Is HP Weeding?

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   Sue Adamsposted 4 years ago

   I noticed recently that some members who have hundreds of featured hubs have very low Hubber scores between (35 and  45) while spammers wit Zero hubs who only join the site for spamming start with a Hubber score of 60! Has this always been so?
   I am all in favor of getting rid of poor writing. Just wondering what is going on.

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      jackclee lmposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      The hubscore is not an accurate indicator of quality of content... it is an automatic indicator using a bunch of artificial intelligent algorithms that take into account traffic and the like... when they tweak the algorithms periodically, the scores tend to swing up and down ...I just ignore it.

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      theraggededgeposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      I guess new joiners are given the benefit of the doubt and start with a standard number. Scores soon drop if they don't write anything or submit low quality articles.

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         Christy Kirwanposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         Yes, that's the case. We start people out with middle-of-the-road scores (influenced slightly by factors like whether or not they have added a profile pic, the content in their bio, etc) and once the person starts engaging with the site more, the score moves up or down accordingly.

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            TessSchlesingerposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            Christy, why don't hp tells us exactly what comprises the hubscores. It's annoying not knowing how to improve them. I do my best to write good hubs, albeit I can't be here all the time. So do a good many other people. Is it the number of hubs, the interaction on the forum, etc? Why does it have to be a secret? In my experience, when people know what to aim for, they do far better.
            
            And I do not for one moment believe that they are irrelevant. They wouldn't be there if they were irrelevant.

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               poppyrposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               I don’t know the exact rules but I’ve had a score of 98-100 continuously for the past year, and I’ve been:
               - Publishing new hubs once or more a week
               - Visiting the site daily
               - Looked briefly at forums (though I don’t really post in them much)
               - Occasionally commenting on other people’s hubs
               
               It might be a mix of these things. (It would be really funny if my score dropped to 42 or something between me posting this and you reading it, haha.)

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               Christy Kirwanposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               We keep these scores secret for the same reason search engines keep their algorithms secret; we want the scores to occur naturally, not because spammers are trying to game this system for more exposure and better placement.

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                  TessSchlesingerposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  Thank you. Now I understand. So I average on 95. It's okay. Wish I knew how to get to a 100!

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                     Christy Kirwanposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                     Looks like you have a 97 now. My only advice is to keep doing what you're doing because you have a great score.

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                        TessSchlesingerposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                        Thank you.

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   Sue Adamsposted 4 years ago

   Ah OK, that makes sense Bev.

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   lobobrandonposted 4 years ago

   As far as I remember, the 60s was always the starting point. And at the end of the day, the score doesn't really matter.

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      whereyouwatchposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      If you are above 85, your links get a dofollow tag. This matters for SEO.

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         lobobrandonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         No, it does not. It matters if you are using HP to link to your other websites. Else it does not matter. And I think we are talking from a point of view keeping HP at the center and not using it as a web 2.0.

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   Kenna McHughposted 4 years ago

   If the score doesn't matter, then...What does matter?

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      theraggededgeposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Good quality work, traffic and income. Scores follow from those, not the other way round.

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      TessSchlesingerposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      I actually thinks the scores do matter - but I just don't know how.
      
      "Methink he protests too much" is what goes through my mind when we are told that they don't matter. They wouldn't be there if they didn't matter.

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   whereyouwatchposted 4 years ago

   I removed half of my hubs, all below 70, and went from 80 to 85 within a day. Quality not quantity I guess. It is a shame as some of the hubs I removed where pretty good imo.

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   blueheronposted 4 years ago

   I have the impression that posting on this feed gives your hubber score a slight boost.

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      Dunbar Greenposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Well, I will certainly reply to that!

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         greenmindposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         +1

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      paradigmsearchposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Here is how to get a two-for-one: simply give me a permanent score of 100.
      
      This will:
      A. Immediately induce at least 10 heart attacks, thus accomplishing the weeding.
      B. I will have a permanent score of 100.

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   blueheronposted 4 years ago

   I've been thinking I should do a little pruning of some of my old articles. I've learned a lot more about my subject matter in the past three or four years, and there are some that are not up-to-date.
   
   Sometimes I consider removing old blogs that get poor traffic and feel that they're very good, and I can't quite bring myself to take them down. Pruning is kind of a painful process.

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      Dunbar Greenposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Did anyone notice that just in the 21 minutes since I commented my score decreased by one? It was 91 when I posted, and when I looked just now, 90. I am new to Hub, but I think that is a good example of how small fluctuations in  that number can't mean much.

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   Oztinatoposted 4 years ago

   These days there are complex AI algorithms that decide what happens.
   Add to this the strict human hub rules about various kinds of promotion and there is a very difficult playing field.
   I joined hp as it is above average in free speech and intelligence. My goal is to get some urgent ideas out plus to keep a toe in the water of writing.
   Currently my own business is doing well but in the event of illness or incapacity I hope to write more and devote more attention to streamlining all of my hubs. Then I want to add more etc. I'm trying to respond to hp tweaks and criticisms constructively in order to improve my writing quality.
   However I would need to be bedridden before I could cultivate the patience to be a writer of calibre.

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   sydneyspenceposted 4 years ago

   Makes no sense. I've watched my score drop from a 90 to a 71 in the matter of a few weeks, I've added more featured hubs, and have seen increased traffic but after years of being on Hubpages, my score sucks.

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      theraggededgeposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Sidney, it always happens when you add new hubs. Because they haven't yet reached their true ranking, it brings your average score down. I'm happy when I see mine dip because I know there's another new hub in the stable.

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      TessSchlesingerposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Your articles are too short.

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         theraggededgeposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         The ones I saw are fine. What length is too short?
         
         Edit: His main problem is that they aren't on niche sites.

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            TessSchlesingerposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            Yes they are't on niche sites. They're too short. A good article is somewhere between 1500 and 2000 words.

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