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    ryankettposted 13 years ago

    Blah, Blah, Blah..... nothing to see here, just Ryan being a grumpy Mo-Fo.

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      A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You go Boi!

    2. darkside profile image69
      darksideposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I'm not sure if it's been a month. The date says 10/9/2009 which to you and I means 10th September 2009.

      But if DocStoc is an American company or hosted in America then it's the 9th of October which is just Friday and with these stats:

      ...that's less than 2 visits per page. One of which might be the user.

      HubPages, as we know, has plenty of tools in place. But it's greatest asset is its members. Thranax did a great job of finding it and no doubt the community backlash against this 'shiftm' from our site to docstoc will leave him reeling.

      1. earnestshub profile image83
        earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Well stated Darkside. My thanks to Thranax for pointing this out. smile

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        ryankettposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Hi, I just reread the thread, and somebody stated that they had been stripped over a one month period. I guess that I got my wires crossed, and that that person was wrong. Apologies to all for this error, as this now gives me no reason for any concern whatsoever about Hubpages plagiarism detection procedures.

      3. thranax profile image75
        thranaxposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Darkside..I took the time to make a list. Heres the whole list over there:

        Total List of Shifts:

        Docs: 17984
        Views: 7878

        Docs: 19756
        Views: 30136

        Docs: 20023
        Views: 2827

        Docs: 22329
        Views: 37156

        Docs: 19083
        Views: 1452

        Docs: 19914
        Views: 1745

        Docs: 24764
        Views: 2491

        Docs: 9982
        Views: 1805

        Docs: 28647
        Views: 4619

        Docs: 18053
        Views: 3182

        Docs: 19903
        Views: 3608

        Docs: 19844
        Views: 6265

        Docs: 18236
        Views: 8752

        Docs: 19815
        Views: 8087

        Docs: 21427
        Views: 27059

        Docs: 28421
        Views: 26548


      4. lrohner profile image69
        lrohnerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Dear Darkside,

        This guy has been active with HP since August, and he/she has tolen over 400,000 articles from HP and other places. Methinks you're only looking at one of his screen names.

        1. darkside profile image69
          darksideposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I was only checking ShiftM, the first one thranax mentioned in the other thread.

          I wonder how well Copyscape searches for information contained within PDF's?

          And with those stats, over a four month period it makes them look even for it.

          I've actually been a member of DocStoc for over a year. Though I signed up but never published anything. I had something on the drawing board, but never finished it off.

  2. Maddie Ruud profile image74
    Maddie Ruudposted 13 years ago

    Ryan, we do protect users to the best of our ability.  We have copy-detecting programs in place, but none of us sit in front of the computer staring at them all weekend.

    I am doing everything to resolve this situation swiftly.  I understand that you are upset.  It is an upsetting circumstance, for all involved.

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      ryankettposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Ok well thanks for getting on the case Maddie, and hopefully it will be resolved soon. Apologies if my posts seem a little dramatic, I know that you have double the reason to be worried.

  3. Eric Graudins profile image60
    Eric Graudinsposted 13 years ago

    Dear RyanKett,

    I've just looked at the thread that Maddie has closed, and am curious:

    Did you go to a special course to learn how to be so arrogant and abusive, or does it just come naturally?

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      ryankettposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      My concerns came as a result of a misinterpretation and no comments were aimed at a speoific individual. I consider myself to have quite a thorough grasp of the meaning of the word 'abuse' and personally don't think that any of my comments fall into the generally accepted definition of that term. As for arrogance, yes this comes naturally, but I wouldn't be the only person on this site to display overbearing superiority or self-importance would I?

  4. thranax profile image75
    thranaxposted 13 years ago

    Forgot Two:

    Docs: 19458
    Views: 11733

    Docs: 45201
    Views: 58195


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    ryankettposted 13 years ago

    So have the hubs been stripped since August or not?

    Because if they have then I have every damn right to make the comments that I have, I really hope that it has just been a couple of days....

    If the hubs have been stripped since August then this IS an issue that I SHOULD be seriously concerned about.

    This is the whole issue. If it has been happening for two days, then indeed.... I should just let the hubpages team enjoy their weekend and stop it with my moaning. But 3 months?

    So what is it, 2 days or 3 months?

  6. yoshi97 profile image60
    yoshi97posted 13 years ago

    Also, copyscape doesn't catch everything ... I put a few hubs through and didn't find them. This crackerjack just started recently, so his stuff is just now being indexed by Google ... that's why none of us knew about it before.

    Rest assured, the 350th largest site on the internet will kick some booty and make this poor poser wish he had messed with Squidoo instead. smile

    To add to the frustration, I think I have found proof that it was a person with a membership here. I know this, as they have one of my hubs listed as one of their favorites, so they have been scanning through our hubs looking for certain particular ones. In my case, they nabbed my hubbing 101 hubs and my dog med hubs. grrr!!!

    Still, we all need to remember this is far more serious (dollars and cents wise) to the Hubpages staff and we can be certain their reaction will be swift and appropriate. I just wish they could be whiling their time away on ideas for site enhancements, instead of chasing down bozos like this guy.

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      ryankettposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I know that copyscape doesnt catch everything, but 400000 pages of content over a 3 month period?

    2. Jane@CM profile image59
      Jane@CMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      So I've read several posts that people know who this member is...out with their name!

      1. yoshi97 profile image60
        yoshi97posted 13 years agoin reply to this

        shiftm is all I know ...

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        ryankettposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Off with their heads!!

  7. darkside profile image69
    darksideposted 13 years ago

    They must be using an automated program that harvests the content from HubPages, converts to PDF and uploads to DocStoc.

    It is going by the 'American' dating system, as I've checked out a featured 'docstocker' and his most recent is 10/11/2009.

    If they had been up for a month then the traffic would have been incredibly woeful. Still though, the stats aren't good for even a few days. So I doubt any short term harm let alone long term harm is done.

    HP HQ should forward on your lists there thranax.

    And maybe they should think about putting limits on the amount of documents that can be uploaded per hour or within a rolling 24 hour window, because that's a ridiculous amount. The only people who could be capable of that are content kleptomaniacs with automated programs.

    I'd love to see the look on the face of this prolific plagiarizer when his accounts are locked and 350,000+ stolen pdf's have been deleted.

    1. yoshi97 profile image60
      yoshi97posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      haha, I can see it now ...  They killed my account ... those bastiches!!! How dare they, after I worked so hard to download all of those docs!

      Heck, if he liked our work so much, he coulda got a Digg account and dug each of our articles ... much faster, we (the authors) get the deserving credit, and he gets a fanbase for discovering our articles. Now *that* I could withstand. smile

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      ryankettposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Is docstocker a revenue share site then? In the hubpages mould, or does it follow a Squidoo like system?

      If he is using his adsense code, then we should really be looking to get him banned from adsense to prevent him from copying again? Because there is nothing stopping him from uploading to his own site I guess....

  8. AEvans profile image75
    AEvansposted 13 years ago

    I am upset just like many but not over-stressed being here over 2 years I know Hubpages has it under control and they are definitely working on it. Let them handle it and as always they will continually update us with information which is something squidoo would not do. smile

    I did my part so I am certain they are doing there part and honestly do not be surprised if someone is not at HP or on the computer right now trying to take care of this issue. smile

  9. thranax profile image75
    thranaxposted 13 years ago

    Darkside, they have there own uploader.

    " Docstoc Sync is a downloadable application that runs on your PC or Mac. You can select which folders you wish to sync with Docstoc. The application will check these folders for changes and automatically sync any new or updated documents with Docstoc MyDocs. By default, Docstoc Sync will upload and sync all your documents privately on Docstoc, so no one else can view these documents without your permission. In addition Docstoc Sync installs a folder on your desktop called "Docstoc Public Documents", where you can easily upload any document to Docstoc publicly.


  10. AEvans profile image75
    AEvansposted 13 years ago

    Who is the person? Everyone keeps talking about it who are they? smile

    1. thranax profile image75
      thranaxposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      The website and the list of 18 accounts I put on here...


      1. AEvans profile image75
        AEvansposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        (((Big Hugs))) and thanks bunches! smile

      2. Jane@CM profile image59
        Jane@CMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        I understand the 18 accounts, but people are talking about it as they know which Hubber it is...that is what I was getting at.

        1. yoshi97 profile image60
          yoshi97posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          For the record, we don't know who it is (at least, I don't know). Our only possible proof it is a fellow hubber is a favorites list I found while checking for my hubs which could also be innocent (though the name of one of the hubs stolen was on that list).

          It's highly probable that it's someone who signed up here but never participated, but that can't be certain. I can't see it as being someone who writes hubs as they would understand the importance of protecting their own work.

          Also, this person worked in specific areas. I checked the hubs of mine that were ripped off, and they all fell into the area of dog meds and hubpages support (why on Earth would they want those?).

          As such, they were preying on certain categories and didn't show a lot of wisdom with their choices.

  11. Uninvited Writer profile image77
    Uninvited Writerposted 13 years ago with THEIR heads. It's not HubPages fault and getting mad at them will do nothing at all. How do you expect them to stop such things from happening?

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      ryankettposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      UW, like I have explained (and apologised for), I thought that this had been going on for a period of months. If this had been the case, then I would have expected this to have been picked up by Hubpages.

      1. thranax profile image75
        thranaxposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Nope, its been a few days for the accounts. Like I said, the 1st hub i searched was only cached by google for 2 hours.


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