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Editbot is making another pass

  1. Sherry Hewins profile image96
    Sherry Hewinsposted 8 months ago

    It seems Editbot is at work again. Had several little fixes, almost all in comments.

    1. kenneth avery profile image77
      kenneth averyposted 8 months ago in reply to this

      Sherry, may I share a rather confusing experience that I had with Editbot?
      I published a hub after checking, re-checking for things that would possibly be flagged. Then in about 12 hours, I receive a notification that the hub that I had published needed attention.
      Editbot had scrapped a video on the hub and in HP's explanation, "video was not relevant to the topic," which the topic was about things we say and do in redundance.
      The video was about JUST THAT: redundant speech.
      But Editbot said it was irrelevant.

      1. lobobrandon profile image83
        lobobrandonposted 8 months ago in reply to this

        I'm sorry to hear that Kenneth. But I think that's not the doing of the Editbot. It just edits language as far as I know. I did have an amazon capsule removed from one of my hubs - completely related, though it was... Anyway, not a biggie. But I'm going to assume that's not Editbots work. Unless the algorithm is changed drastically.

        1. kenneth avery profile image77
          kenneth averyposted 8 months ago in reply to this

          @lobobrandon, you set a fine example of understanding. I think that I will do what you do. Nothing and move ahead.

    2. PegCole17 profile image91
      PegCole17posted 8 months ago in reply to this

      What I want to know is why is the editbot running through our unpublished articles? And what do they expect us to do on comments that are not grammatically sound ? There's a reason these articles are not published. Usually it's because we've decided not to use them or they are waiting for an edit by our own eyes. I'm finding this rather frustrating and unacceptable. I despise seeing that green pencil on my hubs and am not happy about them messing with hubs I am currently working on. And for another thing, editbot is not even a proper word.
      Rant over.
      http://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/13352467.jpg

      1. lobobrandon profile image83
        lobobrandonposted 8 months ago in reply to this

        A bot that edits, it's a name given to the algorithm. You can't tell someone their name isn't a word. The same way you can't say Editbot isn't even a word. Hubpages isn't a word either.

        And they've set it loose on every hub, not just ones that were never published, also the ones that are unpublished.

      2. Sherry Hewins profile image96
        Sherry Hewinsposted 8 months ago in reply to this

        Usually, their edits are correct. I certainly don't mind them fixing typos, whether in hubs or comments. I do recommend looking at all edits though. I did have one where they changed a person's name. They changed Peter Noone to Peter no one. Not good.

        1. janshares profile image90
          jansharesposted 8 months ago in reply to this

          +1

      3. theraggededge profile image96
        theraggededgeposted 8 months ago in reply to this

        Peg, that's not Editbot, that little red pencil symbol means that an editor is snipping your hub, usually in preparation for it being moved to a niche site. Editbot looks like a little black robot-like thing.

        1. Marisa Wright profile image92
          Marisa Wrightposted 8 months ago in reply to this

          Raggededge, you need to catch up!   The little red pencil now denotes EITHER a snip OR an editbot.

          1. theraggededge profile image96
            theraggededgeposted 8 months ago in reply to this

            Well I never. There's me thinking how lovely they all look - Christmassy, even big_smile

            1. Marisa Wright profile image92
              Marisa Wrightposted 8 months ago in reply to this

              Oh dear, it must be a bit of a drop if you thought they were all about to move to the niches!

              1. theraggededge profile image96
                theraggededgeposted 8 months ago in reply to this

                Ah, but most of those 'marked' have already gone to niche heaven smile I just haven't bothered clicking on the symbol because I am lazy like that.

                Just checked and there are a few low-performing hubs at the bottom of the pile that haven't been moved and which do have the symbol, so I stand corrected. I see the little black robot is still listed at the bottom of my account page but there are none on the actual hubs, so they aren't using that one anymore?

        2. janshares profile image90
          jansharesposted 8 months ago in reply to this

          Yup, all of my red pencils (at least 40 over the last few days) have been Editbots, only one was a snip of a link box in preparation for a niche site.

          1. theraggededge profile image96
            theraggededgeposted 8 months ago in reply to this

            Oh... I thought Editbot was shown by those little black things? When I click on the green/red symbols, it shows changes made by actual editors. Confusing.

          2. PegCole17 profile image91
            PegCole17posted 8 months ago in reply to this

            Most of the pencils showing on my account page have to do with comments submitted by readers. On one hub, they did snip a text box where I restated my copyright warning. That hub has been consistently plagiarized for five years, so I thought it was appropriate. But I'm okay with them snipping that text to move it to a niche site.

        3. PegCole17 profile image91
          PegCole17posted 8 months ago in reply to this

          I think Jan responded to this already. I have green and red all over my hub account page with pencils correcting my reader's comments. Sheesh!

    3. savvydating profile image83
      savvydatingposted 8 months ago in reply to this

      Are you referring to the icon with a white pencil in the middle? What do we do with it?? I went to the edit section of my hubs and nothing happens. How do I make this work?

      1. Marisa Wright profile image92
        Marisa Wrightposted 8 months ago in reply to this

        You click on the symbol, which will take you to a view of the Hub where you can see the corrections made.

        If you are happy with the corrections, you don't need to do anything.   Just viewing the changes will make the symbol go away.  If the changes are in your Hub and you don't like them, you'll need to edit your Hub to change them back.

        1. savvydating profile image83
          savvydatingposted 8 months ago in reply to this

          I thought that is what I had done. However, I didn't see corrections. Strange. Maybe I will email HP directly. But thank you for your reply. I appreciate it.

          1. Sherry Hewins profile image96
            Sherry Hewinsposted 8 months ago in reply to this

            When they first started it, a lot of people made the mistake of clicking the edit button. If you do that, it won't show you the changes. You have to click on the little pencil thing.

  2. lobobrandon profile image83
    lobobrandonposted 8 months ago

    Yup, it's running through with some improvements. The bot seems to have gotten smarter. Not sure if it's machine learning or a human edited it based on feedback. I've had two small changes on two hubs one was "ofcourse" being changed into "of course" an error that's passed me and other professional editors who have worked on the hub a few times. Not bad in my opinion.

    1. Sherry Hewins profile image96
      Sherry Hewinsposted 8 months ago in reply to this

      Yep, I had freestanding changed to free standing.

      1. wilderness profile image96
        wildernessposted 8 months ago in reply to this

        LOL  I've had several go the other way - two words becoming one.

        But I'd bet I've had two dozen or more hubs checked between yesterday and today.  15 Yesterday and I quit counting today.  Hubs from HP and from niche sites, hubs that have never been done and that have had HubPro over them already.  Seems that everything there is getting hit.

  3. FatFreddysCat profile image92
    FatFreddysCatposted 8 months ago

    Yay, Editbot is back... and it's telling me mainly that the people who comment on my Hubs don't know how to spell!!

    1. Marisa Wright profile image92
      Marisa Wrightposted 8 months ago in reply to this

      Me too! 

      Actually I'm finding this annoying.  The old editbot had two different symbols - one for changes in my Hub, and the other for changes in my comments. 

      I'm happy to let Editbot fix my comments, so I always used to ignore those symbols.  Now I have to check them all because there's no way to know which is which.

      1. lobobrandon profile image83
        lobobrandonposted 8 months ago in reply to this

        Yes I can imagine that being really irritating.

      2. Jean Bakula profile image92
        Jean Bakulaposted 8 months ago in reply to this

        I had a lot of mine checked by Edibot too. I can't recall--are we supposed to fix the changes manually, or does just the fact that we looked at them make it OK and the reader sees only the correction?

        Most of them are on comments. I think it's very unintelligent to make it look like we have so many less comments, it makes it look like less people are interested in our work. Plus, why are we responsible for comments others made? They still took the time to comment, even if they misspelled a word.

        What a waste of time.

        1. lobobrandon profile image83
          lobobrandonposted 8 months ago in reply to this

          No you don't need to do anything. They are only marked in case you want to go in and undo them. Regarding the comments, are you saying that you've had comments be deleted? The editbot is just correcting spellings on the comments.

        2. Marisa Wright profile image92
          Marisa Wrightposted 8 months ago in reply to this

          You don't have to make the changes, you just have to take a look and the sign should go away. 

          Unless you disagree with one of the changes of course - then you can edit your Hub to change it back.

          Comments haven't been removed. When you click on the red pencil, you only see comments with corrections - all the rest are just hidden, they haven't been deleted.

          The reason HubPages does it, is that Google can't tell the difference between your writing and comments. So if there are spelling mistakes in the comments, it thinks they're your fault!  And of course, that makes your Hub look bad.

          1. Jean Bakula profile image92
            Jean Bakulaposted 8 months ago in reply to this

            Thanks Marisa and lobobrandon,
            I thought we didn't have to manually do anything, just look at the hub when the red dot was there to be sure we agreed with it. So I did do the right thing, but it's great to be reassured!

            Ah, that's what was up with the comments. I saw only one or two that had corrections, and knew I had many more comments on some of those hubs. So they were just hidden? That's OK then.

            Janshares, love your ode to editbot!

            1. janshares profile image90
              jansharesposted 8 months ago in reply to this

              smile Thanks, Jean.

      3. DzyMsLizzy profile image92
        DzyMsLizzyposted 8 months ago in reply to this

        I agree, Marisa!  That they changed it to all the same symbol is annoying.

        Also, they had, for a while, fixed it so the green pencil went away after you looked over the hub and made any changes, or 'okayed' (by non-action) changes that were made.

        Now, the thing is hanging around again, and it's going to be hard to remember which ones I already looked at, and which not.  mad

        1. Marisa Wright profile image92
          Marisa Wrightposted 8 months ago in reply to this

          Not quite, because it's the red pencil you have to worry about, and that does go away.

          I have no idea why the green symbol doesn't disappear but it's not something I need to worry about.

          1. Jodah profile image86
            Jodahposted 8 months ago in reply to this

            It is actually a red exclamation mark, not a pencil.

  4. Sherry Hewins profile image96
    Sherry Hewinsposted 8 months ago

    Hey, I just noticed something. You used to be able to reject an EditBot change by unclicking a box.

    That isn't there anymore. It wasn't a problem for me, because I was OK with all of the edits, but there was a time in the past where the change that it made was incorrect.

    If that were to happen again, I guess the only way to fix it would be to go back and edit my hub, and put it back the way it was.

    1. psycheskinner profile image80
      psycheskinnerposted 8 months ago in reply to this

      Yes, I noticed this change in handling the edits. It is more awkward.

    2. Jodah profile image86
      Jodahposted 8 months ago in reply to this

      Editbot has made changes to a lot of my hubs this time (mostly in comments) and I have noticed that in at least three cases the changes are wrong and the sentences now don't make sense. "And" can't always be changed "to" as it likes to do. In one instance it missed a spelling mistake "ou" that should have been "you" and it doesn't appear you can reject the changes this time.

      1. Sherry Hewins profile image96
        Sherry Hewinsposted 8 months ago in reply to this

        Oh, that's not good! In the comments we have no way to put them back.

  5. janshares profile image90
    jansharesposted 8 months ago

    I decided that instead of holding on to my irritation about having to go through all my Editbots, I'll write an ode to it:

    Editbot, Editbot
    Where have you been?
    You visit our hubs like a thief in the night

    Editbot, Editbot
    You leave us red marks
    Correcting our words to make them right

    Editbot, Editbot
    You have OCD!
    Some changes you make seem awfully trite

    Editbot, Editbot
    You can be tough
    In any case, thanks . . . you keep our hubs tight

    1. janshares profile image90
      jansharesposted 8 months ago in reply to this

      Ugh! More bots today.

      1. Will Apse profile image89
        Will Apseposted 8 months ago in reply to this

        You complain that the bot has OCD and here you are talking to yourself, lol.

        1. janshares profile image90
          jansharesposted 8 months ago in reply to this

          Lol! I'm OCD, too, so I relate to Editbot.

      2. Tinsky profile image92
        Tinskyposted 8 months ago in reply to this

        @ janshares

        Love the poem.  Thanks for the chuckle.

        1. janshares profile image90
          jansharesposted 8 months ago in reply to this

          You're welcome, Tinsky. wink

          1. kenneth avery profile image77
            kenneth averyposted 8 months ago in reply to this

            @ janshares,
            Sweet friend, you need your own poetry show on PBS. I am serious. I would apply for that, but I know that PBS would take one look at
            me and my works and fall down laughing.

            1. janshares profile image90
              jansharesposted 8 months ago in reply to this

              big_smile big_smile big_smile You're hilarious, Kenneth!

              1. kenneth avery profile image77
                kenneth averyposted 8 months ago in reply to this

                smile @ Jan, if I do get my own poetry discussion show on PBS, will you be my co-host?

                1. janshares profile image90
                  jansharesposted 8 months ago in reply to this

                  I'd be honored. big_smile

                  1. kenneth avery profile image77
                    kenneth averyposted 8 months ago in reply to this

                    smile @ Jan, thanks for making my day. Don't be surprised in the future when a rep from PBS calls you and informs you that I have chosen you to partner with me on my show called "EditBot Relived, Confused" and other exciting poetry titles. We are going to be a hit.

  6. Stacie L profile image88
    Stacie Lposted 8 months ago

    I'm seeing lots of those green pencils also! wink

    1. Sherry Hewins profile image96
      Sherry Hewinsposted 8 months ago in reply to this

      It seems that soon I will have no hubs without the green pencil. I hope they will take it off after this is all over.

      1. janshares profile image90
        jansharesposted 8 months ago in reply to this

        I think they stay, Sherry.

        1. Sherry Hewins profile image96
          Sherry Hewinsposted 8 months ago in reply to this

          They have in the past, but I hope they change that. They serve no purpose if every hub has one.

  7. kbdressman profile image95
    kbdressmanposted 8 months ago

    Editbot was kind and fixed an "a" to "an" before a word that started with a vowel.  Unfortunately it deleted the space between an and the following word.  The change was made in the comments.  I'm not able to correct that, correct?

  8. watergeek profile image90
    watergeekposted 8 months ago

    I've checked only one of mine so far. The Editbot changed "posses" into "possess" which would be great, except that:
    1) It deleted the space between that and the next word.
    2) The corrected word should actually be "possesses" as in "water possesses" liquid properties, for example. Here's the link, in case anyone with connections views this.
    http://hubpages.com/edit/changes/?edit=84394

    How do I suggest further corrections?

    1. watergeek profile image90
      watergeekposted 8 months ago in reply to this

      Also, the word "fishtail" means one thing, whereas "fish tail" means something else. This is a change the Editbot should not have made.
      http://hubpages.com/edit/changes/?edit=139065

      1. watergeek profile image90
        watergeekposted 8 months ago in reply to this

        Here's another one: "once in awhile" should be just that, not "once in a while."

        1. watergeek profile image90
          watergeekposted 8 months ago in reply to this
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          watergeekposted 8 months ago in reply to this
        3. Marisa Wright profile image92
          Marisa Wrightposted 8 months ago in reply to this

          We can't see the changes to your Hubs, only you can.

          The editbot is like any spell checker, it can't read context (or if it can, it doesn't always do it properly).  Mistakes like that are to be expected.

          Overall, on my Hubs it corrects far, far more mistakes than it creates, so I'm not fretting over it. It's fixing comments that I had no way of fixing.   If it's making those mistakes on your Hub, just edit the Hub and change it back.

    2. watergeek profile image90
      watergeekposted 8 months ago in reply to this

      As I check each corrected hub I find more Editbot errors (though in general it's pretty good). "Backfield" as in baseball is different from "in a back field of the school" as in a garden planted there.
      http://hubpages.com/edit/changes/?edit=73104

  9. PegCole17 profile image91
    PegCole17posted 8 months ago

    I just reviewed a long-standing hub that finally moved to a niche site. For ninety-nine percent of the corrections made, I was thankful and agreed to the changes. There was one added bit of text that didn't seem correct to me. The editor added its to a sentence where "it is" was implied. Isn't it's a contraction for it is? Are these edits done manually?

    http://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/13357858.jpg

    1. theraggededge profile image96
      theraggededgeposted 8 months ago in reply to this

      In this case the edit wasn't necessary. "Whenever needed" is fine as far as I can tell (can't see the whole sentence). Not to mention that the edit is 'its' which is incorrect as that is the possessive form of third person (his, hers, its) and not the contraction of 'it is'.

      1. PegCole17 profile image91
        PegCole17posted 8 months ago in reply to this

        Thanks so much. That's what I thought, too.

        1. lobobrandon profile image83
          lobobrandonposted 8 months ago in reply to this

          Change it to it's or get rid of it altogether, as it seems fine from the snippet, can't see the entire sentence though. But it's probably good that you pointed it out. Hopefully someone from the team notices this. The edits I've seen were pretty good too, I really liked this round of the editbot.

 
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