You all know the hubs I'm referring to, right? The hubs with pictures of beautiful women from India, Pakistan, etc., and a dozen or more links to sites for "the belly button" or whatnot?
I flag these, either as low quality or adult -- but isn't there something that can be done to stop them from being submitted in the first place. They are RAMPANT!
Some of them, in fact, may not even technically fall under the category of "TOS Violation," but there is no doubt that these types of hubs were not what HP intended this site to be used for, is there?
Likewise, the number of "spun" hubs -- articles run through one of those word-mixer-uppers, where someone who speaks broken English to begin with only makes matters worse by trying to spin an article for reuse? They drive me batty!
Why do I care? Because I spend a lot of time publishing here -- and this type of "free" publishing already has a bad enough reputation amongst "legitimate" writers (not my word; theirs). To be further associated with a site "known for" the Indian "porn" and broken English spun articles is frustrating, to say the least.
Okay ... I've vented. But I still wish there were some way to reduce or eliminate this problem. I don't even know how much it helps for me to spend a bit of time each week flagging these hubs via the Hopper. Are they ever taken down, or am I wasting my time? Any idea what the percentage is for the hubs that AREN'T caught and flagged?
There is, and you're doing it. Please continue to do so.
I share your feelings, I flag like heck too, and I wish more people in the community cared enough to put in the effort to improve the place overall.
Photo Hubs are a legitimate use of HubPages and HP makes no judgment about those photos unless they're adult - which means nudity, not cleavage.
If they have multiple links to other sites, then they may be overly promotional - in which case, flag away.
Otherwise, there's no point, and it's counter-productive because dealing with spurious flags chews up the HP Admin Team's time, which they could be using to find other junk.
You don't mean the hubs filled with pics (not porn by any means) of Indian-looking women, do you? Those always have a host of links after them pointing to what is likely porn (but I won't click on them). I flag those. If I'm wasting Admin's time, I'd like to know (because it means I'm also wasting my time.)
What about the sites in broken English, the ones that appear to be spun? Where sentences make no sense, but there are SOME sections (usually the opening paragraph) that is written "correctly"? I flag them. Should I not?
Hubs of garbled, nonsensical content should be flagged. Those are substandard.
I just checked a few myself. Maybe I was just lucky, but in each case the "host of links" led to other Hubs. You can right- click on the link and select "properties" to see the URL it's pointing to, without going there.
If that's the case, they're not against TOS and there's no point reporting them.
The broken English - yes, they should be flagged.
There's nothing wrong with broken English nor is there a problem with Bollywood pics. This is a forum of international "adventurists," and broken English is a game attempt at reaching out to the English-speaking world. (Certain other nationalities make no effort to write or speak in English.)
What I would like to see are photos of everyday life in India. For example, it would be fascinating to see -- photographically speaking -- of photos taken in the hubber's own city or village. This might incite many on HP to travel there.
This is not the first time this complaint has been made. Admin. would have acted if the India pics were offensive.
When you flag a hub for admin to take a look, one of those options reads:
If you see or read content that seems like it fits that definition, it should be flagged for admin to review. HubPages would like to maintain a certain level of quality as search engines don't rank gibberish highly.
A few words of clarification:
Any hubs that cannot easily be understood, either because they were fed through an article spinner, badly translated, or the author does not have a great enough grasp on the English language, should be flagged as substandard/low quality.
Any hubs that consist purely of pictures of a lascivious nature should be flagged as adult.
Maddie, I think the problem is the definition of lascivious. Pictures of attractive fully-dressed actresses wouldn't fall into that category, I imagine.
A lot of people use lascivious pictures to help generate traffic to real written hubs and thats ok, so technically we make a double face saying they can't when we do. Although they do not add any words, I would think any hub with no text at all should be considered SUBSTANDARD and removed. There are many easy ways you can add text to a photo hub, hell I have personally for my Firefox Icon hub, its ~400 words, 50 pictures, and serves both standards of hubpages (well written and not just pictures). By not adding text, you show you dont care at all and are just rapidly uploading content.
PS: Mines better looking then *cough*Indi*cough*au*cough*nts.
Even as we speak, we are gaining popularity on the Indian sub-continent as an Indian bikini site to the delights of Indian uncles and teenagers everywhere.
Some of them are also very productive. It's is not unusual to see 400+ hubs or even more from posters there.
Sometimes, I wonder if it's all the work of one guy under different accounts.
And sometimes I wonder if they're making money from Adsense.
They have to be, otherwise why the high number of posts?
From what those authors have said, they get a lot of traffic but don't earn very well at all. Sadly, those authors haven't figured out that the audience that wants to just look at pictures does very little else interaction-wise.
From what I see, alot of them look the same and I dare bet even the author will have a hard time telling one post from another.
Maybe they could try variations like:
Indian Aunty With Rolex
Indian Celebrity Smoking In Public?
How to find out what they said? Do they hang out around the forums here?
These Indian Bollywood pic Hubs get like a Bazillion hits everyday. They must be doing something right.
Maddie, so what about hubs with 50-100 pictures and about 50 links? Is that flagable content for low quality? No text.
Marisa, I'm with you, there's nothing that can really be done about clothed women, unless you can get the hub for low quality (no text and such).
Is it against the TOS to promote as "hot" women who are very clearly not?
I wrote about 'beautiful Eurasian women' but this was because this is a unique race of people, and I including a lot of writing, there are photos of everyday women in there too..I don't mean to self promote, I am just worried somebody may accidently flag mine now when its a hub I worked very hard on.. but I know the kind you are on about
You're right, women from Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, etc. can be quite breathtaking.
Eurasian means a mixed race of White European and Asian
I fell for the self-promotion (just ribbin' ya), and took a look. I wouldn't EVER consider the Euroasia hub as inappropriate, low content, adult, etc. I can't imagine it ever being flagged (unless, er, you have enemies!) LOL
Good hub. GORGEOUS women.
"Eurasian means a mixed race of White European and Asian"
Yes, I know. Notice how I replied and everything?
I totally agree with you OP. I need to flag these more frequently...tired of seeing such spam.
I have written a HOT CHICKS hub too!
<snipped link - do not promote your hubs in the forums>
Nice but your sanitised hub has even less words than some of the Indian aunties hubs out there.
Wow, some of these are bare naked! Just the way I like them.
Wow! The link is snipped for self promotion. I thought it added to the discussion, kind of!
Interestingly, the hub DID see a spike in traffic, more than 40 visitors (+ more than 25 slide shows) since the last evening. Guess what, 75% of the traffic is from HUBPAGES itself!
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