Hi Lgali, I think it is a concern since there are some people with existing conditions (asthma, heart, organ transplant) that would have a hard time fighting the flu. their immune systems are already suppressed due to their medications. Does that help?
They have to make people aware of this flu, so that people can be prepared and fight against any unnecessary symptoms, it is a requirement of the public health agencies to keep everyone informed about the dangers of any outbreaks as well.
They obviously have their own agenda. To throw a wild guess about this agenda - they probably are getting a big financial cut because of the crisis, so they are trying to prove their usefulness and squeeze a few more million bucks or euros from member governments...
Gov'ts are responsible for the people and do their best to protect them...it includes having their Health department relay to the people that care must be taken. They provide help and education to protect the people as best they can. It is the choice in the end, if the person chooses to listen or not. It's not giving orders or anything.
Uhmm....I'm NA, Misha the gov't and NA's have issues ...but I still like to believe that they do their best to ...care for the people, but I know I shouldn't believe everything lol
LOL OK, this still seems like an irrational belief to me
At least you have some issues with gov't, and trust me, I am not NA, but I have quite a few issues with them
Well, the gov'ts do have $$ issues after that bail out stuff n got drum up more $$ , I guess
The biggest thing is...
...who cares about the economy when we're sick?
And now you know. But don't worry, they pull crap like this all the time.
Also, if they didn't make a big deal, and people started like really dying en mass ohhhh boy would there be lawsuits.
I mean, more lawsuits than people are already planning. We are talking about America, too, after all.
Don't people 'jump on a lawsuit wagon for $$' jus for the opportunity of gettin $$..isnt that sorta ... normal?
Normal for America, but considered insane by the rest of the World
Jus not enough $$ for the greed that's for sure, lol
I think Misha is right.
Now, they are talking abut flu parties. That is what I want. to get the flu now rather then when it comes back in the fall and winter and really packs a wallop. but of course, those in power say that's a bad idea. but they have to say that because of the lawsuits.
And, people get the flu every year and plenty die and while that is very sad, there is no sense in panic.
The 1918 flu epidemic that killed more people than all the world wars combined started as a mild wave of a new variant of influenza that hit in the spring. It came back in the fall evolved as a much more virulent form, the killer one.
I'm not saying this will happen, I'm just saying they're not just trying to panic people for no reason. There is a reason.
I hope nothing comes of it.
You are right on the money Pam. This is one to watch, and they know it. If this flu starts mutating....well....we just won't know till it happens, will we?
Exactly. And it's especially troublesome that it includes bits of bird flu, which has a death rate of over 80%. So it contains genetic pieces of a flu that we know is lethal, and anything can happen with viruses. Scientists know this, but sadly, many Americans now prefer to read bibles and argue about evolution, and people who aren't doing THAT don't trust government anymore--they really are sick of all the false alarms and big scare tactics, so now, when a real menace emerges, people probably won't listen at all. You can't blame them, but it's scary.
Not to mention lots of people are uninsured and won't seek help if they do get sick because they can't afford it. So that will help any new disease spread too.
Let's hope nothing comes of it all.
It's not like there's a lot any of us can do right this minute anyway.
Aaaa, fear mongers I was expecting you my dear ladies
Pam, how does your post answer the title question?
To tell you the truth though, I do expect some kind of pandemic going along with this crisis, but now (and in the summer) is quite a bit too early I think. Crisis should go way deeper, so the vast majority of people do overextend their systems to stress and serious malnutrition - this will set up a stage for pandemics to happen. Frankly I don't expect this earlier than the next year...
??? It answers the title question by saying I don't think it's just a 'scare', it's a real threat. In fact, what you say here kinda indicates we might accidentally agree on something again.
It isn't severe now but it has the potential to be really bad because of the bits and pieces the virus is made from and because viruses mutate. So it's not just a 'scare'. I mean, being scared is optional, really. If you think about it, there's not a lot we can do except eat well, exercise, build our immune systems like you say (which hardly anyone does).
I just think too that there are too many people crowded too close together doing foolish unhealthy things, and whenever animals get like that, nature sends disease to thin out the pack. So I think we're kind of at risk for some bad bug.
I think it is just a way of diverting people's attention.
I am with Misha in this one... sorry but I don't believe in good intentions
There a few with medical backgrounds...me included...that know the what where who n why of disease ...and why its such a concern...and denial of illness as *just a flu* isn't good for anybody..it should be taken with a grain of seriousness because ...as I and others have said many a times virus's mutate. They become something else and may become ....drug resistant then nothing can help you or us and if that becomes contagious...well..need I say more.
Misha, hey you cutey you. No, I just don't think it's something that should be poo-poo'd as something light and silly lol...n I am concerned bout it too. I get sick in spring or summer and it's horrible...worse than any other time for me...n those seasons are comin up n am sure that I am not the only one those *flu parties* are awful omg...they use pay for *pox* rubs long time ago,
IDK Dame, I hear about those parties on this thread for the first time, so I don't have any opinion on them yet.
But I do take quite a few issues with the current mainstream medicine, and especially its government or government dependent institutions, let alone mass media. Thinking for myself, watching my body and my close relatives, and making my own conclusions seem to serve me better so far
Yes, Misha. We can take our own precautions..very true... we do know what works for our own bodies..and admit to when we need more medical help.. that choice will always be ours.
Well, this was an attempt to push your buttons
Yes, we do agree that this sort of event will happen, yet we do disagree on timing, and I maintain that premature fear mongering will lead to more people ignoring real danger alerts, and thus worsen the situation when time comes...
Misha, it is so easy to push my buttons, how can this possibly still be fun for you?
Well, I admit I'm getting a little tired of the weekly catastrophe myself. What next? Plagues of locusts?
It's getting a little ridiculous. I mean, at some point I just throw up my hands and say fine, eat me then.
Its all down to stats, in the UK papers today it said 1 in 3 will get the swine flu. In Nov last year about 70 per cent of my work caught the flu so the ordinary flu was just as high. It also said it could kill 40 million people but 20 million die from the common flu every year. Fact is the 1st victim of swine flu a mexican boy is now fit and fully recovered. I feel it will be no more dangerous than any other flu, but if I die of the swine flu please feel free to call me a fool.
What's really scary is I've read that 99 out of 100 will of us will die of something before we hit 110. I mean Jesus, you just can't win...
Shit then I am in the 1 percent, thanks for cheering me up ( :
The alert is necessary any time a unknown strain appears. The response to the alert was excellent and it contained this outbreak. This was the easy one; the real challenge will be if it returns in the fall. As with most preventitive measures; if they work then people think it was a waste of time. The alert would have seemed more justified if more people got sick or died but I think I like it better this way.
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