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   Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years ago

   
   HubPages has grown so much, that we need a cataloging service to compartmentalize and simplify this incredible growth. How about a newspaper? This does not have to be a daily newspaper — it could be a weekly, or a monthly newspaper.
   
   This newspaper will host the best of HubPages (ie., poetry, short stories, articles, science fiction, travel blogs, tech tips, etc), and also include new lists of interesting websites, youtube channels, youtube videos (e.g., Marques Brownlee, iJustine, etc), noteworthy tweets, etc.
   
   All newspapers are drafted in a way that the stories cover the entirety of the news-page. Our HubPages Newspaper will a rebel in this field: it will only publish as much news~content as it is generated genuinely (not with the intention to fill up the page) — the stories will end up crisscrossing the news-page; the rest of the page will be filled with interesting, matching, and aesthetically pleasing vector graphics arts.
   
   The HubPages Newspaper, apart from its physically printed publication, will be released with its digital version as well. The HubPages Editors will curate them.
   
   Maven already publishes (physically printed) magazines — why not a newspaper?

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      OldRosesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      How would "lists of interesting websites, youtube (sic) channels, youtube videos" which are our competitors benefit authors on HubPages?  That's like your local bookstore advertising Amazon.

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         Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

         YouTube is a Google product. Google and Maven are friends.

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            OldRosesposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            Being "friends" has nothing to do with it.  Obviously you don't understand the economics of the situation.

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      Miebakagh57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I don't think that is necesary. Are writers here having a choice to publish on hubpages or hubpages newspaper?

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         Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

         The best writings and contents from HubPages will be selected for the HubPages Newspaper.

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            Miebakagh57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

            Hey there, who does the selection? Some of us writers kind of better than certain editors at hubpages, right?

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               Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

               Of course, he is talking about HubPages will do the selection
               
               Well, the platform knows better if the writers are better or the editors...
               
               I have seen many good writers here, no doubts
               
               Of course HP knows who is capable and who is not... They are the ones who gave us the platform to write so obviously they know about their betterment
               
               They know how they have to make a team for selecting articles
               
               I think, Editors help us to move many of our articles to network site and help us to grow even better
               
               Peace and Blessings

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            Miebakagh57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

            Who will make the selection? Some of us writers kind of better than editor at hubpages, right?

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               Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

               The Editors at HubPages will do the selection.
               
               Peace!

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                  Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  

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                  Miebakagh57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  Bingo!

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      tsmogposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Newspapers are funded by advertisers. What would attract advertisers? A venture capitalist would want to know that before investing in the startup cost. They want to make money.

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         Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

         An all-new Amazon Alexa Echo Show 10 device was recently (a few days ago) released. Here is the YouTuber iJustine displaying the device: https://youtu.be/qXOYAyXba5M.
         
         This could be the front-page story of our newspaper. We shall earn money from Amazon.
         
         There are tons of ways to make money out of the HubPages Newspaper. We have to be inventive about it.

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            tsmogposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            What I suggest is to use the feedback from here and use it with your idea, purpose, and business model. Then research start-up costs followed by financial operating costs, e.g. salaries, payments to writers, print costs or web site maintence, etc. Determine resources such as advertising and subscriptions. Then write a hub on it.

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               Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

               That is a wonderful suggestion. I shall definitely give it a try. I may not immediately write it, but I am keeping it in my list. Thank you very much.

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               theraggededgeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

               Yep. Logistics, export, distributors in each country. Together with expected advertising revenue and income from projected sales. Then don't forget to set a retail price.
               
               Good luck with all that

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                  Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  Maven/HubPages may start the newspaper in the San Francisco area first.

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               Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

               Yes Tanmoy
               Go for this
               Tsmog gave a nice idea
               
               Blessings and Kind regards

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                  Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  I shall try to get the hub done by the end of the next week. Yes, Mr. Mitchell's (tsmog) idea is excellent.
                  
                  [I can not promise though that the hub will be very detailed or thorough. I'm a poet after all!]
                  
                  Kind regards and blessings to you too.

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                     Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                     Tanmoy, I know poets can do wonders
                     Kind regards

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                        Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                        

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   Jan Saintsposted 2 years ago

   I have thinking about the digital version i.e, a network site that publishes news. I know news is not ever-green but it really attracts a large traffic in a short time.

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      Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      That could be also there, an additional service.

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      Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      In case you're interested, Maven operates several news related assets. Here is one:
      
      Pacific Standard

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         Jan Saintsposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         Ooh cool

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         Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

         It's a nice idea but
         I don't know much about all this
         
         Wikipedia says Pacific Standard was to close after its primary funder abruptly cut off all funding.
         Founded in 2008, the magazine was published in print and online for its first ten years until production of the print edition ceased in 2018
         
         Blessings

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            Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, Rupert Taylor already mentioned this trend on this forum thread. I quote him (the original text is found just below this post):
            
            I case you haven't noticed, one in five newspapers in the United States has gone out of business in the last 15 years. The story is the same the world over; the newspaper and magazine industries are dying.
            
            As always, blessings to you too.

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               Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

               Oh! sorry I didn't notice

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                  Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  It's okay. Peace!

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            Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

            Maven is a juggernaut. I've heard it operates 250+ assets. One of these assets is MTO News. Unlike Pacific Standard (which has been archived), this one is up and running.

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               Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

               Tanmoy check out these threads about MTO
               https://hubpages.com/community/forum/34 … ed-section
               
               https://hubpages.com/community/forum/34 … t-the-heck
               
               Blessings and Peace

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                  Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  I briefly checked these two forum threads. Thank you for bringing them to our attention.
                  
                  Those discussions took place two years ago. MTO News has definitely improved since. The central theme of the asset is quite sensitive (it borders on the issue of racism), hence the contents of the asset carries that smell.

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                     Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                     My Pleasure

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                        Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                        

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            Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

            https://psmag.com/
            https://mtonews.com/

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            Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

            I've finally found out (Thanks to Glenn Stok) an indexed list of all the assets operated by Maven. Here it is:
            
            https://maven.io/company/pages/list-of- … tN6wVZnMZw

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               Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

               I am glad you found it out
               Blessings

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                  Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  

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   Rupert Taylorposted 2 years ago

   I case you haven't noticed, one in five newspapers in the United States has gone out of business in the last 15 years. The story is the same the world over; the newspaper and magazine industries are dying. Suggesting Maven prints a newspaper would be like opening up a business making harnesses for horses just as the first Model Ts came off the production line.

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      Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you for your response. I like it. But I think horse racing will never go out of business completely.
      
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jockey

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   FatFreddysCatposted 2 years ago

   Can confirm. Source: 25+ years of working in the newspaper industry.

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   Brenda Arledgeposted 2 years ago

   Be nice for them to feature writers in their magazine

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      Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      "It's pleasant, sure, to see one's name in print."
      
      — Lord Byron

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   theraggededgeposted 2 years ago

   This thread is

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      Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Bev is here finally
      I think we really need your opinion

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         theraggededgeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         I have no opinion on this, other than print news is as dead as a dodo.

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            NateB11posted 2 years agoin reply to this

            And television news is on the way out too, I think.

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               Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

               That's equal to saying that Sony PlayStation and Microsoft Xbox (and also Netflix!) are on the way out, too.

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                  theraggededgeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  Again, you are incorrect. The demographics for regular live TV broadcasts are changing. Older people watch TV but younger audiences prefer their entertainment on demand. Viewing figures for regular live news broadcasts are declining in the west; they are in the UK anyway.
                  
                  https://www.simulmedia.com/assets/media … search.pdf

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            DrMark1961posted 2 years agoin reply to this

            Good for a laugh this morning though. I especially enjoyed Rupert´s example. (My great-grandfather invested in an ice factory, just before the time when every household started buying a fridge. How is that for long-term thinking?)

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   psycheskinnerposted 2 years ago

   Maven is a rapidly expanding company with questionable profitability.  The last thing they need to do is create an unfocused product using obsolete and expensive technology.

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      Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Newspapers are "obsolete" (and "expensive")? That's like saying horses are obsolete and expensive, because no one uses them any longer.
      
      Horses might indeed be a bit expensive to maintain. But they are valuable sports apparatus.
      
      When one is a rapidly expanding company with questionable profitability — one of the most profound moves to make might be to invest into some pioneering activity.

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         theraggededgeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         No, it isn't. Your analogy does not make sense. The initial and ongoing costs of setting up a print publication don't make it worthwhile for a digital platform.
         
         Where will it be sold? Which country/ies? HubPages and Maven reach a global audience. What about print and distribution costs? It is simply not viable.
         
         No one is saying horses are obsolete... but horse-drawn transport and machinery is.

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            Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

            You make some excellent points here. However, horse-racing is something eternal. It will continue to exist as long as humanity exist. If it weren't so, all the libraries and museums in the world would have gone 100% digital.

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               theraggededgeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

               Again... not horse-racing; horse-powered vehicles for transport, agriculture, and industry. Obsolete. Newsprint is headed the same way. It's too slow, too expensive, and doesn't attract advertising like it used to.
               
               https://www.independent.co.uk/news/medi … 69736.html

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                  Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  Bev made some valid points here
                  Blessings

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                  Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  The newspaper industry (worldwide) has its basis in the principles of horse~racing.

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                     theraggededgeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                     Right, if you say so

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                        Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                        People love to hold something real, something substantial in their hands. That's why newspapers exist. That should not be so difficult to understand.

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            Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

            The No. 1 company in the world that makes newspaper machinery/printer is manroland Goss. But there are tons of much cheaper alternatives out there. For example, people in the less affluent countries also read newspaper. These newspapers obviously can not spend money on a manroland Goss product. They buy local alternatives.
            
            Newspapers are something eternal. They will continue to exist.

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               Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

               What a debate...
               I don't have much to say but I am enjoying it
               Blessings

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                  Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  

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               theraggededgeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

               They may well do, but why would Maven enter an already declining market?
               
               It goes against logic and common sense, Das.

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            Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

            Where will it be sold? Which country/ies? HubPages and Maven reach a global audience. What about print and distribution costs? It is simply not viable.
            
            I do not live in Los Angeles. I live in Bengal. However, I know that there exists a newspaper in Los Angeles called Los Angeles Times. I can access it from anywhere. I can print it anytime I wish.
            
            https://enewspaper.latimes.com/desktop/ … 6bf740270e

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               theraggededgeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

               https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/uk-natio … isruption/
               
               Printing it yourself is not the same as a company producing a print-based newspaper. No one prints out a whole newspaper unless for a very specific reason.
               
               Edit: therefore you are accessing a digital edition, yes?

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                  Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  That above link is the digital edition of today's Los Angeles Times newspaper.

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                     theraggededgeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                     Quod erat demonstrandum.
                     
                     You just made my argument for me.

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                        Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                        I don't live in Los Angeles.

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                           theraggededgeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                           Precisely.

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                              NateB11posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                              

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                              Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                              If I were in Los Angeles, I would have bought the real, physical, substantial version of today's Los Angeles Times newspaper.

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                              Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                              "The HubPages Newspaper, apart from its physically printed publication, will be released with its digital version as well. The HubPages Editors will curate them."
                              
                              https://hubpages.com/forum/post/4180606

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                                 theraggededgeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                                 "its physically printed publication".
                                 
                                 As I said, that's never going to happen
                                 
                                 The digital, editor curated version already exists. It's the collection of websites under the HubPages umbrella.

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                                    Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                                    A newspaper can be easily printed. A large website can not be printed in its entirety.

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                                       theraggededgeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                                       The point, you are missing. That's still digital-based.
                                       
                                       You are, or were, referring to a whole printed paper analogue operation (as shown in your initial image), which is entirely different.
                                       
                                       And no one is suggesting the whole website be printed. A person can easily choose a selection of articles (to their needs and taste), simplify them with a web-clipper like Evernote, Notion, Pocket, etc and print off what they need. You can do that right now, without HP going to all the extra hassle of producing a digital newspaper. Not only that, it can be done from a whole variety of sites, therefore not restricted to HP.
                                       
                                       And if printing is a pain, then why not save them to whatever device you use and make them available off-line? Create your own 'magazine'. It's completely free.

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                                          Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                                          "HubPages has grown so much, that we need a cataloging service to compartmentalize and simplify this incredible growth. How about a newspaper?
                                          
                                          This newspaper will host the best of HubPages (ie., poetry, short stories, articles, science fiction, travel blogs, tech tips, etc), and also include new lists of interesting websites, youtube channels, youtube videos (e.g., Marques Brownlee, iJustine, etc), noteworthy tweets, etc."
                                          
                                          https://hubpages.com/forum/post/4180606

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                                             theraggededgeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                                             "The HubPages Newspaper, apart from its physically printed publication"

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                                          Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                                          One point you're consistently missing is the fact that authors love to see their name in print.

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                                             theraggededgeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                                             Going off on an unrelated tangent now. And still not addressing the practicalities I mentioned.
                                             
                                             Take my post above, and refute the points one-by-one.
                                             
                                             In case you hadn't noticed, the author's name appears on every article, whether print or digital.

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                                                Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                                                Yes, author's name is shown on every hub. However, I have to open the computer (phone, tablet, etc) to show that to a friend, relative, neighbor, etc. A newspaper solves this issue.

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                                                   theraggededgeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                                                   HubPages is not going to produce a printed newspaper just so you can show your technologically-challenged neighbour the author's name. Almost everyone in the developed world has access to  a digital device - even if it's only at the local library.

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                                                      Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                                                      https://www.printnewspaper.com/

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                                                         theraggededgeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                                                         I can do that for nothing. As explained earlier. But I wouldn't bother.

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                                                Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                                                I can catalog an array of hubs to my personal liking. However, when HubPages Editors do that — that immediately becomes a thing of pleasure (for hubbers). That is a shout out that the chosen hubber is doing good.
                                                
                                                Also, the Editors read more hubs than we do. They know better than us where the true gems exist.

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                                                   theraggededgeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                                                   They won't do it.
                                                   
                                                   Think about this. Say this newsletter is made available. It will contain the best articles, yes? However, it will have articles from how to install an electrical system, health advice, poetry, gardening, cookery, knitting, gaming. It's too wide-ranging - an individual may only find one or two article s/he is interested in. Therefore, no one's going to buy it. Magazines, by their very nature are niche.

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                                                      Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                                                      1. ". . .and also include new lists of interesting websites, youtube channels, youtube videos (e.g., Marques Brownlee, iJustine, etc), noteworthy tweets, etc."
                                                      
                                                      2. "An all-new Amazon Alexa Echo Show 10 device was recently (a few days ago) released. Here is the YouTuber iJustine displaying the device: https://youtu.be/qXOYAyXba5M. This could be the front-page story of our newspaper."

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                                                         theraggededgeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                                                         Yep, 'iJustine' would make me shell out my earnings on a newspaper. Not.
                                                         
                                                         The Amazon Echo Show has been out for a year or two. Don't you think that if people want info on it, they will go direct to Amazon?
                                                         
                                                         It's front-page history.
                                                         
                                                         Remember, if your newspaper is coming out once a month, the 'news' is already way out of date.
                                                         
                                                         Oh yeah the Echo 10 - been out since the beginning of Feb in the UK. So that ship has already sailed. Do you see what I mean?
                                                         
                                                         Bored now. I'll leave you to it, Das.

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                                                            Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                                                            "This does not have to be a daily newspaper — it could be a weekly, or a monthly newspaper.'

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                                                            Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                                                            Feb 2020?

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                                                Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                                                The HubPages Newspaper also will become an additional source of income for both HubPages and hubbers.

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                                                   theraggededgeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                                                   How?
                                                   
                                                   It won't make any money. Because, like I described in my other post, anyone can save/print anything for free. Why would you pay for something you can get for free and you can collate for yourself with a few clicks.
                                                   
                                                   Explain.

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                                       Miebakagh57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                                       I think the readership of newspapers is decreasing in favour of the digital plaform.                               Many nowadays prefer to read and research online, except when in a public library.

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   Miebakagh57posted 2 years ago

   So far, so good.                                                               I would like to have my own say of this school boy/girl argument.                                     I recalled here when I was in my last year(class 5) in secondary grammar school, the English head teacher, ask the class to make a sentense with word advertisement. And I said: "Newspapers makes a lot of profits by advertisement." Back then, it was true. But nowadays profit can be low or zig-zaging due to competition from web ads, tv, mobile platform.                                                              It is of interest to note that in certain remote rural area or villages, the horse carriage, the donkey cart and the like are still significant in the peoples lives. Exception to this is lordly palace where a king or queen hold rule. And Because we've brought up mostly in the cities we hardly remember.                                                         Seriously, the print media began in clay form.

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      Miebakagh57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      What made You and I think it can be stamp out?

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   theraggededgeposted 2 years ago

   So, instead of looking backwards, look to the future. The problem already with many specialist digital editions that they don't make much money. Because most platforms are clunky, advertisers are put off. And readers aren't best pleased if, having paid for a digital download/access, it's full of intrusive ads. So you need to think differently.
   
   You have to look around and see what's available. What platforms are they using? Would it be better as a website, a pdf, a magazine platform (whatever it is they use)? How much? Etc. etc. How will you market it? Who will run it - the editors haven't got time to do it. You have to think and cost all these factors in.

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    Rupert Taylorposted 2 years ago

    I'm here with the definitive answer to the HubPagesNewspaper/Race Horses/Das conundrum.
    
    If you feed rutabagas to race horses, the animals produce a dung that is excellent for turning into newsprint- lots of fibre don't you know. It provides the perfect medium for printing what passes for journalism these days; I'm thinking here of any outlet owned by Rupert Murdoch.
    
    There's an added and totally unexpected bonus. Once printed, the newspapers deliver themselves.
    
    Not a lot of people know this.

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       theraggededgeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

       That's the way
       
       Talking of crap in the media, I just read a sentence in a UK paper (it may be a Murdoch 'asset') - it ended, "... as the light grew darker."
       
       I had to exit quickly. Thank goodness for the X button.

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       Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

       I found a lot of logic in your response.

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    PaulGoodman67posted 2 years ago

    I would summarize the idea of a print newspaper version of HP, in my blunt Northern English style, as being "daft".

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       Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

       Inventive.

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       DrMark1961posted 2 years agoin reply to this

       Or, in internet-speak, "Das".
       This reeks of one of his threads.

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          theraggededgeposted 2 years agoin reply to this

          For sure.
          
          Maybe I'll get a nice little fan-mail message at some point.

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    NateB11posted 2 years ago

    It's good to remember Playboy, the behemoth, gave up on it's print magazine and started going digital. At least last I heard. Print is no longer the thing. Maybe at some point there will be some retro nostalgic trend of getting into print magazines but it probably won't involve Maven and Hubpages.

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       Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

       I've just returned here after a brief search: You're correct! Playboy is no longer publishing its print version of the magazine.
       
       But they are not publishing any digital eBook version of the magazine either.

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          Miebakagh57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

          Playboy gone with the wind? OMG!

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             Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

             That seems to be the case. It's a defunct magazine now.

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    Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years ago

    @Misbah:
    
    The article "The HubPages Newspaper" is having some issues, and it has been unpublished by HubPages, the status of publication of the article is pending. The fault is from my side. I directly copied some portions of writing from those websites that I linked in the article, without any modification. So the copied~content detection system on HubPages detected my article as being copied.
    
    I'm rewriting the entire article. It will be republished today (if not today, then tomorrow certainly).
    
    I thank you here for commenting on the previous article. You're a kind spirit. I hope you'll understand my situation. Thank you again.

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       Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

       Thanks a lot for giving me a call here, Tanmoy
       I was suspecting it is maybe an issue about a duplicate content. It is normal but having a continuous duplication can lead to a ban. So be careful and check it before publishing it. When you didn’t reply back, I was thinking, you might have mind me asking about that article or maybe you were busy because of Holi. Well no worries. I am glad you will be publishing it back
       Much Gratitude
       Blessings always

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          Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

          I've just republished that article. This time, all of the content is my own. I am just too lazy, so I fell into a marvelous trap. I shall be more cautious next time. This is my first attempt at a prose hub after all.
          
          Thank you, kind regards and gratitude from my side also, and blessings.

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             Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

             It happens, I understand, happened with me on my original content, sometimes even original content can get plagiarized elsewhere be careful to check it with the website I mentioned before, there are plenty more but I use that one, it's reliable.
             I am glad that you gave it a try, nobody is perfect and of course we learn from trials and errors. To err is human, right?
             Be happy and You can do it! Stay positive, remember positive vibes! I am very sure, it will be gonna fine this time
             I can see it's published now
             Peace and Blessings

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                Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                Peace and Blessing to you too.

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