Is the bible against or okay with homosexuality?
I have read scripture that goes both ways (no pun intended!) and I am honestly confused. Can some please quote scripture that shows God is against homosexuality or okay with it. And is it okay (with God) that I view it as wrong? I try not to in a judgmental way. I know I should be reading the bible myself, I just have such a hard time finding what I am looking for.
It is true, ii3rittles, scripture goes both ways but the bible doesn't condemn nor condone either, the following is why.
Man have 2 genders, 4 ethnics, 12 Zodiac signs and 12 Western Zodiac signs multiplied together equals 150 different attributes every life-forces incarnates as individually and all combinations during our earthly sojourn. So when one life-force with one or any attribute combination comes to another their exact opposite there's a strong attraction both sexual and friendship that genders make difference and produces best friends, homosexuality and casual sex.
With that knowledge one is able to change both heterosexuality for pleasure and homosexuality if they so desire. Now that you know the cause it is up to you and/or the individuals doing either to make the necessary changes.
As far as I know the bible does not mention or condone the idea of ethnicity, nor signs of the zodiac. Given that, it cannot be a reason the text doesn't condemn or condone homosexuality, although there is a long list of verses almost universally taken as condemning the act.
Side note - you should not multiply those two numbers; the correct number of permutations is 12 to the 12th power. 8,916,100,448,256, or far more people that are living on earth. Perhaps that's why no two people are identical in all facets.
Only by symbols does the Bible present ethnics. The garden "eastward in Eden" makes the first of civilized man Asians, Cain in the Land of Nod the American natives, Esau in the sun are Africans and tent dwelling Jacob Europeans with Noah and his three sons being the same in that order.
The 12 tribes of Ishmael are the eastern Zodiac sings and Jacobs the Western Zodiac signs (read Gen. 49 and compare them with the zodiac signs Dan mean judge = Libra, Leo andJudah lions and Aquarius = Joseph are a few off the top of my head.
All man life-forces are not on earth at the same time, today's and the largest estimation is 10 billion for the 10 virgins to represent 10% of with only half actually surviving it. The others and the "dead in Christ" are in what Catholics call purgatory and comes in and out of civilization as needed, the dead in Christ (Rev. 6:9-11) are the 5% discarnated during this civilization's last termination (Rev. 14:13).
If one doesn't seek meanings for the Metaphors, Allegories, Parables and Symbol-types (MAPS) they can't understand the Bible nor any other source of prophecy.
Symbols and metaphors. That can be "interpreted" however one wishes. A great way to define the bible says whatever one wants it to, and a method that has been used for centuries to coerce believers into doing what the priesthood wanted them to.
And there is the intended interpretations for revealing the scriptures messages, when one learn to interpret one set they will see the meanings of the others will agree, only then does one know they have the correct interpretation. Work at it and see if you can get them to agree, I do.
Ah, but intended by whom? The priest that made up the original tale, or the tenth one to repeat it in song or chant? The intent of those at Nicea, who compiled and translated the millenia old tales, changing them to fit what they wanted, or those today who interpret to fit todays moral and ethical structures of the culture they live in?
As long as many states have gay marriage illegal. Then the religious is harming the ultimate love partners. Nothing is greater than Love, not even your kind of God.
1 Corinthians 6:9 says, "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders". There are other references to this in the bible. You can Google this.
Leviticus 18:22 says it is wrong, but since we are now under grace, Those rules don't apply. If all of those rules still applied, then we would still be stoning our children for disobedience or killing those who work on the sabbath. Jesus only gave two commandments under the New Covenant. Love your God with all your heart and Love your neighbor as yourself.
If you have a Bible, read Romans chaper 1. It's pretty clear. I also have a hub on this subject that goes into the aspect of judging homosexuals, the element of choice, and addresses the question of whether a practicing homosexual can also be a Christian. I wish I had written the hub as an answer to your question, but it's been published for awhile. I would leave the link here for you, but I think it's against HubPages' policy. I hope Romans 1 will give you the answers you seek.
My personal view is that the Bible can't be read as a lawbook or a recipe book, and that attempts to do so will not be helpful. Scholars tell us that it was written book by book over many centuries--heck, the Bible itself tells us that, since the Gospels quote the Old Testament at numerous places. And casual reading certainly provides food for tough thought: how to reconcile "An eye for an eye" with "Turn the other cheek?"
It's a perennial temptation to make the Bible (or some other inerrant source) our 'rulebook'; life would be simpler if we just knew for sure what the right answers were. Contradiction and uncertainty aren't much fun for most of us.
But if it's true that the Bible is God's word, it appears to me that we are not instructed to surrender responsibility to a frozen code--we are called on to decide with an open heart what is true and what is right, amidst confusing ambiguities and contradictions.
A quote? Well, as best as I can quote from memory:
"Love the Lord God with all your heart and mind, and your neighbor like yourself."
Sodomites [E] [S] (The inhabitants of Sodom, many of whom openly practiced homosexuality) Wickedness of Genesis 19:4-14 Destroyed by fire
Concordances - Nave's Topical Bible - Sodomites
This is the only reference I could find at the moment. In all the years - of Christianity - It was always considered taboo - not a good practice - frowned upon and immoral.
You have asked a valid question. I commend you for stepping up and asking such an honest question. Many people have their own opinion on this subject. Since you are asking what the Bible says, check out these verses.
Read Leviticus 18:22, 20:13; Romans 1:26-27, 1 Corinthians 6.
The Bible teaches, After the fall of man, it did not take long for gender issues to become confused. In Abraham’s day, homosexuality was widespread in some cities.
As Judah's Daughter suggested in her answer, I would recommend the same.
God loves everyone equally. I don't care if you're gay, straight, bi, pansexual, just whatever. His love will not change. It does say that homosexuality is an abomination, but there are plenty of verses about judging others as well so no one has the right to judge anyone for their sexual preferences unless they are perfect in every context of the word. I strongly believe that even though someone is a homosexual as long as they accept Jesus and love him then they will enter heaven. In summary...everyone has their vice, but no one should judge them for it. That's for God to do.
For the sake of saying so... I am not trying to offend homosexuals. Just because I think something is wrong doesn't make me right. I am trying to justify how the bible views homosexuality, not how I view it.
@ii3rittles, you've read the scriptures. Simply listen to the quiet, still voice, within.
In the meantime, consider these thoughts:
Is it okay to judge actions instead of people? Is it okay to judge murder, rape and theft? And can you judge those actions as bad, but still love the perpetrator?
Do you see the distinction, here? Love not evil, but love the person who may be lost in it.
With our own reawakening, we will no longer be attached to this physical world, but living in the spiritual world, even though our bodies may still be alive.
Those who are so attached to their bodies that they commit all manner of crimes of lust -- homosexuality, bestiality, sadism, masochism, adultery and the like -- these people will never live in the spirit. They are facing physicality rather than spirituality.
Those who profess to follow Christ but who continue to commit all manner of sin are not following Christ, but following ego--the master of this world. They are self-deluded, and that is a most painful state for our siblings to find themselves in.
The Bible is (or preaches against) homosexuality (Sodom and Gomorrah, and all that allegorical and proverbial poop) - and claims to possess and reveal the "truth" that God does as well.
That is why, unfortunately, in good conscience and intellectual integrity and authenticiy, I must and do therefore dismiss the Bible - despite MANY attempts (most in adulthood) to find wisdom and faith and strength within it - in many versions.
They all preach the same values of blind servitude, obedience to fleshly masters, hellfire and brimstone, and make moral judgments about things that have no moral value or consequence.
I've tried. The last time, I threw the thing across the room, LOUDLY let out a string of epithetic bombs, looked straight up, held my arms way out, scowled and said, either You or that book are full of shit.
I'm gonna say it's the man-made, man-written, man-manufactured, man-editted, man-translated, man-vulnerable and man-corruptible text that has contents so abominable in or out of context - they MUST be against and contradict a fair and loving (and living) God.
In the Old Testament it is pretty clear that homosexuality was not to be tolerated. However, in the New Testament, the references to homosexuality were done by Paul and other leaders of the early Christian church. It is not a surprise, with Christianity having its beginnings from Judaism, that homosexuality was not approved of. From my perspective, judgment can only come from God, and Jesus has said although you may have engaged in sinful ways in the past this does not prevent the sinner from coming home to God.
As has been covered by others, you are absolutely right to consider homosexuality to be a sin. Others have given biblical references to the passages directly dealing with the issue, but you asked if it is ok that you view it as wrong. Again, the Bible has the answer for that question-- "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness" Isaiah 5:20. If God has mandated something to be wrong, then you are always in the right, no matter what men may say. The Word of God is sufficient for every area of life.
That both the Old and New Testaments contain passages declaring homosexuality to be sinful is beyond beyond serious dispute despite numerous recent attempts to spin it away with creative interpretations. The references are already posted in answers here. The question is about that, not about the feelings or reactions of others toward it, or about whether or not scripture should be taken as an ethical guide. Those are different issues for different questions. This one is not difficult to resolve.
There is homosexuality in the bible, just as there is cannibalism and prostitution, but, non of these are condoned. I'm not sure what verses you are referring to, but if you were reading only one or two verses, I highly recommend you read the full chapter, and possibly the surrounding chapters, to get a full context of what that verse is talking about. Sodom and Gomorrah were obliterated for their corruption, including homosexuality. Many places in the Old Testament make in extremely clear God is strongly against the sin of homosexuality, calling it an abomination, with even death as a punishment. The New Testament very clearly states homosexuality as a sin that will prevent you from inheriting the Kingdom of God.
So...to answer your question, in the Bible, God is against homosexuality. It is okay to view it as wrong, but remember not to judge. Don't go Westboro Baptist on people...That's just ridiculous. We all fall short, no one is perfect. As my pastor says in speaking on Romans 12, "We are all equal at the foot of the cross." God is the ultimate judge, not people. We are called to love and to disciple...to prepare the Kingdom of God!
Oh! And I DEFINITELY understand those times you can't find what you're looking for!! I like to use http://www.openbible.info/topics/ in those times!
I hope this helps!!
Have a GREAT day!
1. God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah; homosexuality being one of the main reasons.
2. Christians do not believe in the New Testament but the Bible; Old Testament as well. There is something peculiar about the Bible that no man can challenge. It is the Word of God written by the very inspiration of God.
3. Most Christians believe in the Trinity (I do). Jesus came to fulfill the commandments and not abolish it. (Matthew 5:17)
4. Loving your neighbor as yourself and loving God with your all truly entails all the commandments in the Bible, not the Old or New Testament only.
5. while we are still sinners, God loves us. Truly when you hate someone, it is not the person you hate, it is either the good or evil in the person that you hate; depending on who you are.
I point all these out because I want all of us to analyze ourselves. All of us being descendants of Adam, know the good and bad. We do not need a word-for-word commandment before we know this and that is not good. If you love God with your all, you won't wish to anger Him by going against His commandments.
"And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it. "
(2 John 1:6 KJV)
But the Sodomites did and He wiped them off. Sometimes, we are just blinded not to know the good and bad. I leave you all with this favorite Bible verse of mine,
"There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death."
(Proverbs 16:25 KJV)
I mean we do sin deliberately sometimes but let us try not to sin to anger our Heavenly Father. Blessings.
The Holy Bible states that homosexuality is an abomination to Almighty God stating that it is wrong and sinful for man to lay with man, or woman with woman. This is what God told to Moses and the Israelites and it stands today.
The Bible is the Word of God. In the Bible God speaks against the homosexual activity of humans. These are are considered lewd acts. Its not the individual the Bible is speaking against,it is the behavior which is seen as is sinful. If the individual ends their life of homosexuality, then their chances of going to heaven after death increases substantially.
It depends whether or not your definition of certain scriptures in the bible are referring to physical sex or something else. Notice in the gospels that Jesus never condemned people for sex problems. If the apostles and prophets have different ideas than Jesus, then your understanding of the bible means that you believe they were all believing different things. It means that you have one set of rules for Jesus and another for the apostles. Jesus is also an apostle so if all you are reading the book of Romans and you believe that the apostle Paul is teaching something different from the Apostle Jesus then you have disunity among the apostles when they are actually in agreement but you won't know that if you listen to hateful people who manipulate scripture to promote hatred and discrimination. People who read the bible need to be very careful when they start condemning others who have a different sexual proclivity, especially when they are completely ignorant of what was going on in Sodom and Gomorrah. To judge people like many christians do is bringing judgement upon oneself because Romans 2:1 (You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things)
Those who need some help to find out just what was wrong with those places (Sodom and Gomorrah) ought to read the Book of Jasher (Book of the Righteous) You ought to stop following preachers and teachers who never really teach what the gospels teach or how Jesus treated others.
You should know that you personally have sexual problems and to deny this fact and condemn others for theirs is like putting yourself under judgement.
Leviticus 20:13, "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." 1Corinthians 6:9-10, KJV version "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." 1Corinthians 6:9-10, International Standard Version, "You know that wicked people will not inherit the kingdom of God, don't you? Stop deceiving yourselves! Sexually immoral people, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, homosexuals, thieves, greedy people, drunks, slanderers, and robbers will not inherit the kingdom of God."
Renee, When one realizes the Genesis 1 man lived like any other animal that statement also means what Adam and Eve did was an abomination and is why they mentally died and require the New Birth to become man that gives us life-everlasting. What they did is why we lives Temporal lives and that causes us to live the 2 genders, 4 ethnics and the 12 Eastern Zodiac signs multiplied by the 12 Western Zodiac signs equaling 150 different attributes every life-forces must incarnates as individually and all combinations during our earthly sojourn before we qualify to become reborn.
This question was asked seven years ago. The answer does not matter any more because God does not matter in this day and age. People do what they wish with no regard as to the consequences and the effects of what they do.
For instance, I do not think two people of the same sex should raise a child(ren).
I am brave to say this and many will not agree.
Yet, I give my opinion anyway.
Because I am entitled to my honest opinion even if it is not politically correct.
Would you prefer a orphan child have no parents throughout their entire childhood. Or have a child being raised by a more than qualified loving gay couple.?
... probably the latter. but it's not the ideal. The world is becoming stranger and stranger if you ask me ...
which, no one ...
KLH, honest opinions are only opinions if one has nothing to support them, that's why I present something to justify my reasonings, after all, thoughts unverified only muddies the water. Water represents knowledge's three stages, thoughts are water vapor, spoken is the liquid and the proof is frozen water; so before presenting the vapor, talking is rain, have some idea of what it will ultimately produce, Ice.
For instance, I feel sorry for children who had to watch the new Mary Poppins.
Enough of my opinion. I'll be gone for a while.
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