Do you vote a hub down because you disagree with it?

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   Chasukposted 14 years ago

   Or do you only vote a hub down because it was poorly written, or contains erroneous information?
   
   What is your criteria?

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      dutch84posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I never vote unless it's an up and I give ups to people whose hubs I like with good content, informative and nice layout (i.e. pics and/or videos)...

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   habeeposted 14 years ago

   I don't think I've ever voted down a hub, and I would NEVER do so just because I disagree with the hubber's point of view.

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   Aficionadaposted 14 years ago

   I have only voted down a hub once, and that was because it was (I'm so sorry to say) rated very highly but at the same time was IMO very poorly written.  If there had not been such a huge discrepancy, I would just have ignored it.

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      mrpopoposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Yeah I think that's about the only time I'll ever do that, but so far I haven't seen one of those

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   Lisa HWposted 14 years ago

   Nope.  I'd never do that because I'd hope people who disagree with me wouldn't vote down my Hubs for that reason. 
   
   The ones I vote down (or flag) are the ones that are clearly put together by someone who used a spinner and that are barely coherent because of that.  (You can tell the difference between a person for whom English is a second language and an article spinner gone wacky.) They also look like there's a good chance someone copied someone else's article.  The other ones I'll vote down and flag are the ones with no writing and only a link to some ad page - that type of thing.
   
   I haven't run into any Hubs that were written by people who tried to put together a good Hub and who wrote it that I'd vote down.  Most of the time when people make the effort to write what they think is a good Hub, the Hubs wouldn't warrant being voted down.  It's the ones that are obviously a matter of someone trying to slime their way to earnings that hit you in the face for being bad.
   
   With regard to bad information, I don't really approach reading Hubs with a fact-checker mentality; but if I saw something I really knew was inaccurate, I may add a comment to dispute the point on the Hub.  Another option (though I haven't run into the situation) might be to e.mail the author and politely mention that you question one fact or another.

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      Mike Lickteigposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I agree completely.  The only time I have ever voted down a hub was when it was incomprehensible "spinner-fare."

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   Chasukposted 14 years ago

   I am so glad to read these "no" answers.
   
   I asked because of a phenomenon I observed that concerned me.
   
   Understand that I'm new to hubpages, still trying to figure things out, but here is what I have observed...
   
   A hubber writes a hub idolizing This Week's Hottie. Dozens of fanboys write drooling comments.
   
   Another hubber writes a hub idolizing Last Week's Hottie. Dozens of anti-fans write frothing-at-the-mouth comments.
   
   I was worried that negative comments translated into downvotes, and vice versa.
   
   From your replies, I'm guessing that this was an unwarranted fear.

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      Lisa HWposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      If it's a Hub that has little writing and only pictures of whichever week's Hottie it is, it may not be the comments that the Hubber would have to worry about.  What he may not see, though, is if people come across the Hub and don't see much writing, and only see pictures, there's a good chance they'll vote it down without making any comments at all.
      
      People know that comments contribute to traffic, and if someone thinks a Hub doesn't deserve a "traffic boost" they won't comment.  So what to worry about is whether the Hub seems to have substance to it or not.   Some people may make negative comments and then vote down, but if they really hate the Hub they're likely not to comment and just vote down. 

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   wyanjenposted 14 years ago

   If I understand correctly, down votes do not hold as much weight as up votes.
   
   

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   pisean282311posted 14 years ago

   i have voted only one hub down..it was not a hub but a escort service ad..some spammer had come in and made 11 hubs ..i reported to hub team about it..that is only time i voted down..

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      gramaryeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Me too - one hubber sent me a totally sleezy message via my e-mail, I checked out the one hub and it was an ad for escort. I voted it down before reporting it, just in case reporting didn't work. Have not looked back to see if the hubber is still there.

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   Polly Cposted 14 years ago

   I don't think I've ever rated a hub down, though I have flagged hubs with no text, or next to nothing. I would never rate down a hub I didn't agree with, after all that's just opinion.

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   Lisa HWposted 14 years ago

   I think, for the most part, people here (Hubbers) have a lot of respect and sense of community for fellow Hubbers.  Everyone knows what's it like to put in the effort to come up with a decent Hub, and I think most people respect the efforts of others.  There's such a mix of Hubs most of us know that they all aren't going to be our "cup of tea" and don't expect them to be.  Usually, it's the "slimy"/spammy stuff that irks most Hubbers.   It doesn't take a literary genius to produce a decent Hub - only a basic effort to write something.  When people put in that basic effort on a Hub there's usually no real reason to vote it down.

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      jamesbrownbeteposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      If you don't mind Lisa, what is that basic effort that a hubber must exert ?

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    andromidaposted 14 years ago

    I never vote down.I guess it is always better to give feedback-let it be positive or negative.No matter whatever people write on their hubs,everybody has his own point-of-view.We need to respect everyone's view,otherwise how you expect any respect from others

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    trish1048posted 14 years ago

    I've voted a couple of hubs down. One was so poorly written that I was left shaking my head.  It truly made no point or sense.  Another one that I voted down contained only one photo, and I don't mean a picure that would take your breath away

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    CMHypnoposted 14 years ago

    I would only vote a Hub down if it was incredibly badly written, was very short, or only contained a couple of photos and no text.  Also if it was pure spam.

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    Originposted 14 years ago

    I don't think I've ever voted one down, but I suppose.. if I knew it was spam and wasn't an actual article I might do it.

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    watchyaposted 14 years ago

    I never voted down a hub. I only flag spam.

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    optimus grimlockposted 14 years ago

    no, i would just leave a comment and my arguement

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    relacheposted 14 years ago

    I vote down hubs all the time.  They are poorly-crafted without qualifying as needing to be flagged as having violated the site rules.  A lack of spelling competency, mangled grammar, lots of photos with an extreme lack of written content.
    
    But they pale in comparison to the amount of spam I flag.  And I get thank you notes from admin about that.

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    raisingmeposted 14 years ago

    I haven't voted a hub down in the five weeks I have been on board.  I vote up the hubs that are well done, well written, leave comments when appropriate and if it is useful, amusing, well written, etc. I indicate accordingly.  I have had one email from another hubber that indicated a mistake on one of my hubs that I very much appreciated them having taken the time to point out.  If I am not in agreement with content I don't comment.  If it is well thought out, well presented and well written I will still vote it up. Just because I don't agree with it doesn't mean it's not well done.  If a hub wasn't well written I would just leave.  I haven't found a hub yet that wasn't but I think that is mainly due to the hubbers I chose to follow and the topics that interest me are of good caliber.  If I did see a spelling mistake or repeated text I would indicate that via email.  In the future, should I come across something inappropriate I would indicate that it was to the correct parties.  All of the hubbers I have interacted with thus far have been helpful, insightful and supportive and I am delighted to have found my way here!

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    Michael Willisposted 14 years ago

    The only hubs I have ever voted down were those that were just Spam or a "link page" to an outside source with no benefit to Hubpages what-so-ever.
    There may be those that vote down hubs to just be voting down hubs, or because they are mad at someone, or disagree with the view, or maybe just feel they are above others writers......but that is not the reason to ever vote down someone's work.
    I have seen quite a few hubs where I went to the TOS before making a decision on a vote. If the Hub meets Hubpages TOS, I will either NOT vote or then make a vote if I feel strongly enough.
    Hubpages does want us to help them to filter those Hubs that break the HP rules.
    I can honestly say I have only reported or voted down Hubs that went against the rules of Hubpages.

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    Chasukposted 14 years ago

    I appreciate all of the replies I see here.
    
    I likewise would never vote down a hub merely for disagreeing with it. Everyone has the right to their own opinion, after all.
    
    I've been on HubPages for about two weeks. I've been on many, many online communities before it, but there is something unique here. Few trolls, a lot of integrity, and a lot of helpful people.
    
    Thanks, everyone.

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       Michael Willisposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       You will find many here that are helpful. That is why I stayed with HP after I joined. I have learned a lot from from members here.
       Welcome to HP!!!

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    Cagsilposted 14 years ago

    I am blind as far as the vote down button is concerned, as of lately. When I was a newbie and I found horrific writing then I would. After a while, I chose to do nothing.
    
    Because, nothing is better than adding negativity. If I didn't make it through reading, then I most likely left.
    
    There are some hubs that I have disagreed with and made my presence known about it by leaving a comment. If the argument is legitimate then commenting seems appropriate. Providing there is a comment section. Some people do not want comments for some reason, but that's okay too.
    
    I would rather a person left my hub than vote it down, but then again, from what has been learned from HubPages Staff, voting down is meaningless. It barely has any affect/effect on your hub. It is an insignificant button. But, to be on point- If you give the choice to UP a hub, then you must also give a choice to rate it DOWN as well.
    
    Just a thought.

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       Michael Willisposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I will rate this comment....UP! Hey Ray!!! I will say I have rated a bunch of hubs Up! I do prefer the positive.

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    shazwellynposted 14 years ago

    If you have no kind words to say.. then best to say nothing more at all!

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    Michael Willisposted 14 years ago

    When the HubHopping was first introduced I saw two Hubs by one Hubber that was nothing more than a list of links to sites outside of Hubpages.  No sentences, no information....it was just a link page!
    I voted it down and Reported!!!!! And I saw it was removed from Hubpages the next time I viewed it.  That is the type of issues we as Hubbers can do to help with Hubpages. I don't see this as a negative, but a "Positive" for us all as members of HP.

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       jamesbrownbeteposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       hey expert michael! how do we know that a certain hub has been voted down?

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    Wendy Krickposted 14 years ago

    I've never voted down a hub. But I only vote up hubs that I really like.

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    thisisoliposted 14 years ago

    I only vote down poor quality hubs.

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    blondepoetposted 14 years ago

    I have never voted a hub down. If it does not appeal to me I don't read it. If it is poorly written it does not need me to mark it down as it is going to suffer as it is.

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