I have forgotten how to write for Adsense.

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   thisisoliposted 14 years ago

   My Adsense earnigns have been dropping recently, mostly down to my focus on sales hubs.  Today I attempted to find something to write about that would generate a bit more Adsense revenue for me.
   
   Unfortunately something seems to have happened.  Whenever I look at a topic, bring in some keywords, or even start to write on a topic, all I see is products, possible sales. I have apparently forgotten how to write for Adsense clicks!
   
   My only hope it seems is to go in to some kind of knowledge based subject such as history, but I am not entirely sure how much profit is in that niche!

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      contentposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      just focus on solid content and include related keyword phrases in your content.  ONce you've identified the revenue generating niches, you should be good to go!

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   skyfireposted 14 years ago

   Back to school, oli 
   
   How to hubs perform good for adsense.

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   LaMamaLoliposted 14 years ago

   Why don't you write one for fun? Might break the sales focus and then go back to your mission...

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      ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Because he does this for a living and writing for fun seldom pays the bills?
      
      In other words, if you work in an office then its probably best that you dont sit on the floor reading a novel. It would be fun, but you will lose your job and won't get paid.

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   ryankettposted 14 years ago

   I have successfully combined the two. Write a sales hub to a decent paying AdSense keyword title. Retain your initial AdSense block in replace of a photo, write a long text introduction, say 500 words. THEN do your sales pitch.
   
   Those who don't leave via AdSense in your first 500 words are probably sniffing around the end of the hook. Then BANG pull up the rod, you don't want my AdSense you b*tch, take my Amazon, my long hard Amazon. Yeeeaaaahhh baby.
   
   Sorry, odd mood today. But on a serious note, I do manage to make a fair bit of AdSense from sales pages.

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      Kangaroo_Jaseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry about your odd mood Ryan, but that is some funny sh*t I have read today, thanks for being both informative, instructional and presenting it in a damn funny way.
      
      Appreciate that

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      WryLiltposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks Ryan! That's exactly what I do,  because I find I get good clicks on sales hub adsense adverts.
      
      I mentioned this somewhere on the forum and got shot down for actually wanting to optimize a sales hub for both.
      
      Good to know I'm not the only freak out there who wants ALL DA MONEY!

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         lobobrandonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I'm rejuvenating this thread as it's got good info for people looking to write sales hubs and there are quite a few questions regarding this on the forums. Btw WryLilt, I do the same and I'm glad that others do it too. I have just 5 of them this way though (all my sales ones).

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   thisisoliposted 14 years ago

   Haha maybe I should try that. I normally try and write enough in an introduction to allow the Adsense block below my main image, but maybe I should start to change that!

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      ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      My latest hubpage 'Best Cheap Laptop Cooler' is probably a good example, although a few more words before the Amazon capsules would probably be a bit better (as long as YieldBuild does the same for your visit as it did mine!). I get my three main AdSense blocks out of the way instantly. If they get passed the AdSense ads without taking that bait, then here comes my Amazon capsules...
      
      See what I mean? I would perhaps recommend twice as many words before my first Amazon capsule, space out those ads a little, but I effectively have an AdSense hub sitting on top of an Amazon hub. That seems to work for me pretty well Oli.

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         thisisoliposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         It's not a bad idea, I think the only problem with that is that I would rather make a sale than get a click!

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            pauldeedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Outside of the holiday shopping season, $0.05-0.07 per amazon click is what we are seeing across HubPages.  I think on most hubs that is less than you'd earn from an AdSense click, but your mileage may vary.

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               thisisoliposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Actually I had never considered comparing my Amazon earnings per click to Google Adsense before.
               
               It works out at about $0.11 for my Amazon, not too bad I guess!

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                  sunforgedposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Did you use the REST category for HUbpages?
                  
                  or did you do you Amazon accountwide stats?

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                     thisisoliposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     I used my Amazon channel for Hubpages

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                  WordofMouseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Mine works out to $0.13/click on Amazon, so we're seeing similar results.

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               Ivorwenposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               That is an interesting way to look at things.  I get so many more Amazon clicks than AdSense clicks, from relatively few hubs, that Amazon seems like a great way to go.
               
               Off of my hubs that sell Amazon, I get about the same number of Amazon sales a month as I do AdSense clicks, and the sales are worth way more.

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               Len Cannonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               That's probably true on average, but I also get about 15 times more Amazon clicks than adsense clicks.

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            ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            As per Paul's comment....
            
            If you are writing to a topic with a decent CPC, then it is often far more valuable to optimise for AdSense. If only because the AdSense CTR is far superior then the Amazon conversion rate in REAL terms. Which is effectively the proportion of sales in relation to your hub traffic, and NOT your Amazon traffic.
            
            I have a particular sales page which gets me about $1 in Amazon commissions per sale, but $1 per AdSense click. Now, I don't know how well the Amazon converts but lets say 10%-20% to be easy.
            
            Ideally I want them to click on my Ads before reaching the sales page. Ten clicks on my AdSense gets me $10, the same ten clicks on my Amazon may get me $1-$2.
            
            It depends on the topic of course, if the AdSense earnt me 5 cents per click, then 10 clicks would earn me 50 cents and Amazon would be more profitable. Generally the non-existant cpc topics are going to get you the hefty traffic for Amazon, but there are always exceptions. Keep an eye on your Analytics to identify the hubs which could be making you a bit more....

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               seanorjohnposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Ryankett, you are 25 years of age and you are starting to sound 55 years of age. You need to lighten up. You are a great hubber but you seem to have lost your way. I base this on your last five postings.

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                  ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Hey? You didn't read this bit then...
                  
                  "Those who don't leave via AdSense in your first 500 words are probably sniffing around the end of the hook. Then BANG pull up the rod, you don't want my AdSense you b*tch, take my Amazon, my long hard Amazon. Yeeeaaaahhh baby."
                  
                  I don't really get any 'lighter' than that...

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   Richieb799posted 14 years ago

   I have a few Ancient History hubs that I seem to get traffic on, I think a lot of the ads are advertising holidays in the location of the historical site

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   sunforgedposted 14 years ago

   Your killing me, you should be a motivational speaker
   
   
   cool factoid from Paul! *hpinfo*

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      Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      *hpinfo*
      
      ^ = Very useful, good idea.

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         ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Aaaarggghhh.... has he done some sort of trick which enables him to present good ideas in an RSS or something?

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            Mrvoodooposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            LOL, I feel your frustration, it took me a minute to figure out what SF was upto.  It's simpler than what you suggested.  But I don't wanna say here out of fear that others will contaminate his system.  I won't add to it out of respect.  But I may make use of it.
            
            

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   Website Examinerposted 14 years ago

   Read all my hubs, then do the exact opposite of me.

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   Beth100posted 14 years ago

   I'd give you advice, but I'm not performing all that well.
   
   Seriously,  you know how to write 'em Oli.  You're such a tease!

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    Sweetsusiegposted 14 years ago

    This probably a DUMB question but here goes anyway - I have yet to write an 'Ad' article.  Mine are mostly this and that stories and what not.  I do happen to have a product that I would personally like to endorse.  Something that I wouldn't want to live without.  Is there a particular way I should go about this?  Do I highlight the name of the product add a link to that website?
    
    Any tips on this would be great!

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       cosetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       
       
       this guy can help. read some of his hubs. here is a good one:
       
       Three Steps to HubPages Success
       
       good luck
       
       p.s. that is not a dumb question.

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          seanorjohnposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Sweet s ,becoming an Amazon affiliate and using the words "buy online" seems to work.

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    Aficionadaposted 14 years ago

    I've seen on several Hubs a disclaimer about the fact that the writer may earn money from clicks and purchases, whether the item is endorsed or criticized (or neither).
    
    Also, on the radio recently I heard that it is very important for bloggers and other internet writers to provide a similar disclaimer (for tax and legal reasons).  This may apply only to Americans, but I'm not sure.
    
    Can anyone help explain this?  Is it necessary to have a distinct disclaimer on each individual Hub?  Or is it equally acceptable to have one separate Hub that is a long disclaimer (as I saw somewhere) and then link from other Hubs to it?
    
    I know this isn't what Oli asked about, but this looked like a good place to ask the question.
    
    Thanks in advance.....

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       sofsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Back to school Oli 

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       thisisoliposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       There is no legal requirement yet as far as I am aware. And to be perfectly honest  am not sure how they would go about policing this.
       
       I think if such a law did come in to affect then Hubpages might post a generic disclaimer on a seperate page or at the footer stating that product reviews may or may not be financially motivated simply to protect themselves and the writers.

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    sunforgedposted 14 years ago

    The law was created for paid testimonials/endorsements - people who receive a free product and then review it online.
    
    It doesnt currently apply to those who make commissions on sales.
    
    Either way its a tissue law as even the FCC has no way to police or enforce it.
    
    I seem to remember it being intended to be used to target all the fake diet pills and other quack medicine sites that pose as being legitimate , gives the FCC some ammunition to go after sites/businesses that are in their radar.
    
    For a more balanced translation - official details:
    http://www.startpoint.biz/advertising/b … isclosure/

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    Aficionadaposted 14 years ago

    Oli, Sunforged - Thanks for the perspective.  I'll check out the link.
    
    I initially ran across this a week or more ago when I was reading someone's Hubs, and right now I don't even remember who it was.  The disclaimer was on a separate page with a link to it from *each* individual Hub.  And it appeared that all of this (by that Hubber) was written about two years ago.
    
    Then, last weekend, I heard just a snippet about the same issue on the Clark Howard show (radio show in US about various financial matters).  I turned it on in the middle of the comment, so I didn't hear everything - only enough to connect it to what I had seen in the Hubber's pages.
    
    Anyway, I'll read the link and see what it says. Thanks!

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    Aficionadaposted 14 years ago

    Okay, I have read that linked article now, and I do believe the appropriate/correct response would be "Wow. Just Wow."
    
    I don't know whether this was your own blog, SF, or if you simply knew about it.  But to you or another person or persons who took the time to read 81 pages (!!!!!) of bureaucrat-ese, for the benefit of the unknowing like me, all I can say is Thank You, Thank You, Thank You.
    
    The article was clear, informative, and very helpful.  I'll keep watching for more on this, in case legal interpretations of it change over time.  In the meantime, I'll put the plexiglass cover back over my panic button.

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    sunforgedposted 14 years ago

    Its a Hubpage Members Site, Im not sure if he clearly makes an association so I did not do it for him.
    
    Im pretty sure he does though.
    
    He is very meticulous in his research.

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    Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago

    Don't write for Adsense, write for people. If you write it well they will come. Of course, I only make payout every other month.

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