Blah, Blah, Blah..... nothing to see here, just Ryan being a grumpy Mo-Fo.
I'm not sure if it's been a month. The date says 10/9/2009 which to you and I means 10th September 2009.
But if DocStoc is an American company or hosted in America then it's the 9th of October which is just Friday and with these stats:
...that's less than 2 visits per page. One of which might be the user.
HubPages, as we know, has plenty of tools in place. But it's greatest asset is its members. Thranax did a great job of finding it and no doubt the community backlash against this 'shiftm' from our site to docstoc will leave him reeling.
Well stated Darkside. My thanks to Thranax for pointing this out.
Hi, I just reread the thread, and somebody stated that they had been stripped over a one month period. I guess that I got my wires crossed, and that that person was wrong. Apologies to all for this error, as this now gives me no reason for any concern whatsoever about Hubpages plagiarism detection procedures.
Darkside..I took the time to make a list. Heres the whole list over there:
Total List of Shifts:
This guy has been active with HP since August, and he/she has tolen over 400,000 articles from HP and other places. Methinks you're only looking at one of his screen names.
I was only checking ShiftM, the first one thranax mentioned in the other thread.
I wonder how well Copyscape searches for information contained within PDF's?
And with those stats, over a four month period it makes them look even for it.
I've actually been a member of DocStoc for over a year. Though I signed up but never published anything. I had something on the drawing board, but never finished it off.
Ryan, we do protect users to the best of our ability. We have copy-detecting programs in place, but none of us sit in front of the computer staring at them all weekend.
I am doing everything to resolve this situation swiftly. I understand that you are upset. It is an upsetting circumstance, for all involved.
I've just looked at the thread that Maddie has closed, and am curious:
Did you go to a special course to learn how to be so arrogant and abusive, or does it just come naturally?
My concerns came as a result of a misinterpretation and no comments were aimed at a speoific individual. I consider myself to have quite a thorough grasp of the meaning of the word 'abuse' and personally don't think that any of my comments fall into the generally accepted definition of that term. As for arrogance, yes this comes naturally, but I wouldn't be the only person on this site to display overbearing superiority or self-importance would I?
So have the hubs been stripped since August or not?
Because if they have then I have every damn right to make the comments that I have, I really hope that it has just been a couple of days....
If the hubs have been stripped since August then this IS an issue that I SHOULD be seriously concerned about.
This is the whole issue. If it has been happening for two days, then indeed.... I should just let the hubpages team enjoy their weekend and stop it with my moaning. But 3 months?
So what is it, 2 days or 3 months?
Also, copyscape doesn't catch everything ... I put a few hubs through and didn't find them. This crackerjack just started recently, so his stuff is just now being indexed by Google ... that's why none of us knew about it before.
Rest assured, the 350th largest site on the internet will kick some booty and make this poor poser wish he had messed with Squidoo instead.
To add to the frustration, I think I have found proof that it was a person with a membership here. I know this, as they have one of my hubs listed as one of their favorites, so they have been scanning through our hubs looking for certain particular ones. In my case, they nabbed my hubbing 101 hubs and my dog med hubs. grrr!!!
Still, we all need to remember this is far more serious (dollars and cents wise) to the Hubpages staff and we can be certain their reaction will be swift and appropriate. I just wish they could be whiling their time away on ideas for site enhancements, instead of chasing down bozos like this guy.
I know that copyscape doesnt catch everything, but 400000 pages of content over a 3 month period?
So I've read several posts that people know who this member is...out with their name!
They must be using an automated program that harvests the content from HubPages, converts to PDF and uploads to DocStoc.
It is going by the 'American' dating system, as I've checked out a featured 'docstocker' http://www.docstoc.com/profile/c4ball and his most recent is 10/11/2009.
If they had been up for a month then the traffic would have been incredibly woeful. Still though, the stats aren't good for even a few days. So I doubt any short term harm let alone long term harm is done.
HP HQ should forward on your lists there thranax.
And maybe they should think about putting limits on the amount of documents that can be uploaded per hour or within a rolling 24 hour window, because that's a ridiculous amount. The only people who could be capable of that are content kleptomaniacs with automated programs.
I'd love to see the look on the face of this prolific plagiarizer when his accounts are locked and 350,000+ stolen pdf's have been deleted.
haha, I can see it now ... They killed my account ... those bastiches!!! How dare they, after I worked so hard to download all of those docs!
Heck, if he liked our work so much, he coulda got a Digg account and dug each of our articles ... much faster, we (the authors) get the deserving credit, and he gets a fanbase for discovering our articles. Now *that* I could withstand.
Is docstocker a revenue share site then? In the hubpages mould, or does it follow a Squidoo like system?
If he is using his adsense code, then we should really be looking to get him banned from adsense to prevent him from copying again? Because there is nothing stopping him from uploading to his own site I guess....
I am upset just like many but not over-stressed being here over 2 years I know Hubpages has it under control and they are definitely working on it. Let them handle it and as always they will continually update us with information which is something squidoo would not do.
I did my part so I am certain they are doing there part and honestly do not be surprised if someone is not at HP or on the computer right now trying to take care of this issue.
Darkside, they have there own uploader.
" Docstoc Sync is a downloadable application that runs on your PC or Mac. You can select which folders you wish to sync with Docstoc. The application will check these folders for changes and automatically sync any new or updated documents with Docstoc MyDocs. By default, Docstoc Sync will upload and sync all your documents privately on Docstoc, so no one else can view these documents without your permission. In addition Docstoc Sync installs a folder on your desktop called "Docstoc Public Documents", where you can easily upload any document to Docstoc publicly.
The website and the list of 18 accounts I put on here...
I understand the 18 accounts, but people are talking about it as they know which Hubber it is...that is what I was getting at.
For the record, we don't know who it is (at least, I don't know). Our only possible proof it is a fellow hubber is a favorites list I found while checking for my hubs which could also be innocent (though the name of one of the hubs stolen was on that list).
It's highly probable that it's someone who signed up here but never participated, but that can't be certain. I can't see it as being someone who writes hubs as they would understand the importance of protecting their own work.
Also, this person worked in specific areas. I checked the hubs of mine that were ripped off, and they all fell into the area of dog meds and hubpages support (why on Earth would they want those?).
As such, they were preying on certain categories and didn't show a lot of wisdom with their choices.
Yes...off with THEIR heads. It's not HubPages fault and getting mad at them will do nothing at all. How do you expect them to stop such things from happening?
UW, like I have explained (and apologised for), I thought that this had been going on for a period of months. If this had been the case, then I would have expected this to have been picked up by Hubpages.
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