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Conflicted with moving hubs to a vertical network site

  1. Michael Kismet profile image85
    Michael Kismetposted 10 months ago

    I already have a number of hubs moved to the Hubpages network sites, but haven't really seen a drastic traffic change in said hubs. So, is it worth the risk to submit one of my hubs that already receives a decent amount of daily views to a vertical site?

    I'd hate to see aforementioned hub drop in traffic due to being moved to a vertical network site.  Any thoughts, anyone?

    1. wilderness profile image93
      wildernessposted 10 months ago in reply to this

      Every hubber is different, but the large majority that have moved seems very pleased.  I know I am - views are up over 100% and income even better.  With less than half my hubs being moved.

      1. Michael Kismet profile image85
        Michael Kismetposted 10 months ago in reply to this

        Now that is a ringing endorsement, I will stay the course and move whichever hubs I can..thank you for your input, Dan.

    2. Marisa Wright profile image95
      Marisa Wrightposted 10 months ago in reply to this

      It's always a risk, but the fact is that the niche sites are the future of HubPages.

      ALL of HubPages' top-performing Hubs have now been moved to the niche sites.  Moderators are now trawling through the rest to find hidden nuggets - Hubs that are high quality but not getting the traffic they deserve.  It stands to reason that as all the good Hubs are moved off the main site, the main site is going to sink lower and lower in Google's estimation.

      So my answer would be, yes you might get a dip in traffic if you move a Hub to a niche site, but in the long run it is bound to do better there.   Whereas if it stays on the main site, traffic is likely to decline.

      1. Michael Kismet profile image85
        Michael Kismetposted 10 months ago in reply to this

        Rest assured, I'm picking up everything you're putting down.  smile   

        As always, I appreciate your no nonsense, apt responses.

        Thank you, Marisa.

        1. Marisa Wright profile image95
          Marisa Wrightposted 10 months ago in reply to this

          You're welcome. Glad to see you got a response on the DMCA by the way, I missed that post.

      2. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image92
        TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 months ago in reply to this

        What makes you think the team has already rounded up the most well performing hubs already?  I don't think so.  I was told some time back that it is likely that all of my RV hubs would be moved...yet there are still around 40 or so still sitting on the HP site.  If I request one be moved, it goes instantly, but I just haven't taken the time to do that.  Two days ago I wrote a new hub on my second site, and it didn't even last a day before they moved it.

        I think they're still quite active and am glad of it!

        1. Marisa Wright profile image95
          Marisa Wrightposted 7 months ago in reply to this

          Yes they are still active, that's not the point.

          You may recall, with the first tranche of Hubs that were moved, they used traffic as a criteria  There is a comment from staff somewhere that something like 70% of HubPages' traffic came from 20% of the Hubs, and they moved that top 20%.  The idea was that those Hubs must already have a "gold star" from Google, so they could be moved quickly. 

          Now, the team are treading more carefully because they are considering Hubs which are not getting spectacular traffic.  Why aren't they getting traffic?  Could there by something about them that Google doesn't like?  They don't want to move any Hubs that will upset Google. So they're going more slowly.

    3. Solaras profile image92
      Solarasposted 9 months ago in reply to this

      It may also depend on which network site your are aiming for.  The family/parenting one evidently is not doing as well as some of the others.  Which site were you hoping to have your hub transferred to?

    4. Let-freedom-rigng profile image59
      Let-freedom-rigngposted 9 months ago in reply to this

      I would think if your item is doing well where it is, then leave it where it is. Is it making any money? I don't really know that you will do any better if you put it here. Besides, you would have to delete the current post, so that your article or post doesn't represent a fraudulent copy of your own or someone else's work.

    5. OldRoses profile image87
      OldRosesposted 7 months ago in reply to this

      I really hate to be a wet blanket here, but every single one of my hubs that has been moved to a vertical site has lost all of its traffic.  Despite being on the niche sites since their inception, none of my hubs that have been moved have ever regained more than a trickle of their former traffic.  Despite that poor experience, I am submitting hubs to be considered to be moved because my fear is that the parent Hub Pages site is a sinking ship so it is better to have only a trickle of traffic than none at all.

  2. NateB11 profile image93
    NateB11posted 9 months ago

    Others have already said this, but I guess I'll confirm it too. My Hubs generally see an increase in traffic when they are moved to niche sites. So, my feeling is that niche sites will just improve traffic and earnings. I've never submitted one to be moved yet though. If one is already doing well, not sure if I'd move it or not. I thought the advice from admin (anyone, correct me if I'm wrong) was to submit older Hubs with lower traffic - after improvements are made on them.

    1. wilderness profile image93
      wildernessposted 9 months ago in reply to this

      As I understand it, HubPages wants top hubs moved, which includes high traffic ones.

      But consider: if you move a hub getting 10 views per day and traffic doubles, your efforts at re-writing gain you 10 views/day.  If you do the same with a hub getting 500 views/day, you stand to gain 500 views for the same effort.  Which makes more sense? 

      Yes, there is risk, but I have yet to see any hub drop in traffic for more than a few days.  And most have doubled.

      1. Let-freedom-rigng profile image59
        Let-freedom-rigngposted 9 months ago in reply to this

        If they move to hubpages? Well that sounds promising. But I kind of like the idea of writing new articles. Instead of rewriting old articles.

        Start a new article with a same topic, perhaps.

        1. Marisa Wright profile image95
          Marisa Wrightposted 9 months ago in reply to this

          We're talking about submitting a Hub to be promoted from the HubPages main site to the niche sites.

      2. NateB11 profile image93
        NateB11posted 9 months ago in reply to this

        Here it says: "You may want to consider submitting your highest-quality and lowest-traffic articles first—lower-traffic articles are likely to be further down in our selection queue. " It says it near the beginning of the post under "Article Submission - You only submit one article every 60 days".
        http://blog.hubpages.com/2016/08/09/aut … -requests/

  3. Michael Kismet profile image85
    Michael Kismetposted 9 months ago

    I want to thank everyone for taking the time to help out a fellow hubber, which reaffirms why HubPages is such a great platform to write on..

    I got all the answers I needed, so at this point we're all just whipping the proverbial dead horse.  Marisa has spoken, and I take her word as LAW.  Seriously Marisa, if you ever feel like stirring up a revolution, I'll be right behind you.  smile

  4. Marcy Goodfleisch profile image94
    Marcy Goodfleischposted 9 months ago

    I agree with everyone else here who has seen positive results. I have not initiated requests, but several of mine have been moved and are now my top-performing hubs. The first ones that were moved were generally better performers to begin with, but some, even though they were written as well, were not getting much traffic. At first, I did no editing or tweaking - I had been inactive here for a long while. When I saw the increased traffic and revenue from the niche sites, I began editing a bit as I found things that could be updated or where I could enhance the SEO elements.

    The niche sites give our work traffic due to consolidating the topics or themes - this is very significant - a person can land on the niche site by searching for an entirely different piece and then be driven to your work because of the internal links and the relevance. When our work is on the niche sites, Google isn't filtering things in the same manner. UGCs (user-generated content sites) are penalized due to the diversity of the topics and the lack of consistency in quality.

    Marisa is right - niche sites are the future of HubPages. I hope HP considers additional themes going forward - there's some great writing on the site that doesn't yet fit into one of the current niche themes.

    1. Marisa Wright profile image95
      Marisa Wrightposted 9 months ago in reply to this

      +1

  5. bzirkone profile image80
    bzirkoneposted 7 months ago

    This comment may be missed as this thread is idle. 

    I've been away for a long time and logged in tonight to work on a new hub and made a stab at getting caught up on all the changes.

    The niche sites that I looked at - specifically the "Delishably" site is visually unattractive, noisy and awkward.  As a reader/consumer I would immediately navigate away from this site if I landed on it looking for a recipe. The site is primitive and looks spammy.  I tried some of the other sites and apparently they all share the same style and format.

    Anybody else feel the same way? Maybe it's just me.

    -bzirkone

  6. simplehappylife profile image82
    simplehappylifeposted 7 months ago

    Good Question

  7. Maria Cecilia profile image83
    Maria Ceciliaposted 6 months ago

    I am very new to the Hubpages network sites, and with just two of my hubs that transferred, I can observe the traffic increase..

 
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