Could it be that our universe exists within the empty space of a piece of used bubble gum on the bedpost of someone existing in the 11th dimension of the
"Theory of Everything?"
No. It's the 13th dimension and the FSM owns the bed you're talkin' about. You know that, silly.
"without proof to the contrary, anything is possible..."
everywhere. something 13 billion years old and expanding has to be pretty huge by now.
cold trout smack down to the intellectual face. WTF
Nobody knows whether the Universe is limited or limitless. If it was limitless it is essentially everywhere and nowhere and contained within nothing. If true, think of it like this. Matter as we know it is made up of atoms, but is mostly space. In the hypothetical infinite universe that atom lies an infinite distance from the nearest point towards the universe. Since space cannot ever reach this, space would also become an infinite quantity, and the Universe would extend an infinite distance in all directions.
Although this has not been proved, so should it be proven that the Universe is finite, then ask the question again
Right where it is, and we are.
If you are trying to locate it further, you will require three other points that exist outside of "here" which may be difficult given the scope of our understanding.
shades...are you refering to the 3 dimensional world we exist within? What about the possibility of the other 8?
I am saying to define a location, which by definition exists in relation to something else, you need three other points of reference.
If you want to know where the universe is, you need to phrase the question in such a way as to include a point of reference. "Location" is a relationship to something else.
The existence of other dimensions is fine, but that does not change the question of where this universe is unless you can provide the location of others by which we can create a relative relationship of position. "Where" does not require a spatial relationship if you can describe a dimensional one, that's perfectly acceptable too.
Shades:
You will have to go to the "Super String Theory" for an answer to that question. Which dimension of the 11? ..beats me. You are correct tho, our universe is "here," ...but where?
The BBC has a series called "Discovery" with Lawrence Krauss explaining much of it to a scientific audience who ask questions. Great stuff.
I LUV BBC radio!
But where is here..? reminds me of this clever solution:
You were right to begin with
Could it be that our universe exists within the empty space of a piece of used bubble gum on the bedpost of someone existing in the 11th dimension of the
"Theory of Everything?"
"Denno"
Ah but since there is more space than mass, is it not possible that all is relative? That what I ask could be reality?
The universe could, in fact, be a pimple on some hairy, sweaty, Gym Teacher's ass, for all we know, so, um,....sure.
Denno:
My point exactly!
Since there is more space than mass and space to our knowledge is limitless, doesnt that make the possiblity of our universe to exist in that "pimple?
It would make "all" existence relative and just a facet of that which "IS." right?
Well, now you're making sand castles out of water as we, at present, could neither verify nor disprove this theory.
Denno:
right...but lets play in the world of if's. ok?
Okay. God could be a homeless guy on 42nd Street in New York City, the Pope could be the Third Anti-Christ(although he was in the Hitler Youth as a child), and Twinkies could be a slave-making delicacy concocted by the Aplha Centaurians. What if opens such an exciting door, doesn't it?
TAntrum:
thanks...my next logical question would be how does where our universe exists, relate to this god concept?
and where's the logic in your question ?
Ask God. I'm sure he has all the answers.
At first, I wasn't going to respond to this thread, then the more I thought about the question "Where is our universe?", in and of, itself- it became evident that there really wasn't any value of knowledge that could be gained by opening up the main discussion.
Your question is irrelevant, compared to the knowledge already known. Where? the Universe is? Is a sad attempt to prove or disprove God's existence.
I mean, you look at the end of the movie Men in Black, apparently the world or universe we existed in was contained within a marble toy of an alien.
If you look at another movie The Matrix, one would think that there is a huge problem about people determining the difference between real and fake.
It begins to make you think about all the weirdest things you can imagine. Science does have some answers, but still there is a lot of unknown. Spectulation and foolish threads like this isn't going to solve or answer the unknown.
So, I guess that boils down to your purpose for posting the thread to begin with. Which was? Who knows really, because you can pawn off whatever excuse you like, and be truly feeling something completely different.
So, with that said- Have fun!
CAgsil:
Thanks:
One of the amazing characteristics we humans have evolved is the ability for language.
Language is responsible for our rise to power as the most deadly predator evolution has produce to date on this planet.
Let take another peek at the purpose of language. Maybe the exchange of ideas? Maybe to converse just for the enjoyment of "chat?" Maybe to explore areas of thought foreign to many? maybe to explain that which others imagine? on and on...why does there have to be a serious purpose to every question asked? Why can't questions just be considered and played with for fun or entertainment? hmmm? I asked this question because of the potential the "super String Theory" presents to a searching and evolving mankind....I asked this question in the hope that maybe, just maybe others who have not been introduced to the theory might find it interesting ...and maybe, just maybe, someone with an aptitude in physics might present to me...a layperson.a greater understanding of the theory of everything....there is always a something to learn and no question is valueless....but thanks for your response.
Interesting question. I've always wondered if our universe is actually the inside of a huge black hole, and then all of the other black holes lead to alternate universes.
Nao:
It's questions like yours that inspire thought and interesting conversation.
We dont know the answers but to be curious about such things is the essence of being human...
Great question and thought.
I think you'll have to go to the experts like Hawking for a meaningful response....
thanks for your response you are appreciated.:-)
Inside a giant ass
Sorry, if somebody already gave this answer
What is above is like what is underneah.
What is within is like what is without.
Hicapous, hocapous, man is polygamous.
hocapous, Hicapuos, woman is monogamous...
Hope this helps.
There's no right or wrong answer to this one ...
My best guess? Whether you believe in multiple universes or just one, or if this universe is limitless or limited ... it should always come back to the answer ... it's here.
Why? Because we are contained within this universe. We can't be outside something we belong to.
Of course, if you want to know where are universe is in relation to things outside of our universe then we need to know where those things are.
Where is New York City? If you are asked this while you are in New York City then you might exclaim, 'You're lookin' at it bub!', but from somewhere else you might say it's in New York, north of New Jersey and south of Connecticut. From there, you could give more references of places, directions - and even mileage away from other places - but without the existence of other places you could never tell someone else where New York City was unless they stood within the city.
Of course, I could be wrong, but this seems like a pretty logical answer to me.
It goes back as far as you like though. How would you define the Universe? Where would the boundary be between Universe and whatever else, and how would we define it?
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