I still have the nofollow stuff on my links! (hubscore is 72)

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  1. JohnKrantz profile image59
    JohnKrantzposted 14 years ago

    I see other hubs with 62 or 68 hub score.. mine is 72 and still, the outgoing links are nofollow. help, please:( I can't use hubpages as a backlink otherwise!

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    ryankettposted 14 years ago

    I dont understand what you are going on about to be honest. Both of the external links on your hub work fine.

    I cant see how bleating on about the quality of your hub has any relevance to that, hubpages doesnt block external links... it just gives you a poor hubscore if you use too many for the same domain in one hub.

    1. lrohner profile image68
      lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Ryan, you need to get up-to-date on your terminology. DoFollow links means that Google actually takes them into consideration when figuring out where to place you in the SERP's (Search Engine Result Placements). NoFollow links means great, you have a link, but it doesn't count for squats. Can't remember what the numbers are, but if you're hubscores and/or your hub/profiles links aren't up to snuff, you get NoFollow links.

  3. JohnKrantz profile image59
    JohnKrantzposted 14 years ago

    I have 2 outgoing links (both linking to the same site) but they appear to be nofollow and won't give any link juice to my site.

    maybe it's because the two links are identical?

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      ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry you have lost me, I guess I am not up on the terminology.

      When I click on those external links, I get taken to your page... I was oblivious to need for 'link juice'....

      I can say though, that hubpages definitely does not like two identical external links... or even multiple links to the same domain, as this is immediately considered promotional.

      I still dont know what link juice is, but maybe you could remove one link and then see if you get any 'link juice'.

      You could always write a number of hubs, and link to the page through each of them.

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    ryankettposted 14 years ago

    You could also put a link on your profile page/bio.... I get more traffic to that page then any of my hubs.... all 56 of my hubs are of course linked directly to my profile.

    1. Eaglekiwi profile image74
      Eaglekiwiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Ryan some of mine are linked ,but just wondering how do you link them all? do you mean you had to manually do it ?

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        ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        Well your name and picture is on every hub, which is already a link to your bio!

        Th only reason I know that my bio gets more traffic then all (well actually most) of my hubs is because Google Analytics tells me so!

        1. Eaglekiwi profile image74
          Eaglekiwiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Oh yea I noticed that in Analytics that my profile gets more hits than anything else...though those clicks obviuosly dont pay anything..pity that, thanks

  5. JohnKrantz profile image59
    JohnKrantzposted 14 years ago

    hmm big_smile

    I must initiate you in the world of affiliate marketing but the hubpages owners will hate you for that.

    anyway, let's continue with link juice.

    Hubpages is considered an authority site by google and therefor has a high PAGERANK (from 1 to 10... let's say it has 8).

    If i make a hub here with the sole purpose of linking it to my site... my site will be seen by google like "omfg, hubpages linked to this newbie site. it means this newbie site is good".

    every link from a high page-rank site to a low-page rank site is considered like a vote in the eyes of google.

    if you want to be first on google's search results you need many many many many many high page rank links to your pages.

    and these links are usually created by seo experts or webmasters and most of the time they look like spam. sad

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      ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Well I already knew that hubpages has a high PR, hence the reason I am here, I already knew that backlinks help with PR and traffic.... but I still don't understand what 'link juice' is or how you can determine whether or not your link has 'juice'. lol.

      1. Marisa Wright profile image86
        Marisa Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        Link "juice" refers to the value search engines place on your backlinks. The more valid links you have, the better your "link juice" is said to be, and therefore the higher your page rank.

        Real people can click on "no-follow" links and get to the site, but Google just ignores them.  That's why there's so much emphasis on getting "do follow" links. That's why HubPages is so popular with internet marketers, because there aren't many places where you can get "do follow" links AND get paid at the same time. 

        And BTW, two links to the same domain in one Hub is fine.  Three+ isn't.

    2. Mark Knowles profile image58
      Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      That is because most of the time they are spam. wink

      You probably need a few more hubs to get yourself dofollowed. 2 or 3 800+ word hubs will most likely do it. I am not sure where the break is - I thought it was a hubberscore of 70 - but they do like to mess with your head. lol

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        ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        JohnKrantz, meet Mark Knowles, our resident expert smile

    3. achase profile image59
      achaseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I am curious as to how did you know that HP is NF?
      Well anyway, NF or DF, it's still a link. People would still visit to your site if they find it interesting or helpful.
      But then you were right, it could have been better if they mark the external links as DF. It would encourage more writers, but it would attract much more spammers of course.

      Well I wrote a hub of a list of DF sites like Blogger, Newsvine, Propeller and many others. These sites are as good as HP, you might want to check out my hub for the full list of DF sites.

  6. Uninvited Writer profile image81
    Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago

    I don't think HubPages wants hubs written just to send people to another site. Maybe that is the problem.

    1. GrowlingGreg profile image59
      GrowlingGregposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      If this is the case, then why on earth would anyone write a hub?

      The problem is you write a hub, build some links to it and add pr and value to Hubpages and then your hubscore goes up and down and you sometimes have a dofollow link and sometimes not.

      I'm starting to not see the point when there is so many other competing sites for good content that will just give you the dofollow link and let you move on to your next project.

  7. kephrira profile image60
    kephriraposted 14 years ago

    How do you know they're no follow?

  8. Ultimate Hubber profile image72
    Ultimate Hubberposted 14 years ago

    Once your Score reaches 75, the nofollow will be automatically removed from your links.
    It is 72 at the moment. Just 3 points to go. Write a couple of more hubs meanwhile.

  9. JohnKrantz profile image59
    JohnKrantzposted 14 years ago

    First, thanks all for replies. smile

    Yes, unfortunately i'm not that type of guy to become social and let hubpages be his favorite place to hang! sad

    I found out of Mark from some friends one year ago or so. One of them got banned because of an argue on the forums... anyway, doesn't matter.

    I guess i'll write 2-3 more hubs, all informative so that i'm dofollowable. big_smile

    It stinks this internet is flooded with spammers everyday, all just wanting to maximize revenue. Some spammers do the spam in a nice way, but some are plain dumb and with little to no intelligence spam spam spam so they get banned faster!


  10. JohnKrantz profile image59
    JohnKrantzposted 14 years ago

    Hmmm, sorry for double posting.

    How to raise my hubscore?

    more text? add an image? (tried adding an image in the beginning but it wouldn't let me (tried both from uploading or url - the backscreen got all fuzzy and i had to refresh it to go back to editing mode).

  11. kephrira profile image60
    kephriraposted 14 years ago

    Is the score of 75 the one for the individual hubs or the one for the hubber? I get mied up with the names.

  12. JohnKrantz profile image59
    JohnKrantzposted 14 years ago

    hmm, i edited the last reply here.

    I'll just write a few more hubs. Probably this hub is stuck at 72 and can't go higher... so instead of forcing a higher score on a single hub.. better get more quality hubs out there.

    smile going going guano!

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    ryankettposted 14 years ago

    It is your hubber score that matters John, and the best way to increase your hubber score is to write more hubs.... like people have already said.

    Your hubber score is not an average of your hubscores. I have a hubber score of over 90, but none of my hubs score over 90.

    Get writing.

  14. Maddie Ruud profile image71
    Maddie Ruudposted 14 years ago

    To clarify:

    For any hub to have dofollow links, the hub itself needs a score over 40, and you as a user need a score over 75.  Each hub does not need to be over 75 in and of itself.  It is your user score that is holding you back.

    You can find a lot of information about how scores work and how to improve them on user Darkside's hub on HubScore.

    1. Whitney05 profile image83
      Whitney05posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Beat me to it...

      John, you need your hubber rank at 75 not the hub score. Try more participation in the forums, reading and commenting on other hubs, answering questions, asking questions in the QA section, writing more hubs, etc.

  15. suzhinug profile image60
    suzhinugposted 14 years ago

    how do i create a hub with more points? im new to this and all my hubs seem to be pretty lame pointwise? sad

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      ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      They take time to rise, you have only been here two days..... wait and see what they are in a weeks time.

      But looking at your hub on how to make McDonalds Big Mac sauce, well... there is hardly anything to it! Im sure that you could stretch it out for another 100 or so words.

      How about a youtube video? Chances are that there will be a video of somebody on youtube making that sauce.

      As a general rule, you should really be aiming for 500+ plus words in a hub.

    2. Marisa Wright profile image86
      Marisa Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Your Hubs are way, way too short.  A Hub is like a magazine article, not a blog post.  You need at least 400 words.

      1. muzammal profile image60
        muzammalposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        My hub has more than 500 words. I've added only 1 link inside but that is also "no follow"


        Any help ?

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          khmohsinposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Dear your profile score should be 75, then you will see your all no follow links covered into do follow links.

    3. Kmadhav profile image61
      Kmadhavposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      very new on this community give some time here. Work with honesty and hardwork. you will see the result .

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    Nelle Hoxieposted 14 years ago

    If you're just here for backlinks to other sites, this is not what hubpages is about.

    If you want to make great money off of a hub itself, then you'll find that that's quite easy.

  17. Gemsong profile image62
    Gemsongposted 14 years ago

    The thing is, not all of us are here for the backlinks, the revenue or the like.

    Some of us (me) are here for the writing. Until I joined hubpages I had never written non fiction. I had never written articles about anything.

    I write to learn to stretch my wings. If people like it, great. If they don't, fine.

    And I've made some new friends here. So it's all good to me.

    1. Appletreedeals profile image68
      Appletreedealsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      why can't it serve both purposes? Hubpages was created to be an affiliate and advert. revenue generator for it's creators. The only debatable point is the character of the entity. I like the direction Hubpages has taken. Like anything else it's a quality vs. quantity issue, and I think, (as does Google apparently) that quality trumps. But this doesn't mean the site has to be myopic about it's content-type, just it's values guidelines.

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    Nelle Hoxieposted 14 years ago

    Hubpages is about making money on hubpages, because they get 40% of the impressions and that's how they make their money. Their insistence on high quality and a lack of spammy outbound links, keeps it that way.

    After what I've seen is possible here, I really want them to keep it that way.

    Allowing outbound links to thin affiliate sites is not the way to maintain your google standing.

  19. MsFran profile image59
    MsFranposted 14 years ago

    "Links" always seems to open a can of worms - I just like to see all the "wriggling" hehehe!


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