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Freemasons - Who wouldn't want to be one.

  1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
    Ron Montgomeryposted 8 years ago

    From: http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Cults/masons.htm

    Freemasonry refers to the principles, institutions, and practices of the fraternal order of the Free and Accepted Masons. The largest worldwide society, Freemasonry is an organization of men based on the "fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man," using builders' tools as symbols to teach basic moral truths generally accepted by persons of good will. Their motto is "morality in which all men agree, that is, to be good men and true." It is religious in that a belief in a Supreme Being and in the immortality of the soul are the two prime requirements for membership, but it is nonsectarian in that no religious test is used.1 The purpose of Freemasonry is to enable men to meet in harmony, to promote friendship, and to be charitable. Its basic ideals are that all persons are the children of one God, that all persons are related to each other, and that the best way to worship God is to be of service to people.

    Sounds pretty sinister to me.

    1. usmanali81 profile image53
      usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      The following quote of the Master Mason Necdet Egeran clarifies the misconception or myth that Masonry is a charitable organization:

      “Some Masons even understand Masonry as only a kind of half religion, half charitable fraternal institution where they can establish pleasant social relationships and treat it accordingly. Others think that the purpose of Masonry is only to make good people better. Still others think that Masonry is a place to build character. In short, those who do not know how to read or write the sacred language of Masonry understand the meaning of its symbols and allegories in this way or some such similar way. But for a few Masons who are able to go deeply into it, Masonry and its goals are quite different. Masonry means a revealed knowledge, an initiation and a new beginning. It means leaving an old way of life and entering a new and still nobler life….Behind Masonry's elementary and basic symbolism there is a series of revelations that helps us to enter a higher inner life and to learn the secrets of our existence. So, it is in this inner life and the entrance into it that it is possible to reach the Enlightenment of Masonry. Only then does it become possible to learn the nature and conditions of progress and evolution.”

      Also today, when we look within Masonry itself, which is constantly pronouncing its ideas of "service to society" and "sacrifice for humanity," we do not find a very clean record. In many countries, Masonry has been the focus of relationships for ill-gotten material gain. In the P2 Masonic Lodge scandal of Italy in the 1980's, it came to light that the Masons maintained a close relationship with the mafia, and that the directors of the lodge were engaged in activities such as arms-smuggling, the drug trade or money laundering. It was also revealed that they arranged assaults on their rivals and on those who had betrayed them. In the "Great Eastern Lodge Scandal" of France in 1992, and in the "Clean Hands" operation in England, reported in the English press in 1995, the activities of Masonic lodges in the interests of illegal profit became clear. The Masons' idea of "humanist morality" is only a sham.

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      marzeeposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      OMG let me get my friend and let her tell you about the association of devil worship and free masonry. By the time your face turns  blue and your ears fall off, you will soooo regret this article. I shudder to think of it.

  2. kmackey32 profile image80
    kmackey32posted 8 years ago

    yea I don't wanna be one. lol

  3. Ron Montgomery profile image60
    Ron Montgomeryposted 8 years ago

    I might join solely based on the ignorance of people who rant against them.  If they piss off the wackos so bad, they must have something going for them.

  4. earnestshub profile image90
    earnestshubposted 8 years ago

    Freemasonry controls me everywhere I go. They're in the water, under the bed, on my roof and.... sorry thought I was usmanali there for a sec.
    Good guys doing good things for community.

    1. kmackey32 profile image80
      kmackey32posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      lol oh my

    2. Ron Montgomery profile image60
      Ron Montgomeryposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      And......they rarely have sex with camels.

      1. earnestshub profile image90
        earnestshubposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Maybe not, but you should not be so harsh, they could learn!

      2. usmanali81 profile image53
        usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

        because Freemasons use to share their wives in bikinis lol so no need for camels ... LOL

        1. earnestshub profile image90
          earnestshubposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          whereas with usmanali...

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    Ghost32posted 8 years ago

    Love it, Ron.

    In 1968, I left an underground mining job to go back to college for the umpteenth time and finally get a 4 year degree.  My father in law (1st marriage of 7) and I were very close.  He was a Freemason and helped me get a couple of college loans in which his connections played a definite part.

    One year or another, he asked if I'd like to join.  I loved that man (still do) but decided I couldn't join because they required a statement that you believed in some sort of Higher Power and at that time I was truly uncertain there was such a thing.  Lying about it was not an option.

    By the time I figured out there WAS some sort of organizing principle in our seemingly chaotic Universe (because for a moment I got away from my perennial worm's eye view), it was too late.  Word had gotten out, and I knew they were responsible for everything horrible in Life from the Cabal of the Day to the mole that had to be cut out of my wife's back.

    (Whew!) What a close escape!big_smile

    1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
      Ron Montgomeryposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      7 marriages?  Any double dipping?

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        Ghost32posted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Nah.  Still working on it, though.  We have a prison pen pal who will be joining us when her ten year sentence is done in late 2010.  My wife (#7) can't rock an' roll no mo', though, due to medical problems, so even with the best case scenario I'm guessing that doesn't really count as double dipping.big_smile

  6. Lisa HW profile image82
    Lisa HWposted 8 years ago

    The Freemasons messed up my Firefox, I think (AND they made my yogurt spoil).

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    isis_dreams2002posted 8 years ago

    not me would not like to be one

  8. usmanali81 profile image53
    usmanali81posted 8 years ago

    I find this creepy RUBISHIST every where.

    1. earnestshub profile image90
      earnestshubposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Thats strange isn't it, so do i.

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        sandra rinckposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        lol

      2. usmanali81 profile image53
        usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

        lol you forgot

        a RUBISHIST is person who believes in the theory of rubbish (evolution). So the pointer is towards you my dear friend smile

        1. earnestshub profile image90
          earnestshubposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Once again, I am overpowered by your great humor, usmanali, you couldn't get a pie in a pie fight smile That is pathetic!

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    sandra rinckposted 8 years ago

    ZOMG, Usman is quickly becoming my favorite Muslim. big_smile  Too funny.  Call me a Rubbishist, but I can't stop laughing. Too good, too good. lol

    1. usmanali81 profile image53
      usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      What can i do .. i am sorry for that .. the founding father Darwin himself was himself evident about his theory to be rubbish.

      1. earnestshub profile image90
        earnestshubposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Whereas usmanali has the only truth.
        When you read Darwin usmanali, you might like to read the theory of evolution. I know what you are saying about Darwin, and as usual you throw the baby out with the bathwater. Darwin got many things right.

        1. usmanali81 profile image53
          usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

          for example ???

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            sandra rinckposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            Things change with their environment. big_smile  Mental and physical... spiritually and religiously included. wink

            1. usmanali81 profile image53
              usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

              Yes, ofcourse, things change but not EVOLVE. Similarly, different revelations came from Allah for different people of different times one after another and the LAST AND FINAL WORD OF ALLAH IS QUR'AN for the whole of mankind untill judgement day.

              1. chucky12 profile image56
                chucky12posted 8 years ago in reply to this

                The Qur'an doesn't go on about freemasons, buddy ?

          2. earnestshub profile image90
            earnestshubposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            dissemination and structure of species, thousands of them.

            1. usmanali81 profile image53
              usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

              i think these are just two ... and by the way i was talking about evolution.

              1. chucky12 profile image56
                chucky12posted 8 years ago in reply to this

                Nice keep the answers short n sweet.

  10. usmanali81 profile image53
    usmanali81posted 8 years ago

    Long before having arrived at this part of my work, a crowd of difficulties will have occurred to the reader. Some of them are so grave that to this day I can never reflect on them without being staggered. 

    Charles Darwin, The Origin of Species, Chapter 6 – “Difficulties on Theory.”

  11. earnestshub profile image90
    earnestshubposted 8 years ago

    Evolution needs no support from Darwin. It is an established fact, backed by empirical evidence that is no longer disputable by logical reasoning people.

    1. usmanali81 profile image53
      usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      LOL lol lol

      come on man, Only MILLER was the evolutionists for the last 200 years who had some solid balls and tried to prove evolution in 1950s but FAILED BADLY at last. Now dont blame me for that ok.

  12. usmanali81 profile image53
    usmanali81posted 8 years ago

    Earnesthub,

    You talked about structure but Darwin had some serious allergy with STRUCTURES. Please look at the following.

    From a letter to Asa Gray, a close friend of Darwin and Professor of Biology at Harvard University:

    I am quite conscious that my speculations run quite beyond the bounds of true science. 

    You will do a wonderful amount of good in spreading the doctrine of Evolution, supporting it as you do by so many original observations. . . . Has the problem of the later stages of reduction of useless structures ever perplexed you? This problem has of late caused me much perplexity. 

    N.C. Gillespie, Charles Darwin and the Problem of Creation, University of Chicago, 1979, p. 2.

    Francis Darwin, The Life and Letters of Charles Darwin, Vol. II, New York: D. Appleton and Company, 1888, p. 358.

    1. earnestshub profile image90
      earnestshubposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      I have read that, and many other quotes could be used to discredit Darwin. The interesting thing about Darwin was his ability to see fault in himself. this and other such correspondence does not reflect badly on all the great things he accomplished.

      1. usmanali81 profile image53
        usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

        then why you people propagate these pagan faults and defects under the hollow slogans of art, love and humanity ???

        1. earnestshub profile image90
          earnestshubposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Quite simply, we don't.

          1. usmanali81 profile image53
            usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

            you do

            1. earnestshub profile image90
              earnestshubposted 8 years ago in reply to this

              No that is your warped religious perception based on the hate in your quoran.

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    Ghost32posted 8 years ago

    usmanali, interesting that you cut off your own head, doncha think?

    1. earnestshub profile image90
      earnestshubposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      I reckon he would cut anything off to be right!

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    Ghost32posted 8 years ago

    Yes, but then what would be left?

    1. earnestshub profile image90
      earnestshubposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      smile that got a guffaw!

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    Ghost32posted 8 years ago

    Awwww...(blush!)...I done good.

  16. Bard of Ely profile image86
    Bard of Elyposted 8 years ago

    Me - I have no interest in being one although I do technically belong to a Freemason's forum to which I was invited!

  17. Mark Knowles profile image61
    Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago

    Crap. Sign me up for RUBBISHISM any day.

    I mean. It makes a lot more sense than the anti-bikini thing. big_smile

    1. Colebabie profile image60
      Colebabieposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Ya'll know I'm already signed up smile

      1. Misha profile image73
        Mishaposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Where is your bikini then? wink

  18. Maddie Ruud profile image79
    Maddie Ruudposted 8 years ago

    I can't be a Freemason.  I'm female.

    1. Colebabie profile image60
      Colebabieposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      I'm signed up for "rubbish" you can sign up with me smile We'll hold meetings in bikinis

      1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
        Ron Montgomeryposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Count me in.

    2. usmanali81 profile image53
      usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      You can be a Kabbalist as is Madonna. Kabbalah is practiced and preached by almost all the secret societies and clubs.

  19. Ron Montgomery profile image60
    Ron Montgomeryposted 8 years ago

    http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjgwMjI3MTE1Ml5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNjYxNTM2._V1._SX320_SY400_.jpg

    It was good enough for this man.  That's all I need to know.

  20. Ron Montgomery profile image60
    Ron Montgomeryposted 8 years ago

    http://songseek.com/picturenet/photos/funny/media/bikini_ape.jpg

    1. Mark Knowles profile image61
      Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Hey - that is my cousin! I will thank you not to show such a RUBBISHISM picture ...............

      She is pretty hot though. wink

      1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
        Ron Montgomeryposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        What do you mean she?  Misha asked for a picture of ME in a bikini.  I was brave enough to comply and you insult me by implying that I have a less than masculine appearance?

        1. Misha profile image73
          Mishaposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          I was actually asking Cole. tongue

          I think you mixed me with Usman, this is him who wants boys in bikini lol

  21. Misha profile image73
    Mishaposted 8 years ago

    ROFLMAO lol

  22. Ron Montgomery profile image60
    Ron Montgomeryposted 8 years ago

    http://brianakira.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/saudi-bikini.jpg

    I really dig guys who know the truth about Freemasons and Rubbishism.

    I found this one for Usman

    1. Mark Knowles profile image61
      Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Well, this is the ultimate MUSLIMIST bikini:

      http://blog.luxuryproperty.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/saab-bikinis.jpg

      Pretty hot too huh? lol

      1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
        Ron Montgomeryposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Needs a veil.

        1. Mark Knowles profile image61
          Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Yeah - that would be even hotter, I must admit. Maybe Usmanali can oblige?

          1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
            Ron Montgomeryposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            He will have to avert his eyes while typing.

        2. earnestshub profile image90
          earnestshubposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Yes it's currently pornographic!

  23. Ron Montgomery profile image60
    Ron Montgomeryposted 8 years ago

    It will be snipped soon enough.

  24. earnestshub profile image90
    earnestshubposted 8 years ago

    Yes I see Maddona on the list.

    Rubbishists, evolutionists, atheists, capitalists, materialists, socialists, humanists, zionists, freemasons, nudists, bikini clad people, homosexuals, transsexuals, bisexuals, Australians, Americans, and Europeans, Albert Einstein, Oscar Wild, Charles Darwin, Mark Twain, Madonna (female freemason} All music stars, film stars, and I feel sure I have missed many. That is all I can remember from the last month or so.

    1. usmanali81 profile image53
      usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      LOL

      Here you are talking like a burst fart out of your mouth. lol lol

  25. earnestshub profile image90
    earnestshubposted 8 years ago

    wot! No comment on the Pornographic Muslim swimsuit? She is not wearing a cover over her face usmanali, quick! Ring your thought police!!

  26. onthewriteside profile image61
    onthewritesideposted 8 years ago

    Uh oh....I think I might see some nipple in that black one!  We better stone her before Allah mandates that her boobs get cut off!

    lol

  27. usmanali81 profile image53
    usmanali81posted 8 years ago

    It's a misconception that Women cannot become Freemason or can not join any secret society. Take the following as proof that women can become Freemason.

    Declaration of the - Grand Lodge of Freemasonry
    for Men and Women


    Annie Besant brought Freemasonry for Men and Women to England in 1902 after she had been initiated in Paris in a Lodge of 'Mixte Masonry' in an Order called Le Droit Humain. It seemed to Annie Besant, that Masonry had something to add to her spiritual progress. As a member of the Theosophical Society, she recognised that Freemasonry would attract men and women from all walks of life, who wished to work together to serve humanity through Freemasonry.

    1. onthewriteside profile image61
      onthewritesideposted 8 years ago in reply to this
      1. usmanali81 profile image53
        usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Oh really ... but the highest number of rapes take place in USA whose founding Fathers were Freemasons.

        1. onthewriteside profile image61
          onthewritesideposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Yea but who is committing those rapes?  Here's some interesting info straight from your own people Usmanali:

          Now what does the Quran/Islam tell us about muslim men raping kafir or non-muslim girls?:

          "Islam gives an open license to Muslim men to have sexual intercourse with women as long as these women are not Muslims and/or when these Muslim men are living in an infidel country."


          and in regards to paedophilia --This is what Imam Khomeini, the top shia authority says:

          “A Muslim man can have sexual pleasure with a little girl as young as a baby. But he should not penetrate her vaginally, however he can sodomize her”. (Tehriro vasyleh, fourth edition, Qom, Iran, 1990)


          And even more disgusting and representative of the muslim attitude towards Western women comes this:

          Some Muslim immigrants admit their bias quite openly. An Islamic Mufti in Copenhagen sparked a political outcry after publicly declaring that women who refuse to wear headscarves are "asking for rape." Apparently, he's not the only one thinking this way. “It is not as wrong raping a Swedish girl as raping an Arab girl,” says Hamid. “The Swedish girl gets a lot of help afterwards, and she had probably fucked before, anyway. But the Arab girl will get problems with her family. For her, being raped is a source of shame. It is important that she retains her virginity until she marries.” It was no coincidence that it was a Swedish girl that was gang raped in Rissne – this becomes obvious from the discussion with Ali, Hamid, Abdallah and Richard. All four have disparaging views on Swedish girls, and think this attitude is common among young men with immigrant background. “It is far too easy to get a Swedish whore…… girl, I mean;” says Hamid, and laughs over his own choice of words. “Many immigrant boys have Swedish girlfriends when they are teenagers. But when they get married, they get a proper woman from their own culture who has never been with a boy. That’s what I am going to do. I don’t have too much respect for Swedish girls. I guess you can say they get fucked to pieces.”


          You can read the full article here:

          http://theopinionator.typepad.com/my_we … rapes.html

          1. usmanali81 profile image53
            usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

            shame on you tony ... not barking aloud ... come on tony ... you can do it ... BARK ... BARK TONY BARK ... come on ... you can do it ... BARK

            1. usmanali81 profile image53
              usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

              By the way if muslims are raping you people then you must tolerate it as you are extremely tolerant nation, most of which born out of wedlock smile

              1. onthewriteside profile image61
                onthewritesideposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                Well if any of your ilk comes sniffing around my daughter's jeans, I'll just...well let's just say that you will be meeting your 70 virgins a little soon than maybe you expected...

                1. onthewriteside profile image61
                  onthewritesideposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                  Edit:  Of course you will be meeting your virgins without your penis, because it will be sitting in a formaldehyde-filled mason jar on my mantle.  The jar will simply be labeled:  "Penis Erectus Sickus Fuckus"...

                  1. usmanali81 profile image53
                    usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

                    You people have got lead on your dirty tonges ... i cant fight you in your filthiness.

              2. earnestshub profile image90
                earnestshubposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                You in to rape too I see!

            2. onthewriteside profile image61
              onthewritesideposted 8 years ago in reply to this

              That's all you have to say?  Hmmph...who'da thunk it...

              1. usmanali81 profile image53
                usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

                that's how we train our dogs smile and hopefully you got the same

  28. Pete Maida profile image60
    Pete Maidaposted 8 years ago

    I don't know that much about Free Masons but I knew two men that were in the organization.  One ran a chapter and both were the nicest guys you'd ever want to meet.  You've got to respect that.

    1. usmanali81 profile image53
      usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      I respect them as humans but i dont do the same for their evil plans and agendas.

      Freemasons follow KABBALAH which is mostly a book of majic. And as you know majic (especially the black one) is used to hurt people by making use of the filthy tricks, techniques and spells behind the cutains. The same game is being played by Freemasons for hundreds of years. For a comprehensive detail you can get enlightened on http://hubpages.com/hub/FREEMASONS-IN-A-NUTSHELL

      1. candice5 profile image60
        candice5posted 8 years ago in reply to this
  29. usmanali81 profile image53
    usmanali81posted 8 years ago

    Following is the reason which made me against Freemasons

    http://hubpages.com/hub/FREEMASONS-IN-A-NUTSHELL

    Read all the 4 episodes and then discuss.

    1. earnestshub profile image90
      earnestshubposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Everyone has read it usmanali. No proof just prejudice.You will never get an answer because you don't want one.
      You are without doubt the biggest and best argument against your own religion.

      1. usmanali81 profile image53
        usmanali81posted 8 years ago in reply to this

        May be every one has read it but for sure you did'nt even clicked it.

  30. earnestshub profile image90
    earnestshubposted 8 years ago

    You just get sicker and sicker you do realize your a psychopath right?

  31. Pamda Man profile image52
    Pamda Manposted 8 years ago

    For the last time, read this. Thanks. smile

    1. onthewriteside profile image61
      onthewritesideposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Sorry Panda....this guy just gets my goat!  And yes...I might just mean that literally... lol

    2. Eric Graudins profile image59
      Eric Graudinsposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Yawn.

  32. Pamda Man profile image52
    Pamda Manposted 8 years ago

    Example of forum sheep.

  33. Pamda Man profile image52
    Pamda Manposted 8 years ago

    More example of forum sheep. Foul language included.

    1. Mark Knowles profile image61
      Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      I guess that makes you, what? What is it that follows sheep around?

      lol

      You may want to be careful how many people you upset as you do not meet one of the requirements, and a couple of complaints will get you booted.  wink

      1. Pamda Man profile image52
        Pamda Manposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        I don't care. I'm just telling you what I see. wink If I get booted for saying the facts, then there's probably no point in existing here. You probably have noticed I did not respond to your other responses. Simply because you already have a problem with me. It would be pointless to have an argument.

        1. Mark Knowles profile image61
          Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          As you wish. You will not get booted for saying your opinion (facts big_smile ) - but you will get booted for not being 18 if you get complained about.

          Just a friendly warning as you seem to be enjoying yourself.

          I did not know pamdas followed sheep around though. lol

  34. Pamda Man profile image52
    Pamda Manposted 8 years ago

    And add a flamer. And you have a nice, warm and cozy fire burning on a thread.

  35. Pamda Man profile image52
    Pamda Manposted 8 years ago

    Yep. End of discussion between you and me here.

 
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