HubPages has grown so much, that we need a cataloging service to compartmentalize and simplify this incredible growth. How about a newspaper? This does not have to be a daily newspaper — it could be a weekly, or a monthly newspaper.
This newspaper will host the best of HubPages (ie., poetry, short stories, articles, science fiction, travel blogs, tech tips, etc), and also include new lists of interesting websites, youtube channels, youtube videos (e.g., Marques Brownlee, iJustine, etc), noteworthy tweets, etc.
All newspapers are drafted in a way that the stories cover the entirety of the news-page. Our HubPages Newspaper will a rebel in this field: it will only publish as much news~content as it is generated genuinely (not with the intention to fill up the page) — the stories will end up crisscrossing the news-page; the rest of the page will be filled with interesting, matching, and aesthetically pleasing vector graphics arts.
The HubPages Newspaper, apart from its physically printed publication, will be released with its digital version as well. The HubPages Editors will curate them.
Maven already publishes (physically printed) magazines — why not a newspaper?
How would "lists of interesting websites, youtube (sic) channels, youtube videos" which are our competitors benefit authors on HubPages? That's like your local bookstore advertising Amazon.
I don't think that is necesary. Are writers here having a choice to publish on hubpages or hubpages newspaper?
The best writings and contents from HubPages will be selected for the HubPages Newspaper.
Hey there, who does the selection? Some of us writers kind of better than certain editors at hubpages, right?
Of course, he is talking about HubPages will do the selection
Well, the platform knows better if the writers are better or the editors...
I have seen many good writers here, no doubts
Of course HP knows who is capable and who is not... They are the ones who gave us the platform to write so obviously they know about their betterment
They know how they have to make a team for selecting articles
I think, Editors help us to move many of our articles to network site and help us to grow even better
Peace and Blessings
Who will make the selection? Some of us writers kind of better than editor at hubpages, right?
Newspapers are funded by advertisers. What would attract advertisers? A venture capitalist would want to know that before investing in the startup cost. They want to make money.
An all-new Amazon Alexa Echo Show 10 device was recently (a few days ago) released. Here is the YouTuber iJustine displaying the device: https://youtu.be/qXOYAyXba5M.
This could be the front-page story of our newspaper. We shall earn money from Amazon.
There are tons of ways to make money out of the HubPages Newspaper. We have to be inventive about it.
What I suggest is to use the feedback from here and use it with your idea, purpose, and business model. Then research start-up costs followed by financial operating costs, e.g. salaries, payments to writers, print costs or web site maintence, etc. Determine resources such as advertising and subscriptions. Then write a hub on it.
That is a wonderful suggestion. I shall definitely give it a try. I may not immediately write it, but I am keeping it in my list. Thank you very much.
Yep. Logistics, export, distributors in each country. Together with expected advertising revenue and income from projected sales. Then don't forget to set a retail price.
Good luck with all that
Go for this
Tsmog gave a nice idea
Blessings and Kind regards
I shall try to get the hub done by the end of the next week. Yes, Mr. Mitchell's (tsmog) idea is excellent.
[I can not promise though that the hub will be very detailed or thorough. I'm a poet after all!]
Kind regards and blessings to you too.
I have thinking about the digital version i.e, a network site that publishes news. I know news is not ever-green but it really attracts a large traffic in a short time.
That could be also there, an additional service.
In case you're interested, Maven operates several news related assets. Here is one:
It's a nice idea but
I don't know much about all this
Wikipedia says Pacific Standard was to close after its primary funder abruptly cut off all funding.
Founded in 2008, the magazine was published in print and online for its first ten years until production of the print edition ceased in 2018
Yes, Rupert Taylor already mentioned this trend on this forum thread. I quote him (the original text is found just below this post):
I case you haven't noticed, one in five newspapers in the United States has gone out of business in the last 15 years. The story is the same the world over; the newspaper and magazine industries are dying.
As always, blessings to you too.
Maven is a juggernaut. I've heard it operates 250+ assets. One of these assets is MTO News. Unlike Pacific Standard (which has been archived), this one is up and running.
Tanmoy check out these threads about MTO
https://hubpages.com/community/forum/34 … ed-section
https://hubpages.com/community/forum/34 … t-the-heck
Blessings and Peace
I briefly checked these two forum threads. Thank you for bringing them to our attention.
Those discussions took place two years ago. MTO News has definitely improved since. The central theme of the asset is quite sensitive (it borders on the issue of racism), hence the contents of the asset carries that smell.
I've finally found out (Thanks to Glenn Stok) an indexed list of all the assets operated by Maven. Here it is:
https://maven.io/company/pages/list-of- … tN6wVZnMZw
I case you haven't noticed, one in five newspapers in the United States has gone out of business in the last 15 years. The story is the same the world over; the newspaper and magazine industries are dying. Suggesting Maven prints a newspaper would be like opening up a business making harnesses for horses just as the first Model Ts came off the production line.
Can confirm. Source: 25+ years of working in the newspaper industry.
Be nice for them to feature writers in their magazine
Bev is here finally
I think we really need your opinion
I have no opinion on this, other than print news is as dead as a dodo.
And television news is on the way out too, I think.
That's equal to saying that Sony PlayStation and Microsoft Xbox (and also Netflix!) are on the way out, too.
Again, you are incorrect. The demographics for regular live TV broadcasts are changing. Older people watch TV but younger audiences prefer their entertainment on demand. Viewing figures for regular live news broadcasts are declining in the west; they are in the UK anyway.
https://www.simulmedia.com/assets/media … search.pdf
Good for a laugh this morning though. I especially enjoyed Rupert´s example. (My great-grandfather invested in an ice factory, just before the time when every household started buying a fridge. How is that for long-term thinking?)
Maven is a rapidly expanding company with questionable profitability. The last thing they need to do is create an unfocused product using obsolete and expensive technology.
Newspapers are "obsolete" (and "expensive")? That's like saying horses are obsolete and expensive, because no one uses them any longer.
Horses might indeed be a bit expensive to maintain. But they are valuable sports apparatus.
When one is a rapidly expanding company with questionable profitability — one of the most profound moves to make might be to invest into some pioneering activity.
No, it isn't. Your analogy does not make sense. The initial and ongoing costs of setting up a print publication don't make it worthwhile for a digital platform.
Where will it be sold? Which country/ies? HubPages and Maven reach a global audience. What about print and distribution costs? It is simply not viable.
No one is saying horses are obsolete... but horse-drawn transport and machinery is.
You make some excellent points here. However, horse-racing is something eternal. It will continue to exist as long as humanity exist. If it weren't so, all the libraries and museums in the world would have gone 100% digital.
Again... not horse-racing; horse-powered vehicles for transport, agriculture, and industry. Obsolete. Newsprint is headed the same way. It's too slow, too expensive, and doesn't attract advertising like it used to.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/medi … 69736.html
Bev made some valid points here
The newspaper industry (worldwide) has its basis in the principles of horse~racing.
The No. 1 company in the world that makes newspaper machinery/printer is manroland Goss. But there are tons of much cheaper alternatives out there. For example, people in the less affluent countries also read newspaper. These newspapers obviously can not spend money on a manroland Goss product. They buy local alternatives.
Newspapers are something eternal. They will continue to exist.
What a debate...
I don't have much to say but I am enjoying it
They may well do, but why would Maven enter an already declining market?
It goes against logic and common sense, Das.
Where will it be sold? Which country/ies? HubPages and Maven reach a global audience. What about print and distribution costs? It is simply not viable.
I do not live in Los Angeles. I live in Bengal. However, I know that there exists a newspaper in Los Angeles called Los Angeles Times. I can access it from anywhere. I can print it anytime I wish.
https://enewspaper.latimes.com/desktop/ … 6bf740270e
https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/uk-natio … isruption/
Printing it yourself is not the same as a company producing a print-based newspaper. No one prints out a whole newspaper unless for a very specific reason.
Edit: therefore you are accessing a digital edition, yes?
That above link is the digital edition of today's Los Angeles Times newspaper.
Quod erat demonstrandum.
You just made my argument for me.
If I were in Los Angeles, I would have bought the real, physical, substantial version of today's Los Angeles Times newspaper.
"The HubPages Newspaper, apart from its physically printed publication, will be released with its digital version as well. The HubPages Editors will curate them."
"its physically printed publication".
As I said, that's never going to happen
The digital, editor curated version already exists. It's the collection of websites under the HubPages umbrella.
A newspaper can be easily printed. A large website can not be printed in its entirety.
The point, you are missing. That's still digital-based.
You are, or were, referring to a whole printed paper analogue operation (as shown in your initial image), which is entirely different.
And no one is suggesting the whole website be printed. A person can easily choose a selection of articles (to their needs and taste), simplify them with a web-clipper like Evernote, Notion, Pocket, etc and print off what they need. You can do that right now, without HP going to all the extra hassle of producing a digital newspaper. Not only that, it can be done from a whole variety of sites, therefore not restricted to HP.
And if printing is a pain, then why not save them to whatever device you use and make them available off-line? Create your own 'magazine'. It's completely free.
"HubPages has grown so much, that we need a cataloging service to compartmentalize and simplify this incredible growth. How about a newspaper?
This newspaper will host the best of HubPages (ie., poetry, short stories, articles, science fiction, travel blogs, tech tips, etc), and also include new lists of interesting websites, youtube channels, youtube videos (e.g., Marques Brownlee, iJustine, etc), noteworthy tweets, etc."
One point you're consistently missing is the fact that authors love to see their name in print.
Going off on an unrelated tangent now. And still not addressing the practicalities I mentioned.
Take my post above, and refute the points one-by-one.
In case you hadn't noticed, the author's name appears on every article, whether print or digital.
Yes, author's name is shown on every hub. However, I have to open the computer (phone, tablet, etc) to show that to a friend, relative, neighbor, etc. A newspaper solves this issue.
HubPages is not going to produce a printed newspaper just so you can show your technologically-challenged neighbour the author's name. Almost everyone in the developed world has access to a digital device - even if it's only at the local library.
I can catalog an array of hubs to my personal liking. However, when HubPages Editors do that — that immediately becomes a thing of pleasure (for hubbers). That is a shout out that the chosen hubber is doing good.
Also, the Editors read more hubs than we do. They know better than us where the true gems exist.
They won't do it.
Think about this. Say this newsletter is made available. It will contain the best articles, yes? However, it will have articles from how to install an electrical system, health advice, poetry, gardening, cookery, knitting, gaming. It's too wide-ranging - an individual may only find one or two article s/he is interested in. Therefore, no one's going to buy it. Magazines, by their very nature are niche.
1. ". . .and also include new lists of interesting websites, youtube channels, youtube videos (e.g., Marques Brownlee, iJustine, etc), noteworthy tweets, etc."
2. "An all-new Amazon Alexa Echo Show 10 device was recently (a few days ago) released. Here is the YouTuber iJustine displaying the device: https://youtu.be/qXOYAyXba5M. This could be the front-page story of our newspaper."
Yep, 'iJustine' would make me shell out my earnings on a newspaper. Not.
The Amazon Echo Show has been out for a year or two. Don't you think that if people want info on it, they will go direct to Amazon?
It's front-page history.
Remember, if your newspaper is coming out once a month, the 'news' is already way out of date.
Oh yeah the Echo 10 - been out since the beginning of Feb in the UK. So that ship has already sailed. Do you see what I mean?
Bored now. I'll leave you to it, Das.
The HubPages Newspaper also will become an additional source of income for both HubPages and hubbers.
I think the readership of newspapers is decreasing in favour of the digital plaform. Many nowadays prefer to read and research online, except when in a public library.
So far, so good. I would like to have my own say of this school boy/girl argument. I recalled here when I was in my last year(class 5) in secondary grammar school, the English head teacher, ask the class to make a sentense with word advertisement. And I said: "Newspapers makes a lot of profits by advertisement." Back then, it was true. But nowadays profit can be low or zig-zaging due to competition from web ads, tv, mobile platform. It is of interest to note that in certain remote rural area or villages, the horse carriage, the donkey cart and the like are still significant in the peoples lives. Exception to this is lordly palace where a king or queen hold rule. And Because we've brought up mostly in the cities we hardly remember. Seriously, the print media began in clay form.
So, instead of looking backwards, look to the future. The problem already with many specialist digital editions that they don't make much money. Because most platforms are clunky, advertisers are put off. And readers aren't best pleased if, having paid for a digital download/access, it's full of intrusive ads. So you need to think differently.
You have to look around and see what's available. What platforms are they using? Would it be better as a website, a pdf, a magazine platform (whatever it is they use)? How much? Etc. etc. How will you market it? Who will run it - the editors haven't got time to do it. You have to think and cost all these factors in.
I'm here with the definitive answer to the HubPagesNewspaper/Race Horses/Das conundrum.
If you feed rutabagas to race horses, the animals produce a dung that is excellent for turning into newsprint- lots of fibre don't you know. It provides the perfect medium for printing what passes for journalism these days; I'm thinking here of any outlet owned by Rupert Murdoch.
There's an added and totally unexpected bonus. Once printed, the newspapers deliver themselves.
Not a lot of people know this.
That's the way
Talking of crap in the media, I just read a sentence in a UK paper (it may be a Murdoch 'asset') - it ended, "... as the light grew darker."
I had to exit quickly. Thank goodness for the X button.
I found a lot of logic in your response.
I would summarize the idea of a print newspaper version of HP, in my blunt Northern English style, as being "daft".
Or, in internet-speak, "Das".
This reeks of one of his threads.
It's good to remember Playboy, the behemoth, gave up on it's print magazine and started going digital. At least last I heard. Print is no longer the thing. Maybe at some point there will be some retro nostalgic trend of getting into print magazines but it probably won't involve Maven and Hubpages.
I've just returned here after a brief search: You're correct! Playboy is no longer publishing its print version of the magazine.
But they are not publishing any digital eBook version of the magazine either.
The article "The HubPages Newspaper" is having some issues, and it has been unpublished by HubPages, the status of publication of the article is pending. The fault is from my side. I directly copied some portions of writing from those websites that I linked in the article, without any modification. So the copied~content detection system on HubPages detected my article as being copied.
I'm rewriting the entire article. It will be republished today (if not today, then tomorrow certainly).
I thank you here for commenting on the previous article. You're a kind spirit. I hope you'll understand my situation. Thank you again.
Thanks a lot for giving me a call here, Tanmoy
I was suspecting it is maybe an issue about a duplicate content. It is normal but having a continuous duplication can lead to a ban. So be careful and check it before publishing it. When you didn’t reply back, I was thinking, you might have mind me asking about that article or maybe you were busy because of Holi. Well no worries. I am glad you will be publishing it back
I've just republished that article. This time, all of the content is my own. I am just too lazy, so I fell into a marvelous trap. I shall be more cautious next time. This is my first attempt at a prose hub after all.
Thank you, kind regards and gratitude from my side also, and blessings.
It happens, I understand, happened with me on my original content, sometimes even original content can get plagiarized elsewhere be careful to check it with the website I mentioned before, there are plenty more but I use that one, it's reliable.
I am glad that you gave it a try, nobody is perfect and of course we learn from trials and errors. To err is human, right?
Be happy and You can do it! Stay positive, remember positive vibes! I am very sure, it will be gonna fine this time
I can see it's published now
Peace and Blessings
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