The HubPages Newspaper

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  1. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
    Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months ago

    https://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/15473663.jpg
    HubPages has grown so much, that we need a cataloging service to compartmentalize and simplify this incredible growth. How about a newspaper? This does not have to be a daily newspaper — it could be a weekly, or a monthly newspaper.

    This newspaper will host the best of HubPages (ie., poetry, short stories, articles, science fiction, travel blogs, tech tips, etc), and also include new lists of interesting websites, youtube channels, youtube videos (e.g., Marques Brownlee, iJustine, etc), noteworthy tweets, etc.

    All newspapers are drafted in a way that the stories cover the entirety of the news-page. Our HubPages Newspaper will a rebel in this field: it will only publish as much news~content as it is generated genuinely (not with the intention to fill up the page) — the stories will end up crisscrossing the news-page; the rest of the page will be filled with interesting, matching, and aesthetically pleasing vector graphics arts.

    The HubPages Newspaper, apart from its physically printed publication, will be released with its digital version as well. The HubPages Editors will curate them.

    Maven already publishes (physically printed) magazines — why not a newspaper?

    1. OldRoses profile image95
      OldRosesposted 14 months agoin reply to this

      How would "lists of interesting websites, youtube (sic) channels, youtube videos" which are our competitors benefit authors on HubPages?  That's like your local bookstore advertising Amazon.

      1. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
        Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

        YouTube is a Google product. Google and Maven are friends.

        1. OldRoses profile image95
          OldRosesposted 14 months agoin reply to this

          Being "friends" has nothing to do with it.  Obviously you don't understand the economics of the situation.

    2. Miebakagh57 profile image69
      Miebakagh57posted 14 months agoin reply to this

      I don't think that is necesary. Are writers here having a choice to publish on hubpages or hubpages newspaper?

      1. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
        Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

        The best writings and contents from HubPages will be selected for the HubPages Newspaper.

        1. Miebakagh57 profile image69
          Miebakagh57posted 14 months agoin reply to this

          Hey there, who does the selection? Some of us writers kind of better than certain editors at hubpages, right?

          1. Misbah786 profile image86
            Misbah786posted 14 months agoin reply to this

            Of course, he is talking about HubPages will do the selection smile

            Well, the platform knows better if the writers are better or the editors... smile

            I have seen many good writers here, no doubts

            Of course HP knows who is capable and who is not... They are the ones who gave us the platform to write so obviously they know about their betterment smile

            They know how they have to make a team for selecting articles smile

            I think, Editors help us to move many of our articles to network site and help us to grow even better smile

            Peace and Blessings smile

        2. Miebakagh57 profile image69
          Miebakagh57posted 14 months agoin reply to this

          Who will make the selection? Some of us writers kind of better than editor at hubpages, right?

          1. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
            Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

            The Editors at HubPages will do the selection.

            Peace! smile

            1. Misbah786 profile image86
              Misbah786posted 14 months agoin reply to this

              smile

            2. Miebakagh57 profile image69
              Miebakagh57posted 14 months agoin reply to this

              Bingo!

    3. tsmog profile image79
      tsmogposted 14 months agoin reply to this

      Newspapers are funded by advertisers. What would attract advertisers? A venture capitalist would want to know that before investing in the startup cost. They want to make money.

      1. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
        Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

        An all-new Amazon Alexa Echo Show 10 device was recently (a few days ago) released. Here is the YouTuber iJustine displaying the device: https://youtu.be/qXOYAyXba5M.

        This could be the front-page story of our newspaper. We shall earn money from Amazon.

        There are tons of ways to make money out of the HubPages Newspaper. We have to be inventive about it.

        1. tsmog profile image79
          tsmogposted 14 months agoin reply to this

          What I suggest is to use the feedback from here and use it with your idea, purpose, and business model. Then research start-up costs followed by financial operating costs, e.g. salaries, payments to writers, print costs or web site maintence, etc. Determine resources such as advertising and subscriptions. Then write a hub on it.

          1. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
            Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

            That is a wonderful suggestion. I shall definitely give it a try. I may not immediately write it, but I am keeping it in my list. Thank you very much.

          2. theraggededge profile image96
            theraggededgeposted 14 months agoin reply to this

            Yep. Logistics, export, distributors in each country. Together with expected advertising revenue and income from projected sales. Then don't forget to set a retail price.

            Good luck with all that big_smile

            1. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
              Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

              Maven/HubPages may start the newspaper in the San Francisco area first.

          3. Misbah786 profile image86
            Misbah786posted 14 months agoin reply to this

            Yes Tanmoy
            Go for this
            Tsmog gave a nice idea smile

            Blessings and Kind regards

            1. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
              Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

              I shall try to get the hub done by the end of the next week. Yes, Mr. Mitchell's (tsmog) idea is excellent.

              [I can not promise though that the hub will be very detailed or thorough. I'm a poet after all!]

              Kind regards and blessings to you too. smile

              1. Misbah786 profile image86
                Misbah786posted 14 months agoin reply to this

                Tanmoy, I know poets can do wonders
                Kind regards wink smile

                1. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
                  Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

                  smile

  2. Jan Saints profile image89
    Jan Saintsposted 14 months ago

    I have thinking about the digital version i.e, a network site that publishes news. I know news is not ever-green but it really attracts a large traffic in a short time.

    1. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
      Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

      That could be also there, an additional service.

    2. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
      Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

      In case you're interested, Maven operates several news related assets. Here is one:

      Pacific Standard

      1. Jan Saints profile image89
        Jan Saintsposted 14 months agoin reply to this

        Ooh cool

      2. Misbah786 profile image86
        Misbah786posted 14 months agoin reply to this

        It's a nice idea but
        I don't know much about all this smile

        Wikipedia says Pacific Standard was to close after its primary funder abruptly cut off all funding.
        Founded in 2008, the magazine was published in print and online for its first ten years until production of the print edition ceased in 2018 smile

        Blessings smile

        1. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
          Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

          Yes, Rupert Taylor already mentioned this trend on this forum thread. I quote him (the original text is found just below this post):

          I case you haven't noticed, one in five newspapers in the United States has gone out of business in the last 15 years. The story is the same the world over; the newspaper and magazine industries are dying.

          As always, blessings to you too. smile

          1. Misbah786 profile image86
            Misbah786posted 14 months agoin reply to this

            Oh! sorry I didn't notice smile

            1. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
              Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

              It's okay. Peace! smile

        2. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
          Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

          Maven is a juggernaut. I've heard it operates 250+ assets. One of these assets is MTO News. Unlike Pacific Standard (which has been archived), this one is up and running.

          1. Misbah786 profile image86
            Misbah786posted 14 months agoin reply to this
            1. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
              Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

              I briefly checked these two forum threads. Thank you for bringing them to our attention.

              Those discussions took place two years ago. MTO News has definitely improved since. The central theme of the asset is quite sensitive (it borders on the issue of racism), hence the contents of the asset carries that smell.

              1. Misbah786 profile image86
                Misbah786posted 14 months agoin reply to this

                My Pleasure smile

                1. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
                  Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

                  smile

        3. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
          Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this
        4. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
          Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

          I've finally found out (Thanks to Glenn Stok) an indexed list of all the assets operated by Maven. Here it is:

          https://maven.io/company/pages/list-of- … tN6wVZnMZw

          1. Misbah786 profile image86
            Misbah786posted 14 months agoin reply to this

            I am glad you found it out smile
            Blessings

            1. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
              Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

              smile

  3. Rupert Taylor profile image97
    Rupert Taylorposted 14 months ago

    I case you haven't noticed, one in five newspapers in the United States has gone out of business in the last 15 years. The story is the same the world over; the newspaper and magazine industries are dying. Suggesting Maven prints a newspaper would be like opening up a business making harnesses for horses just as the first Model Ts came off the production line.

    1. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
      Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

      Thank you for your response. I like it. But I think horse racing will never go out of business completely.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jockey

  4. FatFreddysCat profile image95
    FatFreddysCatposted 14 months ago

    Can confirm. Source: 25+ years of working in the newspaper industry.

  5. Brenda Arledge profile image83
    Brenda Arledgeposted 14 months ago

    Be nice for them to feature writers in their magazine

    1. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
      Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

      "It's pleasant, sure, to see one's name in print."

      — Lord Byron

  6. theraggededge profile image96
    theraggededgeposted 14 months ago

    This thread is big_smile big_smile big_smile

    1. Misbah786 profile image86
      Misbah786posted 14 months agoin reply to this

      Bev is here finally smile
      I think we really need your opinion smile

      1. theraggededge profile image96
        theraggededgeposted 14 months agoin reply to this

        I have no opinion on this, other than print news is as dead as a dodo.

        1. NateB11 profile image91
          NateB11posted 14 months agoin reply to this

          lol And television news is on the way out too, I think.

          1. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
            Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

            That's equal to saying that Sony PlayStation and Microsoft Xbox (and also Netflix!) are on the way out, too.

            1. theraggededge profile image96
              theraggededgeposted 14 months agoin reply to this

              Again, you are incorrect. The demographics for regular live TV broadcasts are changing. Older people watch TV but younger audiences prefer their entertainment on demand. Viewing figures for regular live news broadcasts are declining in the west; they are in the UK anyway.

              https://www.simulmedia.com/assets/media … search.pdf

        2. DrMark1961 profile image97
          DrMark1961posted 14 months agoin reply to this

          Good for a laugh this morning though. I especially enjoyed Rupert´s example. (My great-grandfather invested in an ice factory, just before the time when every household started buying a fridge. How is that for long-term thinking?)

  7. psycheskinner profile image83
    psycheskinnerposted 14 months ago

    Maven is a rapidly expanding company with questionable profitability.  The last thing they need to do is create an unfocused product using obsolete and expensive technology.

    1. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
      Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

      Newspapers are "obsolete" (and "expensive")? That's like saying horses are obsolete and expensive, because no one uses them any longer.

      Horses might indeed be a bit expensive to maintain. But they are valuable sports apparatus.

      When one is a rapidly expanding company with questionable profitability — one of the most profound moves to make might be to invest into some pioneering activity.

      1. theraggededge profile image96
        theraggededgeposted 14 months agoin reply to this

        No, it isn't. Your analogy does not make sense. The initial and ongoing costs of setting up a print publication don't make it worthwhile for a digital platform.

        Where will it be sold? Which country/ies? HubPages and Maven reach a global audience. What about print and distribution costs? It is simply not viable.

        No one is saying horses are obsolete... but horse-drawn transport and machinery is.

        1. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
          Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

          You make some excellent points here. However, horse-racing is something eternal. It will continue to exist as long as humanity exist. If it weren't so, all the libraries and museums in the world would have gone 100% digital.

          1. theraggededge profile image96
            theraggededgeposted 14 months agoin reply to this

            Again... not horse-racing; horse-powered vehicles for transport, agriculture, and industry. Obsolete. Newsprint is headed the same way. It's too slow, too expensive, and doesn't attract advertising like it used to.

            https://www.independent.co.uk/news/medi … 69736.html

            1. Misbah786 profile image86
              Misbah786posted 14 months agoin reply to this

              Bev made some valid points here smile
              Blessings smile

            2. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
              Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

              The newspaper industry (worldwide) has its basis in the principles of horse~racing.

              1. theraggededge profile image96
                theraggededgeposted 14 months agoin reply to this

                Right, if you say so roll

                1. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
                  Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

                  People love to hold something real, something substantial in their hands. That's why newspapers exist. That should not be so difficult to understand.

        2. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
          Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

          The No. 1 company in the world that makes newspaper machinery/printer is manroland Goss. But there are tons of much cheaper alternatives out there. For example, people in the less affluent countries also read newspaper. These newspapers obviously can not spend money on a manroland Goss product. They buy local alternatives.

          Newspapers are something eternal. They will continue to exist.

          1. Misbah786 profile image86
            Misbah786posted 14 months agoin reply to this

            What a debate...
            I don't have much to say but I am enjoying it smile
            Blessings smile

            1. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
              Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

              smile

          2. theraggededge profile image96
            theraggededgeposted 14 months agoin reply to this

            They may well do, but why would Maven enter an already declining market?

            It goes against logic and common sense, Das.

        3. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
          Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

          Where will it be sold? Which country/ies? HubPages and Maven reach a global audience. What about print and distribution costs? It is simply not viable.

          I do not live in Los Angeles. I live in Bengal. However, I know that there exists a newspaper in Los Angeles called Los Angeles Times. I can access it from anywhere. I can print it anytime I wish.

          https://enewspaper.latimes.com/desktop/ … 6bf740270e

          1. theraggededge profile image96
            theraggededgeposted 14 months agoin reply to this

            https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/uk-natio … isruption/

            Printing it yourself is not the same as a company producing a print-based newspaper. No one prints out a whole newspaper unless for a very specific reason.

            Edit: therefore you are accessing a digital edition, yes?

            1. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
              Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

              That above link is the digital edition of today's Los Angeles Times newspaper.

              1. theraggededge profile image96
                theraggededgeposted 14 months agoin reply to this

                Quod erat demonstrandum.

                You just made my argument for me.

                1. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
                  Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

                  I don't live in Los Angeles.

                  1. theraggededge profile image96
                    theraggededgeposted 14 months agoin reply to this

                    Precisely.

  8. Miebakagh57 profile image69
    Miebakagh57posted 14 months ago

    So far, so good.                                                               I would like to have my own say of this school boy/girl argument.                                     I recalled here when I was in my last year(class 5) in secondary grammar school, the English head teacher, ask the class to make a sentense with word advertisement. And I said: "Newspapers makes a lot of profits by advertisement." Back then, it was true. But nowadays profit can be low or zig-zaging due to competition from web ads, tv, mobile platform.                                                              It is of interest to note that in certain remote rural area or villages, the horse carriage, the donkey cart and the like are still significant in the peoples lives. Exception to this is lordly palace where a king or queen hold rule. And Because we've brought up mostly in the cities we hardly remember.                                                         Seriously, the print media began in clay form.

    1. Miebakagh57 profile image69
      Miebakagh57posted 14 months agoin reply to this

      What made You and I think it can be stamp out?

  9. theraggededge profile image96
    theraggededgeposted 14 months ago

    So, instead of looking backwards, look to the future. The problem already with many specialist digital editions that they don't make much money. Because most platforms are clunky, advertisers are put off. And readers aren't best pleased if, having paid for a digital download/access, it's full of intrusive ads. So you need to think differently.

    You have to look around and see what's available. What platforms are they using? Would it be better as a website, a pdf, a magazine platform (whatever it is they use)? How much? Etc. etc. How will you market it? Who will run it - the editors haven't got time to do it. You have to think and cost all these factors in.

  10. Rupert Taylor profile image97
    Rupert Taylorposted 14 months ago

    I'm here with the definitive answer to the HubPagesNewspaper/Race Horses/Das conundrum.

    If you feed rutabagas to race horses, the animals produce a dung that is excellent for turning into newsprint- lots of fibre don't you know. It provides the perfect medium for printing what passes for journalism these days; I'm thinking here of any outlet owned by Rupert Murdoch.

    There's an added and totally unexpected bonus. Once printed, the newspapers deliver themselves.

    Not a lot of people know this.

    1. theraggededge profile image96
      theraggededgeposted 14 months agoin reply to this

      That's the way big_smile

      Talking of crap in the media, I just read a sentence in a UK paper (it may be a Murdoch 'asset') - it ended, "... as the light grew darker."

      I had to exit quickly. Thank goodness for the X button.

    2. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
      Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

      I found a lot of logic in your response.

  11. PaulGoodman67 profile image96
    PaulGoodman67posted 14 months ago

    I would summarize the idea of a print newspaper version of HP, in my blunt Northern English style, as being "daft".

    1. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
      Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

      Inventive.

    2. DrMark1961 profile image97
      DrMark1961posted 14 months agoin reply to this

      Or, in internet-speak, "Das".
      This reeks of one of his threads.

      1. theraggededge profile image96
        theraggededgeposted 14 months agoin reply to this

        For sure.

        Maybe I'll get a nice little fan-mail message at some point.

  12. NateB11 profile image91
    NateB11posted 14 months ago

    It's good to remember Playboy, the behemoth, gave up on it's print magazine and started going digital. At least last I heard. Print is no longer the thing. Maybe at some point there will be some retro nostalgic trend of getting into print magazines but it probably won't involve Maven and Hubpages.

    1. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
      Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

      I've just returned here after a brief search: You're correct! Playboy is no longer publishing its print version of the magazine.

      But they are not publishing any digital eBook version of the magazine either.

      1. Miebakagh57 profile image69
        Miebakagh57posted 14 months agoin reply to this

        Playboy gone with the wind? OMG!

        1. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
          Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

          That seems to be the case. It's a defunct magazine now.

  13. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
    Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months ago

    @Misbah:

    The article "The HubPages Newspaper" is having some issues, and it has been unpublished by HubPages, the status of publication of the article is pending. The fault is from my side. I directly copied some portions of writing from those websites that I linked in the article, without any modification. So the copied~content detection system on HubPages detected my article as being copied.

    I'm rewriting the entire article. It will be republished today (if not today, then tomorrow certainly).

    I thank you here for commenting on the previous article. You're a kind spirit. I hope you'll understand my situation. Thank you again. smile

    1. Misbah786 profile image86
      Misbah786posted 14 months agoin reply to this

      Thanks a lot for giving me a call here, Tanmoy
      I was suspecting it is maybe an issue about a duplicate content. It is normal but having a continuous duplication can lead to a ban. So be careful and check it before publishing it. When you didn’t reply back, I was thinking, you might have mind me asking about that article or maybe you were busy because of Holi. Well no worries. I am glad you will be publishing it back
      Much Gratitude
      Blessings always smile

      1. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
        Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

        I've just republished that article. This time, all of the content is my own. I am just too lazy, so I fell into a marvelous trap. I shall be more cautious next time. This is my first attempt at a prose hub after all.

        Thank you, kind regards and gratitude from my side also, and blessings. smile

        1. Misbah786 profile image86
          Misbah786posted 14 months agoin reply to this

          It happens, I understand, happened with me on my original content, sometimes even original content can get plagiarized elsewhere be careful to check it with the website I mentioned before, there are plenty more but I use that one, it's reliable.
          I am glad that you gave it a try, nobody is perfect and of course we learn from trials and errors. To err is human, right? smile
          Be happy and You can do it! Stay positive, remember positive vibes! I am very sure, it will be gonna fine this time smile
          I can see it's published now
          Peace and Blessings smile

          1. Tanmoy Acharya 100 profile image68
            Tanmoy Acharya 100posted 14 months agoin reply to this

            Peace and Blessing to you too. smile

 
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