Wasting Time with HubPages

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  1. LVM profile image58
    LVMposted 15 years ago

    I published five (5) hubs this week and in every cases I checked them if they were being indexed by Google.  In every cases, they get indexed within the day.  But the next day, they're all gone from the index!

    Am I doing anything wrong?

    Am I just wasting my time?

    Please give me some advice before I go nuts and throw my computer away!

    1. jonmarsh profile image60
      jonmarshposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      That is pretty normal from what I have seen with my own accounts and what others have related.

      You get indexed quickly, sometimes very highly ranked, then after a day or two you are completely out of the index for several weeks.

      People have said it can take weeks to months to make it back in the index. All the hubs I have monitored are usually back in the index within 3-4 weeks.

      1. LVM profile image58
        LVMposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        If that's the case, then I don't have to throw my computer away after all.smile

        Thanks for the info.

    2. profile image0
      Nelle Hoxieposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Are you providing backlinks from other sources to your hubs. I do this as soon as they're published - usually about 5 of them.

      1. LVM profile image58
        LVMposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        Nope.  I don't do any backlinking at all.  That's a good idea, I'll experiment with it.

        Thanks.

  2. sunforged profile image81
    sunforgedposted 15 years ago

    Spend a week on keyword research and then redo ALL your titles.

    You really think your going to rank for "Paypal" !!!!!

    Pinoy and Paysite arent likely either

  3. LVM profile image58
    LVMposted 15 years ago

    sunforged, thanks for the reply.

    Do you mean those hubs will not be indexed unless I change the titles?

  4. sunforged profile image81
    sunforgedposted 15 years ago

    Your probably indexed, just dont appear in the first 100 pages, which is the same as not being indexed at all I imagine

    im looking into the ones i referenced as i am curious

  5. sunforged profile image81
    sunforgedposted 15 years ago

    weird! (this is my 1000th post, i should write more, forum less!)

    now using Paypall as your url was not a bad idea at all, ive had success with misspellings

    I searched google for

    "hubpages.com/hub/paypall"

    and the first 3 results were for my links! I then signed out of my google accounts, searched again, still me

    then tried, paypall

    no dice - just paypal.com sites - and only one adwords bidder! (paypal)

    I dont have me seotools on my netbook, so i didnt get any further

    also tried "lvm paypall hubpages" no dice either, guess no index

    try linking to your new hubs from a hub you do know is indexed


    yep, searched a chunk of your paypal text , no results..your going to have to build some backlinks it seems

    and just as a sidenote the "receiver" in paypal does not need to have a full account to claim money

  6. profile image0
    zampanoposted 15 years ago

    Or you just consider HP as your "Dock of the bay" smile

  7. LVM profile image58
    LVMposted 15 years ago

    sunforged, thanks a lot for taking all the trouble checking out my hub.

    I very well knew that my hubs were de-indexed.  As I said from the start I was monitoring them.  They used to show up when I searched "site:hubpages.com titleofmyhub".

    But a day later, they're all gone!

    1. sunforged profile image81
      sunforgedposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      lol, im so used to forum posters not being savvy, never expected you to use a site command.

      I know brand new hubs get a boost as they are treated as news, when they lose that freshness they average out to a more natural position.

      Linking from an already indexed page should fix that problem for you though.

      and I would really suggest pursuing a keyword string, it is almost impossible to rank for any one word branded name

      i bet it will be back up in a week or so, next time the bot crawls y

  8. sunforged profile image81
    sunforgedposted 15 years ago

    its not just hubpages, its any new post from a high ranked site, its treated as news and given higher ranking for a short period

    then the site is placed as it would normally

    Ive read the stories about being lost from the engines for weeks too, but my stats have never showed this to be true for my hubs, Im usually getting google hits on day two

    I wonder what the difference is

  9. Eaglekiwi profile image74
    Eaglekiwiposted 15 years ago

    Well I definatley spend too much time in the forums ,but its a working progress lol

    Sunforged, can you tell me how I can check where or if Im even indexed by Google ? I dont know how to do that (sounds cool)

    I did once just put Eaglekiwi into Google search engine ,but it doesnt really give me any idea on specific hubs.

    Thanks alot.

    1. sunforged profile image81
      sunforgedposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Just to check if your indexed at all, you can use a variation of the query that LVM used

      "I very well knew that my hubs were de-indexed.  As I said from the start I was monitoring them.  They used to show up when I searched

      "site:hubpages.com titleofmyhub"

      I would use

      "titleofmyhub site:hubpages.com"

      in your case

      "How To Carve A Pumpkin For Halloween site:hubpages.com "

      natural search such as "keyword hubpages profilename" w/o quotes should do the same thing-and just copying a few lines of your hub is the easiest way at all

      But if your seeing no google traffic in your stats you can be reasonable sure your not indexed.


      The final solution:(and its been said a couple of times)

      1) Go after long tail keywords,

      Hubpages.com/paypall (hard, if not impossible to rank for)


      (better options)
      hubpages.com/the-truth-about-paypal
      hubpages.com/is-paypal-a-scam
      hubpages.com/history-of-paypal
      hubpages.com/how-to-use-paypal


      2) Develop a couple of dofollow backlinks as soon as possible
      even if its just a couple of little free blogs that you make just for that purpose


      Lexicon of Im and seo terms

      http://hubpages.com/hub/Post-Hub-Pages- … ng-Lexicon




      Google has many detailed search queries that can really help speed up your research time

      http://www.google.com/support/websearch … wer=136861

      1. Eaglekiwi profile image74
        Eaglekiwiposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        Ok thanks for answering -lots to do ,I guess it gets easier the more I do it smile thankyou!

  10. Gemsong profile image62
    Gemsongposted 15 years ago

    I googled Gemsong once.

    wish I could have gotten that domain name. smile

  11. UltimateGamer profile image59
    UltimateGamerposted 15 years ago

    Your sites are indexed but they are being lost in the millions of other sites being indexed for those same keywords. In order to be ranked for most of your hubs you would need thousands of backlinks which is near impossible. Look for more targeted keywords to go for and look into long tail vs short tail keywords as well.

  12. wrenfrost56 profile image54
    wrenfrost56posted 15 years ago

    Your hubs are indexed on google, just not front pages.hmm I agree with the others, seo and backlinking would definately help.

    1. Eaglekiwi profile image74
      Eaglekiwiposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Cool wren wink

  13. yoshi97 profile image59
    yoshi97posted 15 years ago

    Another good way to keep indexed is to include a news feed in each hub ... this keeps fresh content pouring into your hub with no further effort needed. smile

    1. nicomp profile image61
      nicompposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Don't pick a news feed that is not relevant to your hub. A feed for the sake of a feed won't help.

      Most of the feeds I pick never seem to change anyway. Must be my bad luck.

    2. kirstenblog profile image77
      kirstenblogposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Yoshi97 this grabbed my attention! How do you add news feeds to your hub pages? Maybe a hubpage in that question! big_smile

      I will be fanning you in a sec so that I am sure to know when if you write a hub on news feeds and how to use them on your pages!

  14. LVM profile image58
    LVMposted 15 years ago

    sunforged, thanks for the detailed advice, and for including links I could check out.

    To all others, thank you too for all the advice. I sure will try them out.

  15. LVM profile image58
    LVMposted 15 years ago

    I'm using news feeds on all my hubs.

  16. yoshi97 profile image59
    yoshi97posted 15 years ago

    There is a news capsule that you can use when editing your hub page. As said before ... the news needs to be related to your hub. smile

 
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