I thought I was smart

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   cosetteposted 15 years ago

   oops "SMART" ---typo
   
   
   anyway, this weekend i started wondering a few things after reading some of the forum posts. actually, i started wondering when i created my second HubPages account, SquigglesMcBeeBee. Google sent me an email asking me if i wanted to sign up for Adsense. i was all 'um i thought i already WAS', so i ignored it because in my account settings it said my Google stuff was "active".
   
   last week (or the week before, i forget) i got a card from Google containing a PIN and telling me i had money and to access it i needed this PIN they sent me. so i was feeling pretty good.
   
   yesterday i got another email from Google telling me my Adsense was still not activated and would i like to activate it. so i came to a horrible realization that all of those Google ads on all of those hubs i have written...i haven't been earning any money from them...just the Amazon ones.
   
   i spent an hour searching on Google and then on HubPages looking for information about this stuff and my head is spinning. it seems...........overwhelming.
   
   i have to create a Google "campaign" and determine CPC (cost per click)...i finally see what people are talking about when they talk about having niche markets...i can see why that is one way to go. my hubs are all over the map. NOT good...my problem has always been dealing with the administrative side of things...it takes the wind out of my sails actually.
   
   i feel as if i have been kicked in the solar plexus.
   
   i'm not a whiner but wow i feel completely pummeled by this. i would like to hear from experienced hubbers about how they finally "got it". if i can't resolve this dilemma i may just throw in the towel Hubpages-wise...i have no words to express how beaten-down i feel at the moment.
   
   IS it hard and complicated to set up, or am i overcomplicating it?
   
   i don't like to ask for advice but i'm vulnerable now and really need it. i HATE admitting vulnerability and whatnot but whatever.
   
   thank you.

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      Jane@CMposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Cosette, the email should have stated that you need to verify hubpages and to click on the link to verify.  The email would have stated something like:
      Google AdSense Access Verification for www dot hubpages dot com,
      
      In the body of the email it would look like this:
      
      In order to use AdSense through www dot hubpages dot com, you'll need to grant www dot hubpages dot com access to the ad code and reports in your AdSense account. To do so, please follow this link:
      
      I did not include the link, because it is mine.  I'm glad I kept this email!

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      relacheposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      You don't have to do ANY of that for your Hubs.  You just need to verify and fully activate your account.  And then you'll start earning.

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   rumblingposted 15 years ago

   I think Jane has answered your question , Better late than never I guess

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   cosetteposted 15 years ago

   i don't remember filling out a form, so i went back and got my old email from google and it directed me to the verification link. i remember doing that part. this time i filled out the form with my current gmail address that i use for HubPages and it returned this message:
   
   A user with the email you specified already exists
   Please select a different Google Account login to access this account.
   
   so that means i am already up and running?
   
   then i really DID overcomplicate it?
   
   i have a tendency to do that. i get into trouble when i start reading stuff without fully understanding it...some posts said you have to pay to participate in Adsense, but i never paid anything to do this...so it's really FREE, right?
   
   it WAS just easy to do, and that's when i started worrying. i guess i thought it should be more complicated.
   
   ok this tells me two things: i need to focus on keywords and i need to target one or two TYPES of articles, instead of bouncing around all over the place.
   
   thanks you guys. i was really worried!
   xox

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      EYEAM4ANARCHYposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      You don't really need to worry so much about that with HP. All that niche marketing nonsense applies more to people with stand alone websites and blogs.

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      Marisa Wrightposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I'm not quite following. 
      
      When you first set up Adsense, you don't get a PIN straightaway.  They wait until you've been up and running and are nearly ready for payout. Then they send a PIN to your snail mail address.  You have to enter the PIN in your Adsense account to confirm you're really you, so you can get paid.
      
      That has nothing to do with your second HubPages ID.  For that, you have to use your existing Adsense account, because you can't have two Adsense accounts.

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         cosetteposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         yes. coincidentally, my PIN arrived in snailmail at the same time i opened that squiggles account, many weeks after i came to HubPages. since it arrived with the birth of squiggles, i thought they were connected. and i hate to state earnings but it was just shy of ten dollars...and i entered the PIN in my Adsense account but there is no payout yet to my savings acocunt because i need to verify a deposit from them but they haven't deposited anything in there yet.
         
         well i'm glad to know that i can have more than one HubPages account but only one Adsense account for both of them. i was never sure how that worked. sorry guys...i'm trying to get this...sometimes i need to ask and have things explained to me because i misinterpret what i read. thank you so much for your input i really appreciate it!

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   Jane@CMposted 15 years ago

   Yes, I'm pretty sure you are good to go!

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   Len Cannonposted 15 years ago

   Does your google account show you as having made money?  You'd just need to put in the PIN they sent you.

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   cosetteposted 15 years ago

   omgsh
   
   
   
   thank yoOo...
   
   (insert headbanging bunny here)
   
   
   
   
   yes. that's why i was all excited a couple of weeks ago. but after i started analyzing it i thought maybe those were Amazon earnings.
   
   i hate myself sometimes. don't think me an idiot...i already think of myself that way enough for both of us

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   Mishaposted 15 years ago

   I think you overcomplicate. They don;t send a PIN until you make something. Don't remember the exact number, but it is definitely more than 0

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      darksideposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      $10. That's what it was for me, which was a while ago. And it hasn't changed because that's also what it was for my wife who activated hers a few months ago.

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         frogdroppingposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Eh? $10. I thought it was $100? That's what I've got to earn per month.
         
         Is Google singling me out? Maybe they don't do frogs.

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            Marisa Wrightposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            You don't get paid until you reach the $100 threshold, but they send out your PIN when you hit $10.

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            darksideposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            $10 and then they send out the account activation PIN.
            
            A minimum of $100 for a payout.
            
            Sorry, I should have quoted Cosette's bit about the "card from Google containing a PIN" bit. Conversations tend to stray quickly.

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   cosetteposted 15 years ago

   i do, you're absolutely right.
   
   i think i was reading google adsense articles for businesses or something and thought that applied to Hubpages. (embarrassed smiley goes here)

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   Lisa HWposted 15 years ago

   Each person gets his own Ad Sense code, and that it what needs to go on every site where you want ads and earnings.  If I recall correctly, the pin number was sent after I set up my preferences about how to get paid (mail or direct deposit). 
   
   Usually, your Ad Sense account will show anything you need to do.  Taking a scan (look) at your whole personal information section on your Google account and then taking a scan of payment-related sections in your account will usually show any "notices" Google posts for  you.  Also, double-check to make sure your Ad Sense code is on any HubPages accounts you have.
   
   As far as a niche goes, I don't really have one (although I suppose, based on what I write on here and elsewhere, it looks like Google has "established me" as someone who writes "general writing for grown-ups, with focus (maybe) on parenting, emotions, families, social issues and day-to-day matters".  When you list your channels with Google (which is optional but which helps you track them) you get to have some say in "establishing" what your writing is about.  That helps their system "know" your niche.  Sometimes niches happen by accident and are based on what it turns out you have written.  If, like me, you have "all-purpose-seeming" material it probably will help you if you define your niche yourself and include it with your channels on Ad Sense.
   
   Some niches attract better-paying ads than others.  I've found that material "established" (and in fact "in reality") being aimed at grown-ups does attract a certain type of ads.  Of course, each individual piece of writing also attracts its own type of ads.  (When I say "grown-ups" I mean "real" writing - not "here's a bunch of music files, and here's a bunch of pictures of us at the beach, and here's my latest dilemmas".)

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    zadrobiposted 15 years ago

    You're silly, cosette

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    cosetteposted 15 years ago

    thanks Lisa... i need to study on a few things, no doubt. i needed direction and this all helps enormously.
    
    Zadrobi. that i am...

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    sunforgedposted 15 years ago

    Im confused. I hope these answers solved your problems.
    
    I know I received my adsense PIN at around 15.00 earnings, way before pay out time.
    
    This PIN is merely to confirm mailing address matches account info, it did not mean "yeah, we are going to pay you"...did they wait until you reached 100.00 to send you a PIN?
    
    Im guessing no,and although I would be excited for you, it would be out of the ordinary if  you have reached pay out in 3 months.
    
    adSENSE does not cost money, never has never will - you probably read about adWORDS (the opposite side of the google advertising coin)
    
    You cant have two adsense accounts if you use the same name and SS# (or whatever is used internationally, if you are)..you cant mistakingly do that, it will not allow it.
    
    As long as adsense is showing impressions and clicks than everything is ok!
    
    You can make sure that your second account is configured ok by first making sure you have entered a pub-id into the affilaite settings- you can also roughly judge that everything has always been ok by adding the total views of both hub accounts and checking to see that the number shown in adsense is approx 60% of that.
    
    How are you confusing Amazon and adsense, have you ever checked your amazon earnings?
    
    https://affiliate-program.amazon.com/
    
    
    How are your adsense account and a need to target a niche related? im very curious about that.
    
    You dont have to have  a niche, its just a smart marketing technique
    
    
    all in all,it really sounds like everything is ok with your account

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       cosetteposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       i am going to print this out and examine my account. i don't look at those metrics and things but i see i have to. this all started when i got an email from Google after i signed up for Adwords, thinking that my adsense was somehow not activated, and they sent me this email:
       
       A note from Google AdWords: Can we help you?
       InboxX
       
       Reply |Google AdWords to me
       show details Oct 18 (2 days ago)
       
       
       Hello,
       
       We've noticed that your ads still aren't running on Google. We sent you an email last week with instructions for activating your AdWords account (we've included them below), but we wanted to reach out again and see if you needed any extra help.
       
       If you're having trouble activating your account, or if you're not sure whether AdWords is right for your business, please let us know! We're here to help you get started and answer any nagging questions you have about AdWords.
       
       If you want to get started right now, you can activate your AdWords account and start showing your ads by following these instructions:
       
       1. Sign in to your account at http://services.google.com/marketing/links/us-awalogin.
       2. Click the "Create your first campaign" button.
       3. Create your ad campaign. We'll walk you through the whole process, step by step.
       4. Click the "Continue to billing" button.
       5. Submit your billing information.
       
       To learn more about AdWords, please visit the AdWords Help Center at http://services.google.com/marketing/li … wasupport. We look forward to providing you with the most effective advertising available.
       
       Sincerely,
       
       The Google AdWords Team
       
       i see now that i cofused AdWORDS with AdSENSE. it was that "your ads still aren't running on Google" sentence that got me thinking.
       
       
       
       i'm glad i asked this is the forum. it shows what a dummy i can be sometimes but it saved me a lot of heartache down the road. thanks for taking the time to respond to this, i appreciate it.

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    earnerposted 15 years ago

    So long as your Adsense ID was in your affiliate settings in the hubpages account, you'll have been earning money through Google for the account whose number you had in there, from the time you typed it in.

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       cosetteposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       i feel a lot better now! and yes that adsense id is there and has always been there and is the same for myself and for squiggles.
       
       now i can focus again.
       
       
       
       shh....i get derailed so easily....

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    Mishaposted 15 years ago

    Hey, it's ADWORDS, not ADSENSE

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    Marisa Wrightposted 15 years ago

    You don't need Adwords - that's for advertisers.

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       darksideposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       The Google Adwords Keyword Tool was only allowing signed up people signed up to Adwords to use the tool. I'm guessing that's when Cosette signed up.

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    cosetteposted 15 years ago

    thanks very much.

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    frogdroppingposted 15 years ago

    Marisa and Darkside - thanks. I get it. I remember the $10 thing. Now Doh.

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    Mishaposted 15 years ago

    Did you notice that someone fixed thread title? Thanks moderators

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       Lisa HWposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Oh - so they did.  Well, if this isn't about being "snart", then I take back everything I posted. 

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       EYEAM4ANARCHYposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I preferred the ironic version.

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    cosetteposted 15 years ago

    hey! great. thank you!

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