A question on keywords

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  1. kirstenblog profile image79
    kirstenblogposted 15 years ago

    I would like to ask.....
    In your experience would you prefer to have one or two keywords that are highly targeted? Or would you try to have those targeted ones plus as many less targeted keywords as you can think of?
    Is there any downside to having loads of keywords for a page?

    1. darkside profile image59
      darksideposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Yes. It's called "keyword stuffing".

    2. Lee Alexis profile image61
      Lee Alexisposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Assuming you're here to make money, then

      one highly targeted keyword = one hub.

    3. Neil Ashworth profile image41
      Neil Ashworthposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      The great keyword debate. Here's what I do (try to do) and it seems to work okay (there's a lot more research behind it but I haven't had the time to put an article together on this yet - but I will)

      Research first of course - use Google keyword tool to find niche keywords - longtail preferably that don't have a huge amount of competition. You can use various other tools such as Nichebot and Keyword or SEO Elite but for this system Google's own keyword tool works fine.

      Next decide on 2 or 3 (max 4) closely related keywords. Head to Google search and hit the search tab with them.

      See what the competition is that comes up against you. Now take the top 3 positions and do this;

      First install SEO plugin for firefox - its free and gives you loads of keyword data.

      1. Check page rank of your top 3 competition - anything over 4 forget it - don't compete - find another niche.
      2. Look to see if the keyword is in the URL - if it is you're less likely to rank above them in search - if not, use your best longtail keyword in the URL.
      3. Look at the age of your competition sites and number of backlinks - the older and more backlinks they have the less chance you have of moving ahead of them in search.

      As Darkside mentioned, keyword stuffing will get you some early traffic but will damage you over time - (been there, done that!)

      Use the keywords well - within your URL, page title and headings and in different orders with single and multiple versions as this helps G to work out what your site is about.

      Hope this helps!

      1. earnestshub profile image73
        earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        Nice helpful post there Neil! smile

      2. vancouver profile image39
        vancouverposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        excellent advice, you follow courtney tuttle or Griz?

        1. Neil Ashworth profile image41
          Neil Ashworthposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Both, as well as one or two others and I combine SEO with SMM (social media marketing - shifting traffic through keyword tweets to teach the search engines my content is relevent)

          Seems to work but still learning all the time.

          1. vancouver profile image39
            vancouverposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Do you find social media traffic click on you adsense?

            there is different opinions about this, mostly saying social traffic does not equate to add clicks,

            regards,
            JR

            1. Neil Ashworth profile image41
              Neil Ashworthposted 15 years agoin reply to this

              Social Traffic is debated and in truth little understood right now - if you're looking for sales of affiliate products directly from it you have to work the numbers - conversions are very low (0.01%-0.04% at best) but what the traffic does do if you get enough of it and if its timely (within the first 24 hours of launching new content) is that it stamps a social approval on your content in the eyes of Google - there are a few tricks you can work in to help with this but too much for an answer here - I'll put a few hubs together in the next few weeks when life quietens down a little.

              Basically, depending on the platform and your content, social media works - social traffic is the most powerful in the eyes of Google - it ranks your content faster and helps Google to recognise value faster - if linked with SEO your content will then have more chance of getting into the rankings faster for keywords. (take a look at what Griz has done with his Blogger blog - why do you think its first page of google for how to make money online? ) It's not just backlinks and keywords.

              One final thing with Twitter traffic - as for adsense - twitter users cant stop clicking on things so I guess they are a pretty decent audience just for that reason.

              1. kirstenblog profile image79
                kirstenblogposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                I gotta say I found this comment really helpful, you have a good way of explaining this stuff, a slow learner for this stuff like me could actually understand this almost mystical stuff. I am glad I signed up for your fan club, it is likely to be one of the best sources of help I have found! Thanks Man!

                1. Neil Ashworth profile image41
                  Neil Ashworthposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  You're welcome - back to the question of whether or not social media traffic is good for adsense income I'll let you into a secret (okay maybe not that big a deal but it made me smile) - I tested a social media traffic strategy for the last 30 days to generate traffic purely for adsense from one particular source - the outcome, on average over the 30 days - a CTR of 7% or there abouts - I'm not an adsense veteran but this seems pretty good to me - any thoughts from the adsense experts out there?

  2. kirstenblog profile image79
    kirstenblogposted 15 years ago

    Thanks for this guys! I wasnt sure if to many keywords would be a problem but it sounds like maybe it could hurt my traffic income long term. Now to figure out which keywords are working on each hub page and cut back the excess! Guess I have something new to learn now lol tongue
    The learning never stops lol!

  3. profile image0
    \Brenda Scullyposted 15 years ago

    there is a lot to this isn't there slowly slowly we learn and get great is that how it is ...... hope so

    1. kirstenblog profile image79
      kirstenblogposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I really do hope so, ever hear the saying 'fake it till you make it'? I feel like I am totally faking it and hoping I will some day make it!

      I went to have a look at one of my best performing pages that has gotten a lot of traffic (in comparison to my other pages lol) I am in analytics trying to find which key words were used to find it. I have no idea what I am looking at! Don't tell anyone! lol

      It looks like I have people who visited from keywords that are not mine! I think I recognize some of the keywords as the names of other pages (other users) listed when I look at related pages on my page. I assume those are clicks from one page to my page, one other page must match mine quite well as it is top of the list. Funny thing is there are keywords that have nothing to do with camping (the subject of my hub page) and I don't actually see an of the keywords I picked?


      Maybe I just need to write say 10,000 hub pages and get income from it that way as this is confusing the heck outa me!

  4. earnestshub profile image73
    earnestshubposted 15 years ago

    Thin pickins I reckon.

  5. deartfuldodger profile image61
    deartfuldodgerposted 14 years ago

    ^----- 7% is great! ..back when Made for adsense sites were more popular, a 8-10% clickthrough was considered very successful, much better and you are in danger of being flagged

    as for keyword stuffing, i wouldnt see the OP's original post as relating to stuffing, if you use a couple of related keywords, some long tails etc. throughout a lengthy piece you are fine.

    dont say "iphone tricks" every second sentence..but in an article about iphones, you could use the term phone very frequently in other combinations, if it works reading naturally, than you are probably under googles filters - the big g is pretty clever in that regards

    can you give an example tweet or your twitter account url - to see examples of what you meant by "keyword" tweets? I tend to try to use conversational questions to attract twitter clicks, perhaps there are other methods i should adopt also?

 
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