What Does it Actually Mean to "Mature a Hub?"

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  1. prairieprincess profile image93
    prairieprincessposted 13 years ago

    I hear the phrase, "mature a hub," a lot. What actually happens when a hub matures? I know people say that after a hub has matured (around six months) it starts to do much better. But what actually happens when a hub matures?


    1. bogerk profile image70
      bogerkposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for asking this! It inspired a lot of great comments. Some very useful information here.

  2. SandyMcCollum profile image65
    SandyMcCollumposted 13 years ago

    Two answers: A hub that's been matured has been published for a while and has evergreen readers. Sometimes when someone finishes a hub they don't publish it right away. They let the score go up and then publish it. Both methods are maturing hubs.

    Unless I'm wrong, then someone else can correct me...

    1. WryLilt profile image88
      WryLiltposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Evergreen readers? Do you mean readers who come back to the same article again and again? I don't think this very likely on a large scale, although you may get organic backlinks from them. An evergreen hub is one that doesn't 'date' as it gets older. For instance 'Best goldfish in 2010' will date but 'Best Goldfish to buy as Pets' will not.

      And you can just leave a hub to raise its hub score, but it doesn't start officially ageing until it's published. While it's unpublished, only YOU can see it, not the search engines.

  3. Cagsil profile image70
    Cagsilposted 13 years ago

    Search engines factor in age(date of creation of writing). wink

    1. iamalegend profile image61
      iamalegendposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Most hubbers says it's approximately 6 months.But when you publish a hub it's getting older and older.

  4. Valeed profile image70
    Valeedposted 13 years ago

    As your hub gets old and starts to rank well in search engine, that is the point when it is regarded as being 'matured'. smile Happy New Year!

  5. profile image0
    Kathryn LJposted 13 years ago

    And there was me thinking it meant that you'd pinched, sorry re-written a load of old cheesy prose and waited for people to comment on how 'so real' it was.  I think I might need some reflection time.

  6. saleheensblog profile image61
    saleheensblogposted 13 years ago

    saleheensblog wrote:

        Let me elaborate. After publishing a hub the search engines give it a boost in the page position to kick off. If its a good one you will find it even in the first page. After a few days or weeks it loose its position and climb down the pages. If the hub is a good one it starts to climb up the pages again and after few months it climbs up to the position it really deserves to be for certain keywords both for your used and non-used tags as search engines itself can pick the keywords from your hub.
        Now if you have chosen a short title with one or two keywords that are valuable both in terms of traffic and CPC you will get the benefit of the earlier favor of the search engines. In first few days you will get good amount of traffic and if the hub is really good in that time you may get some organic back links also.

        After few weeks or months when your hub has lost its position you will see steady traffic and you can research then for which keywords your hub is really getting traffic by using Google analytics and HP hub stat>keyword and title tuner. You can then pick more keywords from your research and add in the title to optimize the title and for a lower competition niche.

        But the earlier boost will not always take you to the first page. It depends on how short and how competitive your title is. For example, if your title is "Keyword Research" you are less likely to be in the first page as its too much competitive. But "Best Keyword Research Tool" could take you to the first page. Now after few months or weeks if you see that you hubs are getting visits for such keywords where words like "Google Adwords", "Keyword Analysis" is embedded in most of the time then you will consider to change the title to "Keyword Research and Analysis with Google Adwords."

        I have written a hub on keyword research, you can read the hub if you like.

    lrohner Wrote:

    I just want to clarify two things on this:

    First, this MAY be the case when you publish the hub. There are a lot of factors that go into determining if and when your hub reaches the top of page 1 and whether it stays there or drops off.

    Second, keyword research should be done before publishing a hub. Getting to page 1 in the search engines is ONLY important if people are actually searching for your keyword, and your keyword research should tell you the popularity of your chosen keyword. You can work very hard to get to page 1 for, say, "green-headed parrots that wear diapers," but if no one is searching for that term, your work has been a waste of time.

  7. saleheensblog profile image61
    saleheensblogposted 13 years ago

    Back-linking is also very important.

    1. profile image0
      Kathryn LJposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Now that's just being helpful, sensible and sounding like you know what your doing.  Is that really being in the hubpages spirit?

      1. saleheensblog profile image61
        saleheensblogposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        I am a newbie also but I am learning and learning fast and whenever I get a chance I try to help other with whatever I know. Yes, this is the hubpages' spirit.

    2. Pcunix profile image93
      Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You'll find that quite a few of us will disagree on that.

      1. WryLilt profile image88
        WryLiltposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        I don't backlink. On this account I did a few at the start and tweet.

        However on my other accounts (in particular my Amazon account with over 50 sales hubs) I have never shared, tweeted, posted, hopped, got followers or otherwise sought to have anyone notice. And yet I still sell quite a few items through those hubs.

      2. saleheensblog profile image61
        saleheensblogposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Based on my reading I can say,actually it depends on how do you take the work. If you want to make a full time living as an affiliate you can't disagree. As an amateur with a big amount of great contents one can earn a decent amount of money for sure. But a professional would love more.

        You could double or triple your earning if you had backlinked seriously. Couldn't you?

        1. WryLilt profile image88
          WryLiltposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I'll let you know when I start earning my entire income online. tongue

          1. saleheensblog profile image61
            saleheensblogposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Don't you need enormous amount of content for it? Wouldn't it be easy to write 50 hubs than 500? Well, it's easy for you to write 500 but I don't find much thing to write about sad It's easier for me to write 50 and then promote. smile Its easy for me to do 50 research than 500. I suck sad

            1. bgamall profile image68
              bgamallposted 13 years agoin reply to this

              Think about writing about something you see in the news. Write your view of the situation. You can get a lot of ideas that way.

        2. Pcunix profile image93
          Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          In a word, no.

          At least not at any level that I'd do. If you want to do the kind of stuff Misha does, well, that's an entirely different subject and an entirely different level.  I WON'T do that, but if that's what you are referring to, OK.

          But there is also the fact that "backlinking" refers both to interlinking appropriate content (which I certainly do) and throwing links out on SheToldme or whatever is the site du jour now.

          Quite a few people here will tell you that the latter is generally a waste of time and can cause trouble for you and HubPages if you are overly enthusiastic and careless.

          I would rather recommend that people go read the Learning Center articles on this subject and then, if they still feel they must, go read the heavy hitter stuff and tread very carefully until they really know what they are doing. 

          But for me, I'm strictly white hat. An announcement on Twitter and Facebook at the most and of course inter-hub linking when and where appropriate.

        3. ThomasE profile image68
          ThomasEposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Backlinking is obviously important, but artificial backlinking (spamming) can do a lot of damage.

          I analysed a single hub in yahoo site explorer... it was ranking 1st place in its main keyword... and it had no external back links. How did it do that? Well, it had over 300 internal backlinks, provided by hub pages, because its hub page score was high.

          That really changed a lot of my approach.

          You can get hundreds of powerful backlinks on Hubpages simply by writing a good hub.

          1. simeonvisser profile image70
            simeonvisserposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            How does that work? Do you rely on others to link to your hub or do you rely on your HubScore being so high that the hub is listed automatically near related hubs? Or both?

            1. ThomasE profile image68
              ThomasEposted 13 years agoin reply to this

              Both, but mainly, if you can get a hub score over 75 or so, hub pages automatically gives you a lot of backlinks from related hubs. So combine good keyword research with a good hub score... and you should rank well for most medium competitive keywords.

              1. simeonvisser profile image70
                simeonvisserposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Thanks, I see. That's worth trying smile

                1. saleheensblog profile image61
                  saleheensblogposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  also your hubs will be listed in the hot/latest/best section for every available word in your hub.

                  Peter Hoggan said:

                  It’s not just about numbers, where the link appears on the page that links to you is also important. If it appears in a sidebar or footer along with a ton of other links it will carry little value. On the other hand a link from within the main body or content of the linking page will carry much more weight. This is commonly referred to as contextual linking.

                  Another aspect is IP diversity, i.e. links from multiple websites hosted on different IP's will carry more weight than hundreds of links from the same site.

                  One way links are much more valuable than reciprocals. If you link back to the site that links to you are pretty much canceling out that link and any possible benefits.

                  The ideal link would be from a relevant page on a relevant authoritative site, however most of these pages sit on competitor websites. Because of the numbers involved, it is not always possible to find enough related sites that would be prepared to link to you, article syndication can make up this shortfall.

                  Another factor to consider is that each page will require different levels of linking depending on how competitive the term you are targeting is and how trusted you own page is.

                  So, in answer to your question the correct amount of links is equal to the nunder required to achieve and maintain the ranking you require.

  8. prairieprincess profile image93
    prairieprincessposted 13 years ago

    Thank you so much. That does really clarify things. Salaheen, that really makes sense. I have found that a lot of my hubs were first or second page at the beginning, but it's interesting that they usually drop, and then come back up again. Now, I get it.

    Thanks so much to everyone that answered!

  9. thisisoli profile image71
    thisisoliposted 13 years ago

    Google likes URLs which have been static over longer periods of time, preferably if they are updated occasionally.


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