelyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Hi folks.... check this site out....
         
         http://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/netjob80.com
         
         I cannot be sure, but it would be worth a LOT of caution, in my opinion.

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   belleartposted 8 years ago

   The Hub seems great to me, lots of information and photos to help.  Its possible your not getting enough views from Google, but I've also noticed that even if I get hundreds of views from fellow hubbers its not enough to bring up my score unless I have some google views too.  Great hub though, I'm so trying that messy bun!

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      Engeltaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Yeah, I think Google has something to do with it. I am not getting many views from Google lately. This might be a serious issue :S

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   Good Guyposted 8 years ago

   !2 months with over a million views is a very great achievement.  It took me many years to reach that.  I think you are referring to your hubber score showed on your photo.  How are your average hub score?

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      Engeltaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Not good :S It has fallen to 60 this days, and my Hubberscore to 54.. but I have had them up to 82 before and they stayed that way for like 3-4 months until this month they fell to these low numbers \\..

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         Good Guyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Not to worry too much about the score value.  Believe me, your view stats of over a million in such a short period of 12 months speak greatly for your hubs.  Readership/pageviews is what is most important.  This will also enhance your ads earnings, I am sure you know that.

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            Engeltaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            I know that, but I have realized that the HubberScore has an effect on my earnings.

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               Good Guyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               I don't think hubber score has anything to do with ads earnings. Only pageviews.   Maybe some knowledgeable hubbers can comment on this.

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                  Engeltaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  I say so because I have realized that for the same amount of views, I have earned less or more money depending on my hubberscore.

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                     colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     This post by Maffew James about  Advertising CPMs is interesting and helpful. I think it has more to do with earnings than our hubberscores do.
                     http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/130110#post2727689

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                  NateB11posted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  I think the effect might be in the reverse; if you don't get quality traffic, then earnings drop; I think quality traffic has something to do with Hubber score, though traffic generally has less to do with the score; it does indirectly affect score though, because I think quality traffic tends to stay on the page longer and interact in some way.

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                     Engeltaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     This is exactly what I am trying to figure out: HubberScore is linked with traffic from Google or not..

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                        NateB11posted 8 years agoin reply to this

                        One thing you can do is look at Google Analytics and find out how long people are staying on an article. If they stay awhile, it looks good as far as Hub score goes.
                        
                        In Analytics you can go to Behavior in left side bar; go to Site Content and then All Pages; from there you can see Average Time on Page for each article.

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                           Engeltaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                           I will check it right now.

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                           Engeltaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                           I checked it.. The average time is 18 sec. I think that is not much, I do not know. But I checked the other months as well [when my Hubberscore was 82] and even then the average time was 18 sec.

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                              NateB11posted 8 years agoin reply to this

                              Sounds like they are not spending much time on a page. I like to see at least a few minutes on a page. So, I'd say you would need traffic that spends more time on the page and/or put things on the page that keeps people on the page. I think search engine traffic is more likely to spend time on the pages because they have searched for the subject matter in the search engine.

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                                 NateB11posted 8 years agoin reply to this

                                 Hub score changes over time and takes time to calculate, plus they changed the algorithm recently, so maybe back when your score was 82 it hadn't completely calculated certain things and also it might have been before they made the changes to how hubscore is calculated.

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                                 Engeltaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                                 Thank you for your advice.

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                                    NateB11posted 8 years agoin reply to this

                                    No problem. Hope it helps.

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   The Examiner-1posted 8 years ago

   Have you looked at how you are doing in Google Analytics? They will tell you whether viewers are reading your Hubs all of the way - or only part of the way - through from beginning to end. If they are not reading them all of the way then there is not enough interest in the Hubs to keep them reading.
   You may have to spice up the contents a little. Just because you have high traffic and views does not always mean that you are doing well. You have to look behind the scenes to know the entire whole truth.

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      Engeltaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Where do I look if they read a hub from beginning to end or just partially?

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         The Examiner-1posted 8 years agoin reply to this

         All you can do is go to Google Analytics and click on Reporting at the top of the first page. When the second page comes up go to the left and at the bottom of the list you will see "Users Flow". Click on that. To the right you see sections with (short) names of Hubs - you have to get use to figuring them out.
         Hover above the green area and a white area appears which shows a pie chart. It explains that the blue is "Through" traffic (readers) and how many you have and "Drop Offs" and how many. The Hubs with more drop offs (red) are the Hubs which are not doing well. These are the ones which you have to improve somehow.

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            PegCole17posted 8 years agoin reply to this

            This was really helpful, The Examiner. The Google Users flow report shows I need to do a lot of work...

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               The Examiner-1posted 8 years agoin reply to this

               I am glad that it was helpful Peg. It was helpful to me.

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            SheilaMilneposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            I understood that drop-offs were people who didn't visit a second article (More by.. or Related..).  Possibly more likely than people who left immediately.

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               The Examiner-1posted 8 years agoin reply to this

               No. They are readers who do not finish reading the article.

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                  SheilaMilneposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  They can get all the way to the end without clicking on anything so Analytics has no way of telling.  When I queried this, I was referred to an article http://cutroni.com/blog/2012/02/29/unde … culations/ which describes how they do it.  It appears to be dependent on a "hit".

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                     The Examiner-1posted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     I will read that because I seem to have many views but when I look closer they "Drop Off" but do not leave comments.

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                  psycheskinnerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  There is no analytic that tells you whether people read to the end of an article or not, only whether the next pages they go to is also on hubpages.
                  
                  The best indication of how far they read is time spent on page, but they may have spent that time staring out the window--no way to know.

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                     The Examiner-1posted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     psycheskinner,
                     When it says "Thru" (it shows in read in the pie chart) that is what it means - that they have read the entire article. "Drop Off" is when thy only read part of the article.

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                        psycheskinnerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                        Through means they clicked through to another page on the same domain.  There is absolutely no way at all to know what they read.
                        
                        http://www.rankraiser.com/rankraiser/di … drop-offs/
                        
                        Drop off is just a word for bouncing that relates to more than the first page viewed.  Through is a word to describe people who do not drop off on that page but go to a second page in the same domain
                        
                        IMHO a person who drops off may well be the perfect visitor, reading the whole article and exiting via an advertisement.

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                           The Examiner-1posted 8 years agoin reply to this

                           I did not read that site before since I received it just before I signed off. So I bookmarked it. I read both of them now and I see what you mean. I had more readers than I thought but for some reason they do not leave comments.

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   Enigmamityposted 8 years ago

   How do I write more useful content? My bounce rate on Google Analytics is high which is not good news for me. Which sites should I read to enhance my knowledge base...I have written just four hubs till now and am hungry for more..Please provide me your valuable inputs and rate my hubs: my link is http://enigmamity.hubpages.com/

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      The Examiner-1posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      First of all, this is not where you should be asking this but I looked over a couple of your Hubs. Even though your spelling and such looks okay you seem to have a problem with spacing - mainly before and after punctuation.
      You should also have 3 (or more) photos in your Hubs and use ones which are free for public use because you are supposed to show your source. In the FAQ and Learning Center you can find out which sites HP takes them from. I use Wikimedia Commons most of the time.

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         Enigmamityposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks Examiner and sorry for posting my query here. I will update the photos and mention their sources.

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            The Examiner-1posted 8 years agoin reply to this

            I was only making you aware of such so that you knew. What you do is search for a forum about what you are mentioning. If there is none then you need to start a new one or, if it is small, ask a question.

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   Enigmamityposted 8 years ago

   I made the changes and my Hubscore went up! Thank you Examiner.

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      Engeltaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      What exact changes did you make ? Because I am trying everything I can and I am not seeing results :S

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         relacheposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Have you tried these changes?
         http://hubpages.com/learningcenter/legal-image-use

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            Engeltaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            So you are suggesting that I edit all my hubs and put the sources to the photos? Is it OK if I put there only the name of the photographer? Or the link is absolutely necessary? Thank you )

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               Enigmamityposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               See it depends on where you got the photo from. Try to get as much information about the photos as possible. Only if you don't get any link or such try including only the photographer's name.At least you are giving credit to the owner. Even I am new to Hubpages. I too, am learning

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         Enigmamityposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Firstly as there were no grammar mistakes, I just updated my article on Net Neutrality based on the latest information that I could gather regarding the same. This was necessary because it is an ongoing topic and has to be updated as much as possible. Moreover, as suggested by Examiner, I removed all the photos and searched for Google Images that were labelled for reuse.You can check this in the Search tools option when you open Google images. Click on the not filtered by license option and make it labeled for reuse. I thus attributed all images and used only those which were legal. Try searching for images on search.creativecommons.org. Or you can do as relache has suggested. The Hubpages Learning Center can unfailingly give you awesome advice !

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            Engeltaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Thank you so much! I will commit to edit all of my hubs photos !

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               colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               That is great news. A wise choice to only use images that are legal to reuse.

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                  Enigmamityposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  Thank you colorfulone. I will share more info about this soon.

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                     Engeltaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     I edit 5 of my hubs, because I have 68, a lot to change in one single day. To the ones I made changes, I edit the title using the Keyword Tool provided by Google and added new images that are labeled for reuse, as you advised me. Lets see if it will work for me

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                        Enigmamityposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                        You can add the hyperlink to the images in the edit image option and also mention the source. I am sorry if I am making you toil a lot.

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                           Engeltaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                           I have worked on the photos for the last days, put the source, double checked their quality, added tables, quizes and polls, and nothing has changed.
                           I am giving up on it I can't find out what the problem is.

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                              Enigmamityposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                              I am sorry Engelta. No more comments from me on the same. Maybe some experienced hubbers can help you.

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                                 Engeltaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                                 Well, thank you )

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   The Examiner-1posted 8 years ago

   Enigmamity,
   You are welcome.

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   clivewilliamsposted 8 years ago

   1 million views! you should be giving a lot of us here advise including myself!!

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      Engeltaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      hahaha thank you!! I have been promoting them a lot during summer in social media, because I had a lot of free times in my hands. The thing is I have not been very active these months, so most of the views are those by summer. Anyway, I have also always had a Hubberscore of 78-82, never this low . This is the first month for me that my Hubberscore won't raise, it has stayed 53 for a long time now and I am going crazy! haha

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