My HP earnings have bombed thanks to the Penguin, should I jump ship?

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   Angie Jardineposted 11 years ago

   My HP earnings have bombed thanks to the Penguin, should I jump ship?
   
   Does anyone think it would be better to go with Google Adsense rather than the HubPages payment programme?

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   Teresa Schultzposted 11 years ago

   I can't speak for others unless I go browsing around throughout the site looking for hubs or forum threads about hubbers actually mentioning which method of earning on HubPages they find is better - the HubPages Ad Program, or Adsense, but for me, the HubPages Ad Program earns me more (I started out on HubPages with just the Adsense, since the HubPages Ad Program had not yet been started.
   
   My Hubpages earnings have also taken a bit of a knock very recently, but I'm going to hang around for longer, and still use the HubPages Ad Program, and see how things turn out after a while (maybe things get back to where they were before.)
   
   If within a few months, things look no better, I don't think I could totally leave HubPages because I love being here, and I love the community, but if one of my main aims is to try and make some passive income on HubPages and the earnings are going down instead of up (or never come back up again) I will seriously consider leaving just a few of my hubs on HubPages and will move the rest to my own sites (which currently earn me more from Adsense than I earn on HubPages from Adsense and the HubPages Ad Program.

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      Angie Jardineposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks Teresa - I tried to reply to you yesterday but my response wouldn’t load. You are doing what I had decided to do ... leave it and see what happens. It is just that it all seems to be taking a longer time to respond than when Panda hit.

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   Lisa HWposted 11 years ago

   Everyone, and every Hub, is different; so I think people really do have to take a chance and do a little testing for themselves.  I do know that, at least in my case, I've been Ad-Sense-Only for pretty close to all the time since HP ads first became available.  I always found (each time I tested for a short period) that I did better with Ad Sense only.   Recently, Ad Sense had taken such a dive I just decided to switch to HP ads and "forget about it".  For now, I think I'm doing slightly better (MAYBE) with HP ads (but one can never be sure because each day's earnings can be different, things can average out, etc.)  Right now, it's pretty close with either "set-up", but with "the click" factor with Ad Sense, I can't help but think that at least for now, with fewer views a day than previously, counting on clicks isn't necessarily the best thing (at least for me, and particularly since I don't often write product-/sales- aimed Hubs).

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      Angie Jardineposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Lisa - I have been with HP ads only since they came out and it was building nicely. I don’t write product/sales hubs either and my views are very unpredictable at the moment so I will sit it out for a while longer with the HP Ad Programme and see.

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   hunter1rileyposted 11 years ago

   I like Hubpages. I've been creating these pages off and on for around 4 years and have seen Google screw around with them seemingly countless times. Tons of people give up and quit. I'm not sure why if they like the platform. These things are simple to build. Require no maintenance.  I build Hubpages and Squidoo lenses and will keep building them regardless how my self-hosted efforts are paying off. If you're clever you can get traffic to your pages without any help from Google which is what should be your goal anyway. I despise Google and am quite happy when these pages do well despite Google. These social platforms are great for testing ideas. If a niche does well on here then I might try to build a website/blog out of the keywords that I've collected.
   
   Anyway I use both revenue programs. It's worth testing to see which does better on different types of hubs. It's worthwhile to keep track of each hub to see how you can best increase your earnings. Keep testing.

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      Angie Jardineposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I will. Many thanks, hunter for your suggestions.

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   Alexander Markposted 11 years ago

   It seems like Google is forever rolling out changes that severely diminish our revenue streams. It is extremely irritating not only for someone who has worked hard to build it up, but also for those of us who are considering using online residual income to replace our real world income.
   
   I think it just points out that if you want to make money as a writer, Google should definitely be a part of it, but not the whole part - and looking to other ways to create income is the wisest course of action. I plan to self publish at least some of my work in the future, and create blogs and followers that do not depend on Google, but rather my own marketing efforts: word of mouth, seeking out other bloggers and so on. SEO has been a great device used by successful online entrepreneurs, but after one try myself years ago, I discovered it completely destroyed my creativity and freedom, and I have never wanted to apply it since.
   
   Whether or not you should jump ship, of course not! But my experience with the HP ad program has been very positive, I am actually making the payout every two to three months while my adsense still putts along at a dollar or two every month. It too has risen with my HP earnings, but it is not as profitable as my HP ad program.
   
   I expect it will continue to rise over time, and these algorithm changes are bumps along the way that we as writers will always have to deal with until we each become famous ;-)

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      Angie Jardineposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Many thanks for the good sense as usual, Mark.
      
      I have decided to stay put with the HP Ad programme but also finish editing my novel to publish on Kindle. I already write a blog so it looks as if you and I are thinking alike.
      Re:SEO, yes, it sucks

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      Alexander Markposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I am glad you were able to come to a decision - it sounds sound to me :-) I am very curious about Kindle, it seems that they offer a great support system to enable one to epublish, and it is a wonderful tool to market your work.

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