The Problem of Indian Women themed hubs

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   Lynda Garyposted 13 years ago

   You all know the hubs I'm referring to, right?  The hubs with pictures of beautiful women from India, Pakistan, etc., and a dozen or more links to sites for "the belly button" or whatnot?
   
   I flag these, either as low quality or adult -- but isn't there something that can be done to stop them from being submitted in the first place.  They are RAMPANT!
   
   Some of them, in fact, may not even technically fall under the category of "TOS Violation," but there is no doubt that these types of hubs were not what HP intended this site to be used for, is there?
   
   Likewise, the number of "spun" hubs -- articles run through one of those word-mixer-uppers, where someone who speaks broken English to begin with only makes matters worse by trying to spin an article for reuse?  They drive me batty!
   
   Why do I care? Because I spend a lot of time publishing here -- and this type of "free" publishing already has a bad enough reputation amongst "legitimate" writers (not my word; theirs).  To be further associated with a site "known for" the Indian "porn" and broken English spun articles is frustrating, to say the least.
   
   Okay ... I've vented.  But I still wish there were some way to reduce or eliminate this problem.  I don't even know how much it helps for me to spend a bit of time each week flagging these hubs via the Hopper.  Are they ever taken down, or am I wasting my time?  Any idea what the percentage is for the hubs that AREN'T caught and flagged?

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      relacheposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      There is, and you're doing it.  Please continue to do so. 
      
      I share your feelings, I flag like heck too, and I wish more people in the community cared enough to put in the effort to improve the place overall.

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      Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Photo Hubs are a legitimate use of HubPages and HP makes no judgment about those photos unless they're adult - which means nudity, not cleavage. 
      
      If they have multiple links to other sites, then they may be overly promotional - in which case, flag away.
      
      Otherwise, there's no point, and it's counter-productive because dealing with spurious flags chews up the HP Admin Team's time, which they could be using to find other junk.

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         Lynda Garyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         You don't mean the hubs filled with pics (not porn by any means) of Indian-looking women, do you?  Those always have a host of links after them pointing to what is likely porn (but I won't click on them).  I flag those.  If I'm wasting Admin's time, I'd like to know (because it means I'm also wasting my time.)
         
         What about the sites in broken English, the ones that appear to be spun? Where sentences make no sense, but there are SOME sections (usually the opening paragraph) that is written "correctly"?  I flag them.  Should I not?

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            relacheposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Hubs of garbled, nonsensical content should be flagged.  Those are substandard.

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            Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I just checked a few myself.  Maybe I was just lucky, but in each case the "host of links" led to other Hubs.  You can right- click on the link and select "properties" to see the URL it's pointing to, without going there.   
            
            If that's the case, they're not against TOS and there's no point reporting them.
            
            The broken English - yes, they should be flagged.

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   foreignpressposted 13 years ago

   There's nothing wrong with broken English nor is there a problem with Bollywood pics. This is a forum of international "adventurists," and broken English is a game attempt at reaching out to the English-speaking world. (Certain other nationalities make no effort to write or speak in English.)
      What I would like to see are photos of everyday life in India. For example, it would be fascinating to see -- photographically speaking -- of photos taken in the hubber's own city or village. This might incite many on HP to travel there.
      This is not the first time this complaint has been made. Admin. would have acted if the India pics were offensive.

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      relacheposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      When you flag a hub for admin to take a look, one of those options reads:
      
      If you see or read content that seems like it fits that definition, it should be flagged for admin to review.  HubPages would like to maintain a certain level of quality as search engines don't rank gibberish highly.

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   Maddie Ruudposted 13 years ago

   A few words of clarification:
   
   Any hubs that cannot easily be understood, either because they were fed through an article spinner, badly translated, or the author does not have a great enough grasp on the English language, should be flagged as substandard/low quality.
   
   Any hubs that consist purely of pictures of a lascivious nature should be flagged as adult.

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      Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Maddie, I think the problem is the definition of lascivious.  Pictures of attractive fully-dressed actresses wouldn't fall into that category, I imagine.

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         thranaxposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         A lot of people use lascivious pictures to help generate traffic to real written hubs and thats ok, so technically we make a double face saying they can't when we do. Although they do not add any words, I would think any hub with no text at all should be considered SUBSTANDARD and removed. There are many easy ways you can add text to a photo hub, hell I have personally for my Firefox Icon hub, its ~400 words, 50 pictures, and serves both standards of hubpages (well written and not just pictures). By not adding text, you show you dont care at all and are just rapidly uploading content.
         
         ~thranax~
         
         PS: Mines better looking then *cough*Indi*cough*au*cough*nts.

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   Denseposted 13 years ago

   Even as we speak, we are gaining popularity on the Indian sub-continent as an Indian bikini site to the delights of Indian uncles and teenagers everywhere.

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      Denseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Some of them are also very productive. It's is not unusual to see 400+ hubs or even more from posters there.
      Sometimes, I wonder if it's all the work of one guy under different accounts.
      And sometimes I wonder if they're making money from Adsense.
      They have to be, otherwise why the high number of posts?
      
      

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         relacheposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         From what those authors have said, they get a lot of traffic but don't earn very well at all.  Sadly, those authors haven't figured out that the audience that wants to just look at pictures does very little else interaction-wise.

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            Denseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            From what I see, alot of them look the same and I dare bet even the author will have a hard time telling one post from another.
            Maybe they could try variations like:
            Indian Aunty With Rolex
            Indian Celebrity Smoking In Public?
            How to find out what they said? Do they hang out around the forums here?

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               Denseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               I do have one hub like that but classier (or so I think ), need to corner one of these posters and ask what the daily pervert count is like.

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   ediggityposted 13 years ago

   These Indian Bollywood pic Hubs get like a Bazillion hits everyday.  They must be doing something right.

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      Denseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Maybe I'll read up on Bollywood and join them.

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   Whitney05posted 13 years ago

   Maddie, so what about hubs with 50-100 pictures and about 50 links? Is that flagable content for low quality? No text.
   
   Marisa, I'm with you, there's nothing that can really be done about clothed women, unless you can get the hub for low quality (no text and such).

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      Denseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I don't recall seeing any with no text but lots have repeated text!

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   Sab Ohposted 13 years ago

   Is it against the TOS to promote as "hot" women who are very clearly not?

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      Denseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      hot is subjectve, no?

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         Sab Ohposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Not always. When the "beautiful aunties" have arms like an NFL lineman and their hairy guts are hanging over their saris, 'hot' has been disqualified.

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   Richieb799posted 13 years ago

   I wrote about 'beautiful Eurasian women' but this was because this is a unique race of people, and I including a lot of writing, there are photos of everyday women in there too..I don't mean to self promote, I am just worried somebody may accidently flag mine now when its a hub I worked very hard on.. but I know the kind you are on about

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      Sab Ohposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You're right, women from Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, etc. can be quite breathtaking.

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         Richieb799posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Eurasian means a mixed race of White European and Asian

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            Lynda Garyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I fell for the self-promotion (just ribbin' ya), and took a look.  I wouldn't EVER consider the Euroasia hub as inappropriate, low content, adult, etc.  I can't imagine it ever being flagged (unless, er, you have enemies!) LOL
            
            Good hub.  GORGEOUS women.

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            Sab Ohposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            "Eurasian means a mixed race of White European and Asian"
            
            Yes, I know. Notice how I replied and everything?

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   torimariposted 13 years ago

   I totally agree with you OP. I need to flag these more frequently...tired of seeing such spam.

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    SiddSinghposted 13 years ago

    I have written a HOT CHICKS hub too!
    <snipped link - do not promote your hubs in the forums>

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       thranaxposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Nice lol.
       
       ~thranax~

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       Denseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Nice but your sanitised hub has even less words than some of the Indian aunties hubs out there.
       Wow, some of these are bare naked! Just the way I like them.

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          Denseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I really meant to say most instead of some!

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          SiddSinghposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Wow! The link is snipped for self promotion. I thought it added to the discussion, kind of!
          
          Interestingly, the hub DID see a spike in traffic, more than 40 visitors (+ more than 25 slide shows) since the last evening. Guess what, 75% of the traffic is from HUBPAGES itself!

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             Denseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Proof that the ratio of perverts to normal people here in Hubpages is at a healthy ratio. And perverts aren't racists.

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                SiddSinghposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                LOL. I agree.

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