Should I backlink even if my hubs get traffic?

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  1. David 470 profile image83
    David 470posted 7 years ago

    I did not send some backlinks to some of my hubs recently, and yet they are receiving good traffic. Should I still backlink them anyway? Whats the primarily difference if I did or did not. I usually send 5-10 backlinks or so....

  2. Susana S profile image97
    Susana Sposted 7 years ago

    The reason you would do some backlinking is to improve your position in the search engine results for your chosen keyphrases.

    So for instance if your hub is at number 6 on page 1 for the search term blue pigs and you wanted to increase the traffic, you would create some backlinks with the anchor text blue pigs to push up your position. Just jumping up one position in the serps can double traffic.

    So the first thing to do is to determine where your page is in the serps for a particular search term. If you are already at number 1 you might not want to bother with backlinks, if you're not then creating a few backlinks will be beneficial.

    1. Wystan Wellington profile image59
      Wystan Wellingtonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I feel that even if you're already #1, you should still throw some backlinks to it. You don't know when someone will come in to boost their rankings and overtake you. Some backlinks will at least help to secure your ranking better.

      1. Susana S profile image97
        Susana Sposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        That's cool, we all have our own ways of doing things smile For me it's a time thing - I'd rather work on boosting articles that need it.

        1. WryLilt profile image90
          WryLiltposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Firstly - Even if you're number one for a search term, it doesn't mean you might not rank higher for a different term. For instance you might be #1 for "Red striped santa socks" but a few more backlinks might rank you up a spot for "Red striped socks".

          And I personally don't backlink. I tweet now and that's it. Why?

          It's not my site - I'm only helping HP. Not that I don't love HP, but in the end I'm only getting backlinks for one page, while it benefits their whole SITE.

          Secondly, I'd rather write 100 hubs that mature in a year than 10 hubs I spend ages backlinking and mature in three months. Eggs in one basket and all that...

          1. saleheensblog profile image60
            saleheensblogposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            +99

          2. Susana S profile image97
            Susana Sposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Like I said, we all have our own ways of doing things. What's good for one isn't necessarily what's good for someone else. If you want to wait around in the hope that your pages might mature that's fine, it's no  skin off my nose. I think I answered David's question though about the reasons and benefits of backlinks hmm Or maybe it wasn't up to scratch? neutral

            Yeh I know one page can rank for plenty of search terms - mine do.

            Backlinks not only help Hubpages but they also help your own pages increase in traffic and earnings.

            1. WryLilt profile image90
              WryLiltposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              Sorry Susana, that wasn't meant to be directly back at your comment; it was at Wystan as well as the OP.

              1. Susana S profile image97
                Susana Sposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                Ok, no problem smile

              2. PurpleOne profile image86
                PurpleOneposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                To WryLilt or anyone else who believes in the aging theory (not saying I don't myself - I have lots to learn!):

                Do you feel that sales hubs - hubs designed specifically to sell Amazon products, for example - will really generate organic backlinks all by themselves? I can see informational hubs perhaps getting their own backlinks, but for me at least, I feel it's a stretch to think that someone would want to backlink to one of my sales hubs..  Take my latest sales hub, for example.. why on earth would someone want to backlink to it? I'm not saying it couldn't happen, just very unlikely..

                Have you so far received many organic backlinks on your sales hubs? Just wondering. I haven't myself but I'm clearly no expert here and like I said, have lots to learn. Thanks.

                1. saleheensblog profile image60
                  saleheensblogposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  I support Pcunix and WryLit but you have a good point on sales hub.

                  Now, why back linking is important? It's the tool to measure page rank. And it always happens that a low PR page overtakes a high PR page because of the difference of quality. I think even in sales hub quality is a matter.

                2. Pcunix profile image91
                  Pcunixposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  There are sales hubs and there are sales hubs. As I have said in other places, I almost never specifically write about a product, but if I do, I try to find a way to make it link-worthy. That might be humor or even a rant, it might be a novel use, or it might be a way around some limitation. 

                  Sure, if all someone has done is publish a dry, uninteresting review, they are unlikely to get a single genuine link.   That type of bland page is all too common and - in my opinion - pollutes the Internet because it has no value to anyone.

                  Value add is the answer to many a sales problem, isn't it?

                  1. saleheensblog profile image60
                    saleheensblogposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    10 on 10, this is what I was trying to say.

                  2. shazwellyn profile image67
                    shazwellynposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    With due respect Pcunix - the question was to do with sales hubs.  I agree with much of your ideas about content being king but, as an exception to disprove the rule, we dont know where we stand six months down the line.  Will the items be out of stock, for example, or will you have missed the boat as regards to that great new product that you have yet to review because you havent tested it yet?

                    At the end of the day, remember, there is always some blighter that will get that review top ranked using backlinking strategies, whilst 'one' waits, taking the moral ground.  And, you know that I take the moral ground to my detriment (it seems).

                    Backlinking might be useful in putting a great review, with quality content, where it wouldnt be if it was an ever green article - NOW and NOT in six months!  People really miss the boat waiting for natural links with product sales.  It is as if you need a crystal ball.

                    So, here you are.... the terrible dichotomy of this whole backlinking thing!

          3. Pcunix profile image91
            Pcunixposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Ayup.

            Besides, it makes me feel icky.

            Good content attracts organic links. That takes time, but so what? As WryLit says, we can make good use of the time.

            1. Moxyl profile image60
              Moxylposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              Thanks for this reply as it completely flipped my understanding, since most people focus on backlinking.

              I realize that when i'm posting new hub links on twitter, digg and she told me, my page view increases but the viewing time is in generally low. That actually negatively affects my Page eCPM it seems.

              1. thisisoli profile image71
                thisisoliposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                Try focusing more on creating article backlinks than social bookmarking.

                1. Pcunix profile image91
                  Pcunixposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  And again, I'd suggest spending more time on your content.

                  Aside from anything else, amateurish attempts can get you in trouble with Google. It can negatively affect this site also, which has caused HP staff to issue warnings against it and to even take down hubs when their owner went overboard with spammy link creation.

                  I see no need for it anyway, but if you are convinced that you must, at least learn from a pro like Misha or keep the activity level low.

                  I do not do this and earn close to $2,000 monthly from all my Internet income sources.  People like Misha of course earn more, but that stuff isn't my main income and I wouldn't want it to be - you never know what the future may bring.  If you are earning $10 a month, you aren't going to earn $1,000 by throwing up social bookmarking backlinks.

              2. Pcunix profile image91
                Pcunixposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                Well, lots of useless traffic of course affects your RPM (Google's new term, Revenue Per Thousand).

                I have had the misfortune to be hit by slashdot and other big idiot sites a few times.  Thousands upon thousands of visitors, even crashing my site on one lovely day. No income, no residual benefit.  I hate that so much I have a standing request at the bottom of my articles there NOT to post them on any social site!

          4. David 470 profile image83
            David 470posted 7 years agoin reply to this

            I may end up sending a few backlinks to ones that are super high in traffic, but I am not going overboard. 5-8 is not overboard is it?

            I agree though, content is overall more important

            1. Pcunix profile image91
              Pcunixposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              No, 5-8 is certainly not overboard smile

  3. skyfire profile image70
    skyfireposted 7 years ago

    Bingo.

  4. profile image0
    awesome77posted 7 years ago

    Simply put, you will even get more traffic with some backlinking!

    1. Misha profile image70
      Mishaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      This smile

  5. saleheensblog profile image60
    saleheensblogposted 7 years ago

    Well, I don't backlink at all. If I do I should go for article back linking through other reputed revenue sharing sites so that I can generate income from each and every article. I would not write one 1000 word hub and 5 other 200-300 hundred word summary to promote a central content. Rather I would write five complete 1000 hubs on one topic and link them together[not reciprocally] to create one way backlinks to each content.

  6. xboxps3wow profile image42
    xboxps3wowposted 7 years ago

    backlinks will help you get higher in SE

    1. Pcunix profile image91
      Pcunixposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      You see, that's the kind of empty statement that leads people to wrong conclusions.

      Throwing up a few self created backlinks on a social networking site is unlikely to change Google's opinion one bit.  Having a respected Wikipedia editor add your page to a matching entry there could make a big difference.

      There are links and there are links.

  7. viryabo profile image85
    viryaboposted 7 years ago

    .......and link them together[not reciprocally]....... Saleheen, can you explain what you mean here. I was wondering because i link relevant hubs topics together, each one to every one, but not sure if its good to do that. Could i be wrong?

  8. Randy Godwin profile image92
    Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago

    I don't bother with backlinking either other than an occasional post to FB or twitter.  But I do try to make informational hubs which feature products used for the particular subject. 

    I try to write information about subjects which will remain useful for quite a while, even if the products change overtime.  I still must update the improvements in the products occasionally, but the time seems well spent.

 
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