Pro-Lifers and Gay Bashers

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defenestratethisposted 13 years ago
What would the world be like if everyone was heterosexual and ALL pregnancies were brought to term? Ive always wondered... if abortion and homosexuality were somehow banished from our society in order to appease the 'fundalmentalists', would this create the rightous world they desire? Any thoughts?
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  tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  An over populated righteous world
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  It would be a better world, yes.
  Maybe then we could focus more on curing diseases and helping each other with the things that naturally happen, instead of fighting the attempts to make immorality lawful.
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  Stevennix2001posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  ummm...to be honest, even if you did manage to resolve those issues, you'd still have a society filled with problems. NO SOCIETY in world history existed without having some flaws within their system. Therefore, it shows you that even throughout history, no matter what form of government or customs you choose to follow, there's always going to be flaws. Therefore, even if you did resolve all this, people are still going to find things to complain about it.
  
  Seriously, the only government I ever saw that was perfect, was on Star Trek. Where it showed various cultures working together for the common good, while EVERYONE worked for no money or compensation. In their world, people only do things and excel at careers because that's what they want to do. No money or praise involved. However, you want to know the flaw in that society? It's not real. If it was, then we'd all be happy. however, it's not.
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sneakorocksolidposted 13 years ago
You type well for a faux-bear but you need some help with that moral compass.
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Ohmaposted 13 years ago
I read your profile. It seems like you would have a lot to right about why settle on this.
By the way I am not against homosexuality but I do believe that abortion is absolutely wrong unless there is a crime associated with the pregnancy I guess that makes me half a Fundalmentalist.
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  defenestratethisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Well guys, Im new here and just wanted to pose a theoretical question...but uh, thanks for the input. You know..Ohma, Im kinda shy about getting started so I figured Id try something like this for beginners, then gradually delve into something deeper and more involved. As for your remark sneak, my moral compass is my own business. Ive always been the sensitive type, which has proven to be a serious handicap in the past, as Ive tended to take things personally. But I wont do that here...I know that folks often forget their manners when in front of a keyboard..say things they wouldnt in person. Deep down I guess we all long to be accepted and belong, dont we? With that in mind, maybe each of us should consider who's on the other end of that screen, and what their situation might be, before making judgements.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Sorry forgive me I forgot killing babies and diviate sex is something to aspire to.
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  defenestratethisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  No you forgot that not everyones 'moral compass' jives with your own. And that its not up to you to decide when it needs help. Its up to the individual.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  So you say sodomy is something we should teach in schools? And if you get pregnant it's ok to flush it away like nothing happened?
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  As soon as you get pregnant, you can decide for yourself. You may engage in whatever sex acts you wish with any consenting adult humans.
  
  Don't post pictures.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Oh how liberal of you.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  OK, and sheep if you must.
  
  Hmmmm, I think we're getting to the root of your hostility.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Does the baby get a say as well?
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  If there were a baby involved, it would have the full protection of the law, but no say. Since there is no baby involved, your point is moot.
  
  Medical science, Constitutional law and just plain common sense support this position. You may refute with mythology to your heart's content.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Oh well since they're nothing I guess that means we're nothing. So then our opinions just don't matter then do they? Lets break out the mob rules! Death to babies and death to Christians, Hmmm, this almost sounds kind of islamic.Yikes!
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  defenestratethisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Youre making assumptions again, and somewhat hysterical ones at that. I am for abortion and I have nothing against gay sex..and in my private musings Ive wondered what the world would be like without them..thats all. As for sodomy, whatever two consenting adult humans do in the privacy of their home is none of my business. Abortions? An unfortunate neccessity in this world. Dont think they should be used as birth control, dont beleive in the partial birth ones...but I do think they should remain legalized.
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  Cly Walshposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  What's wrong with oral sex?
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  defenestratethisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  And frankly I dont get your sarcasm, Ive not been rude to you. Is it your Faith that compels you talk this way, or is it fear? Do you suffer from low self esteem, or in the words of Malcom X, " Willfull Ignorance " ? Its possible to debate an issue without resorting to the tactics youve used.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  No, this how I have fun in the forumns. You need to lighten up or you'll hate it. Stay away from the politics and religious threads this is how we roll.
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  Niteriterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I like sneako. I've been reading your Hubs; where's your ammo tonight?
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I'm just being a pest!
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  Niteriterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You're one of the nicest pests around here. Have a good night.
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  mega1posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  of course, you are speaking only for yourself, sneak, and possibly 2 or 3 other radical right
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  defenestratethisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  OK gotcha sneakmeister, Ill be sure to put up my splatter guard when I see ya coming
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  defenestratethisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Take a quick view of this song, sneak and ohma. Its very funny, with a great message, and sung so sweetly by a beautiful girl. It pretty much epitimizes my feelings right now. The link is right below can ya tell im new at all this computer stuff?
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  defenestratethisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WUD-nhsmkw
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  defenestratethisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Ok sneak..ya say thats how we role in this arena , well thats cool. I just gotta get used to it and not be so-overly sensitive. As for your o-so-condescending remark Ohma? I get it now....so im gona stop being a crybaby from now on, and Im gona throw shit right back at ya when the need arises. In the meantime, youd be doin me a big favor if you clicked on this link above...it pretty much speaks for itself.
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  Niteriterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You don't need to pick on sneako; he's alright. There are lots of forum debaters who shoot the messenger before they've heard the message.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks! Just mess'in around!
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  defenestratethisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Good to know Niteriter, Ill keep that in mind.
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  Pandoras Boxposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Here's what I don't get Ohma. If it's murder when it's not rape, why is it justified when it is? The baby didn't do anything wrong, right?
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Denno66posted 13 years ago
Oh boy.
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Denno66posted 13 years ago
Again. Oh boy.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I heard many homo-abortionists have a thing for sheep.
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  Denno66posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Perish the thought.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  What the heck does that mean, Ron?
  
  Are you saying what I think you're saying?
  
  Actually, are you saying what it sounds like you're saying?
  
  I really want to know, because I'm preeety teed off if that's what you're saying.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I read something about lions lying with lambs somewhere in a bible.
  
  Translation?
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I'm just taking Christian fundamentalist hate thought to it's logical conclusion. Homosexuality and reproductive choice lead to beastiality.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You and any type of thought you might have should be left out of any serious discussion!
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Serious discussion? Was there a serious discussion somewhere?
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  defenestratethisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Uhh sneak, didnt you just call me a faux bear with a faulty moral compass? Is that how you defend your beliefs, with sarcasm, petty insults, and thinly veiled anatagonism when engaged in a -as you like to call it- A Serious Discussion?
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Anyone willing to promote sodomy and/or defend it is a few sandwiches short of a picnic. How could any compassionate person stand by and let our babies be killed? You're promting death sentence for the most innocent! Hell, you don't even know what you're saying. I'm very sorry for you.
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  Colebabieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Plenty of straight people have anal sex. And plenty of homosexuals do not.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks Cole I needed that!
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  Colebabieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Just stating the truth. Your arguments don't make any sense to me. Sorry.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You would have to start with some to begin with! Youth is so wasted on the young!
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  Colebabieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Again, don't know what you're trying to say.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Pennies darling!
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  Colebabieposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah I'm going back to molecular biology. Have fun.
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tantrumposted 13 years ago
Defenesthratethis, Welcome to HP ! I do hope so !
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  defenestratethisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you Tamtrum, I really needed that
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AEvansposted 13 years ago
I am Pro-Life but not against homosexuality either, I do not believe that abortion should be used as birth control, however there are some circumstances that I believe an abortion should be allowed but it is certainly not because someone wants to get rid of a pregnancy because they were to lazy to use birth control, just my opinion.
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  IzzyMposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  One of the few sensible replies in this whole thread AEvans, IMO, and thanks for it.
  
  It's obviously personal opinion, everyone has their views, but to me abortion is murder and there has to be a damned good reason for it.
  In the UK, the law states that abortion may be carried out in women less than 24 weeks pregnant, unless the mental or physical health of the mother is at risk.
  Unfortunately the 'mental' part of the wording is where abortions get carried out on demand. Two doctors have to sign to say the mother would suffer severe mental consequences, and usually the second doctor does not even see the mother!
  A doctor was struck off just last week for arranging for her daughter to go to the continent for an abortion at 32 weeks! That is criminal!
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Dame Scribeposted 13 years ago
Are you talkin about the sacrificial sheep lol
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Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years ago
I wonder; if a fetus could be tested in such a way that we knew it would grow up to be a flaming queer, would it be OK to go ahead and abort it to spare it a life of sin and suffering?

WWJD?
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  AEvansposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Not abort it and no it can't be tested that is WHAT JESUS WOULD DO!
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Jesus would call you to accountability for your nasty accusations toward His people, that's what He would do.
  
  And if you don't stop acting like a total jerk, I will too.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I'm not one of his people? Damn! And I bought his CD, book, and breakfast cereal....
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  Denno66posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  He has a breakfast cereal now?
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, you've never had rapture flakes?
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  Denno66posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  No, but I've heard of Frosted Right-wing nuts.
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  defenestratethisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
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  tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  It works miracles !
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  They're great with sheep's milk.
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  Denno66posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Amen.
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  tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Oh you're just so innocent!
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  tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Nobody's innocent here. Not even the ones that should !
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  Niteriterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Sneako just gave you an opportunity to regain your innocence.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You're right we're all guilty of defending our perspective on life. How you doing?
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  My question obviously struck a nerve. Actually thinking through your hatefulness makes you a bit less comfortable with it.
  
  Good.
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Denno66posted 13 years ago
So, then I get to keep my hide?
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Not if I have anything to say about it.
  
  I'm sick and tired of conservatives including myself being attacked and mocked because WE actually hold to a sense of right and wrong.
  
  Free speech is one thing. But I draw the line at certain things. I'm royally teed off and ain't afraid to say so.
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  Denno66posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Why thank you for erroneously labeling me a Liberal. It's not the sense of right or wrong that draws fire from some, oh, no wait, that's exactly it.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  This'll be good! What do you think is right and what do you think is wrong?
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  Denno66posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Right is leaving other people alone. Wrong is not leaving other people alone. That was fun!
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Sounds like a great idea don't spew liberal nonsense and we won't bother you. You can defend your position and I will defend mine that would be called free speach! Now wasn't that fun!
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  Niteriterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  What is liberal nonsense? I need to know so I won't accidentally spill any.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I think it's a sin to spill it on the ground.
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  Niteriterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Is spewing liberal nonsense the same as casting your seed?
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I'm going to start using those terms interchangeably.
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  Pandoras Boxposted 13 years agoin reply to this
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  Denno66posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Hmm, I think you missed my point. I'll redirect. Me no Liberal. You no bash me. Me no care what you believe. Gosh, this really is so fun!!!
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I gave you too much credit, I'm sorry.
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  Denno66posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  No need to be sorry, you have J.C. in your corner.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I'm off to have some rapture flakes and then hopefully to spew some liberal nonsense in to my sock.
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  Denno66posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Ah, to aspire to greatness!
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  Niteriterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Ron now synonomizes spewing liberal nonsense with casting his seed on the ground... or in his sock.
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  Denno66posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  A good shot?
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  cheaptrickposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  "Every sperm is Sacred
  Evey sperm is Great
  If a sperm is Wasted
  God gets quite Irate"
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  "Your" sense of right is seriously flawed. You take a hateful interpretation of a single version of a collection of books and use it to harm others. You even threaten bodily harm to those who playfully disagree with you.
  
  Christian morals? You can keep them.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  No, you keep your nasty accusations and insinuations to yourself.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I didn't insinuate anything. I told you very directly what I think of narrow-minded bigots (more than once).
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Wouldn't that make you a narrow minded bigot? Your mind is not open to the way Brenda see's things and that causes your bias towards her.
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  AEvansposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Brenda just walk away that is what Jesus would do.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Done. After I said my piece.
  
  Time comes when a person has to do that.
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  AEvansposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  That is what he would do.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes indeed. Jesus was very non-confrontational and came to this world to uphold the status quo. There must be yet another version of "the" bible floating about.
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  AEvansposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I have that one , I wonder what so many others have? mmmmm..... ***sigh*** if only people would do what they should do, others would really listen.
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  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Gee Ron, where's the threat of bodily harm?
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Ohmaposted 13 years ago
here we go again
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AEvansposted 13 years ago
Really guys does everything have to be so extreme? **sigh** walk away, walk away and the Lord said, Amen.
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Brenda Durhamposted 13 years ago
This IS a serious discussion.

I'm seriously disgusted at your attacks on Christianity, Ron.

And now I'm leaving this thread to you, hopefully soon minus a few posts, if "right" is done by the moderators.

I hope they delete the entire thread, actually.

Enough is enough.
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  tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Why should they delete the entire thread ?
  Don't you have any respect for the OP?
  
  You're always messing around and then you blame others !
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  They love to bash people who believe differently than they do. Their enthusiasm wanes when the bashed defend themselves.
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  tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  It's so boring and so obvious !
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  defenestratethisposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Thankyou tamtrum
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Denno66posted 13 years ago
Some Coke-drinkers swear that R.C. Cola is the Anti-Christ.
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  Niteriterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I might vote for that.
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  Denno66posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  It is, at least, conceivable.
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  Niteriterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Maybe even palatable! Unlike some arguments.
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  Denno66posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Sadly, that may be too true.
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  Niteriterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Do you think the thread's been hijacked sufficiently to pass a joke or two?
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Denno66posted 13 years ago
sneako's a good sport all in all.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks! I love you all no mater your political persuation! Good night friends!
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mega1posted 13 years ago
been wanting to ask this for a while now - when y'all discuss this over and over and over and over and over - does anyone ever get converted to your side of the question(s)?
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  Stevennix2001posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  no, it never happens. at least i have yet to see it.
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mega1posted 13 years ago
have you sweet, nice, tender-hearted people ever heard of adrenaline-junkies?
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mega1posted 13 years ago
from wikipedia : Adrenaline junkie is a term used to describe somebody who appears to be addicted to epinephrine (endogenous) and such a person is sometimes described as getting a "high" from life. The term adrenaline junkie was popularly used in the 1991 movie Point Break to describe individuals who enjoyed dangerous activities (such as extreme sports) for the adrenaline "rush". Adrenaline junkies appear to favour stressful activities for the release of epinephrine as a stress response. Doing this may result in physical harm because of the potential danger. Whether or not the positive response is caused specifically by epinephrine is difficult to determine, as endorphins are also released during the fight-or-flight response to such activities.

I'm saying I've known several people who just love to get in an argument (any argument) just to get angered and adrenalized! fun fun fun!
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Alotaposted 13 years ago
I know plenty of Gay people who are anti-abortion, you seem to be trying to suggest that all homosexuals are pro-abortion, my experience is that many of my friends who are gay are anti-abortion, I think you need to get out and speak to people rather than make assumptions for a sizeable number of the population.
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Alotaposted 13 years ago
As you will see from my hub "Lesbian Love" I am not anti-gay
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