Horror of horrors, lots of © on my hubs

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   Good Guyposted 9 years ago

   At first I thought I was being penalized with copyright infringement when I saw this sign © on 25 of my hubs, for the first time today.  Then I scrolled down to see whether I was in deep trouble, and it showed © = Possibly Copied by Someone Else.  Phew!!  I won't waste my time chasing after the culprits.  Put it this way, "Copying is the sincerest form of flattery".  LOL!

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      ChristinSposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      No, it isn't flattery it's theft, and when people allow it, it makes it easier for the culprits to keep doing it to other people as well.

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         Good Guyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         I know they are downright thieves.

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         LillyGrillzitposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         1+

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   Good Guyposted 9 years ago

   I don't have the time nor the expertise to go after these scoundrels.  I think hp admin should work out something to prevent this rampant robberies.  The present scenario is not good for hubbers as well as for Hubpages.  Don't you think so?

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      Pearldiverposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      It's far worse for all when as individuals we don't issue Take Downs via DMCA facilities that are there for that very reason.
      I find it interesting that you took the time to 'proudly' publish your work, yet once it has been stolen and republished, you don't wish to make recovery of Your Brand a priority on the excuse of not having time.
      Where do you park your vehicle Good Guy?
      Let me know and I can put your details into a hub and publish it online! Get my point?
      Of course, you wouldn't like your vehicle stolen -
      Well your hubs are also your property and the DMCA process is a relatively simple process to follow, giving you the opportunity to salvage Your Property, but not your car though
      Do yourself a major favour...
      Scrag the thieves mate!
      Take the time - it's worth it. True!
      I think you'll you get your confidence back once you've filed your first notice
      I believe there are available details in the learning centre menu. No expertise required GG.
      Bon Chance mon ami

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         Good Guyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Hi Pearldiver, I am trying my best to deal with the scoundrels.  However each time when I see something like "we are unable to identify Url,etc"  I get confused.  To you who are expert in this nitty gritty, it is easy.  But for us who are not internet savvy, it is like hitting a rock.  Thanks for your advice, just the same.  Cheers!

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            viryaboposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            You are not alone.

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            Pearldiverposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Okay buddy copy & paste the intro to your hub and/or a block or random text within the body of your hub into your Google search, the search engine is likely then to give you a number of locations where that text is published online. Take a note of each of those locations (their URLs should be there) Each of these sites have published a copy of your original... there will be quite a few if you haven't cleaned your hubs of leeches for awhile.
            Each of these sites that you are given must receive a DMCA as well as Google who actually are pretty good. Go to the learning centre here and retrieve the link etc for lodging it. Sorry I haven't got the links in this computer.
            Now if any of those urls in your search are unidentified, then it is likely they have been scraped from here and put up on Chinese site(s). - You still report that to Google via DMCA doc.
            
            What exactly have you done to gain identification of the sites so far?
            Have you done the above yet?
            If so, what came up? 
            I once did this with one hub a funny one and found 18 illegal publishing thieves.
            It only took 3 days before they were all taken down, so as I said earlier it's worth doing GG.
            Sorry if I seem a bit disjointed in what I'm trying to say here... I've online for hours and my head keeps hitting my keyboard

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               viryaboposted 9 years agoin reply to this

               Thanks a bunch for this Pearldiver. I shall try again.
               
               I had tried to do some in the past, but according to my stats, even after filing the DMCA's, the "© - Possibly Copied by Someone Else" still appears on my stats page. I just got so tired of this.

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                  TIMETRAVELER2posted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  It will appear until the perpetrator removes it or until you know they have done so and report back to the team.
                  
                  I have even been known to make a "courtesy" call to the thief with a warning that I will file if the article is not immediately removed.  This works well some of the time and costs nothing to do if they are located in my own country.
                  
                  If you try and fail to get a copied article remove, contact Google.  They have the authority to check on it and determine whether it is indeed a copy.  If so, they can ban that party from receiving Adsense...aka...any future income.

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                     viryaboposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                     Thank you so much TIMETRAVELER2. I guess i really have to do this. Can't run away from it much longer.
                     Phew! Just got through filing for 10 of my copied works, and will continue tomorrow.
                     
                     It's such a chore though. Will they ever stop?

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                  Pearldiverposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  @viryabo thanks for your faith... sorry I was unable to provide the links at the time which I note you guys now have... I did have faith that someone else would put them up and yes that happened and is the first step in an interesting journey as you will see. Enjoy the view on the way... it's one all writers must take and view at some stage, might as well be now. Good luck.

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      TIMETRAVELER2posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      The team cannot help anybody with this problem because only the person who wrote the article can legally complain about it being stolen.  However, they have a wonderful section on filing DMCA reports that can help.
      
      It is not that hard to do if you set up a system like the one I use.
      
      I use the basic complaint report offered by the team (or you can find one on the web to copy and use)
      
      Here's a link that can help you:  http://hubpages.com/learningcenter/how- … -complaint
      
      I keep it on my desktop in a special file.
      
      Then I go to "WhoIsHostingThis dot com".  They ask you to type in the URL of the offending article, and when you do a long list of information shows up.  If you scroll towards the bottom you will find the email addresses of the offender as well as the host.
      
      At this point simply copy the chosen address into an email, put the required URLs (yours and theirs) into the right slots, sign, date and email.
      
      Save a copy for yourself so you will know what you sent and to whom.
      
      If you keep a blank form and the lookup address handy, it takes about five minutes to do the whole thing.
      
      When you get the notice, if you open your hub and click on the warning sign, you will see the information you need to find the article and its URL.
      
      I thought it was hard, also, but it really is not.  Just take it one step at a time.  Don't let these people get away with this!
      
      If you cannot find the info you seek, post here and some of the gurus will help you to find it.
      
      Good luck.

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         Good Guyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Hi TIMETRAVELER2,
         A million thanks for your detailed instructions.  I shall copy this and save it in doc, then I shall proceed to follow your method. It will take time to learn the ropes.  But I shall for sure, take on this "difficult and time-comsuming" task.:

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   ChristinSposted 9 years ago

   Take a few minutes to learn how to do it.  I am sure there are hubs written on how to do this as well as many previous forum posts where helpful hubbers have walked others through the process.  When you plant a garden, sometimes you have to pull weeds.  Is it frustrating yes, but it is also part of the process of being an online writer sadly.  Because you own the copyright to your work, HubPages doesn't go after the content scrapers.  I wish there was more on HP's side that could be done as well.

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      Pearldiverposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Christine
      All the details, links, lodgement materials are available via Google's webmaster site... perhaps someone could provide a link.. I'm not on my laptop, so I haven't got them at my fingertips... Sorry GG

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         Good Guyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Hi Pearldiver;
         It's difficult for you to empathize with us.  I don't blame you.  Something seems to be so basic to you is actually not so with us. This is because I don't have anyone to guide me.  I am just like half blind trying to search for a lost needle.  Sometimes I just didn't know how to proceed further. It is not easy to explain when I am already so confused after clicking a few pages and still go nowhere.   But never mind, I will just try my best slowly, as I don't want to spend so much time in frustration, when I have lots to do in the internet.  Thanks a lot.  I appreciate.  As you know this is not a new topic, it is a recurring or rather, perpetual problem.   Thanks again.

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   Pearldiverposted 9 years ago

   Hey Guys...
   You should know me of old... I've always gone after scrapers of our hard work even to the point that I've been banned once or twice for my overzealous hound-dogging. The only problem I have atm is that I'm not at home on my own equipment, thus all my tools are not (links etc.) with me. Tomorrow is a different story however. In the meantime, I hope that someone else Like Rae, or others can put up the details.
   GG you don't have to justify or explain anything to me, I understand completely how lost you feel, but you did mention something that can do.
   Why not have a little search through the forum subjects and find an old one on DMCAs or article thieves - there was a beauty that I was involved in with a site called '68 Articles' punch that into the HP search and scan through it. We closed those guys down at the time so it contains the take down process etc. between some very passionate conversations. A good place to start GG, have a look.
   I will be back in about 20 hours with some help. Check it out guys.. good luck

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      Good Guyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks Pearldiver,
      As I have assured in one of my replies, I shall definitely embark on this arduous task.  Take time to learn the ropes.  But I shall continue to persevere.

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         Pearldiverposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Cheers for putting up those links TT & Christin - just what was needed to get Good Guy sorted.

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            TIMETRAVELER2posted 9 years agoin reply to this

            I understood just how he feels because I went through that same thing myself awhile back.  It seems overwhelming but really isn't once you set up a little system like the one I showed him.  He'll be fine now.

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               Pearldiverposted 9 years agoin reply to this

               I've spent days hunting them down also. Sadly, it's now part and parcel of being a content writer. It's bad enough that we have to contend with individuals stealing our work, but it's now so easy for anyone to purchase and use scraper programs that have the ability to rape the entire contents of a site like this. Some are even so brazen with that content that they don't even bother removing the author's name, it's syndicated for a price and dressed up for click through income, overnight. I remember getting a hell of surprise when I first saw that I had been published in China

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   ChristinSposted 9 years ago

   Even if you don't want to file DMCA complaints with web hosts, you can always file with Google to have the infringing page de-indexed from search results. 
   
   Here is a blog post that explains simply how to do this and track it in WebMaster tools and it gives you direct links for having your content removed from blogger, youtube and other Google related things as well.
   
   http://www.9to5blogger.com/track-dmca-c … tatus/376/

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      Good Guyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Ok Thanks Christin.  Shall take on the challenge.

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   Good Guyposted 9 years ago

   I think Hp team can put in a block preventing people from easily "copy & paste".  This will reduce the incidence of copyright infringement.

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      SheilaMilneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Unfortunately most copying is done by website scrapers, automated bots, that don't depend on copying and pasting.  It's very easy, anyway, to get around a block on copying.

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   Zander Collisionposted 9 years ago

   If you are so generous, then can I have all your articles? *sarcasm*
   
   I would request you to file DMCA complains. If you dont understand then ask for help, you just cant quit like this.

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   earnerposted 9 years ago

   I've tried to stamp it out in the past and it's slow, long-winded and chews you up. 
   
   The DMCA route, by the time you've got your head round it etc ....can deflate you for the whole day and really make you angry.  And then they still stay up there.

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      Good Guyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Hi earner, you are so right!!

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   Helena Rickettsposted 9 years ago

   Hub theft is common around here.  I have one hub that was copied 17 times.

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    KoffeeKlatch Galsposted 9 years ago

    Copying is just plain stealing.  You have done the work why should anyone else be able to take it and make money?

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