http://hubpages.com/hub/Kandy-Hot-Girls … e-for-free
This is just BS.
this is cheating...that hubber didnt provide the link for the blog ...on serious notes we can't expect hub to track down each and every hub...that is why they provided with flag button...isn't it?
One more to support Pearldiver....http://hubpages.com/hub/Dranzys-work
So a site that allows people to join for free and publish content, has a new member join up and within one hour publishes a hub that is more than likely against the sites ToS.
And that is why this site deserves to be smacked?
DS.. You know exactly what I am saying irrespective of whether I've used the appropriate words of decorum or not!
And if you multiple that exact situation x 5000 per day?
As that was the region of substandard content that was mentioned by Paul in a recent forum in which he pleaded that we continue to police the problem that you are reversing back at me!
Why would you allow any single Newbie to do that?
Let alone 5000 of them?
And expect Not to be Slapped?
You assume that I am able to figure out what you're saying despite the words you're using?
Please, if you've got a magic solution to how to prevent people from posting crap, then email HubPages directly. In the meantime they do have automatic filters and there is a flagging system.
As is with any site that involves community involvement, the clean up can only happen AFTER the mess is made. No matter how many warnings or speed humps are put in the way to stop the spammers and scammers from doing what they do worst.
You can't prevent people from writing crap, but you don't have to publish it.
If you can't afford enough staff to review the influx, then turn it over to already vetted community - we DO have an interest in improving the site. As I suggested before, a simple voting system by trusted people could take care of it quickly - especially if a bounty was put on continuing efforts in that area.
Absolutely agree DS..
There are many things that can be implemented without too much of a problem. For well over a year I have made it known that Professionally, I would be more than willing to provide my expertise in both ideas and solutions to this site... As I'm sure many others would as well. But I've never been invited to submit a proposal... have you?
Of course not.
But HP has had no reason to clean up anything (and may still not have any reason).
The interest of HP and their investors is not to run a quality writing site. Their interest is to make money.
If making money requires enforcing quality more strictly, they will do that.
If it doesn't, they won't.
It remains to be seen whether Google has changed to game for HP and, if so, by how much. I'm sure HP is examining that very closely.
didnt open it but i take your word on it - needs to be stopped- presume you flagged it
No, it's the reason that Hubpages has to get stricter with content.
It's not fair to say the whole site should get caned just because of some low quality content.
Flagged, wasn't sure if I should call it spam, adult, or lacking content, all 3 would fit.
Had a look at that one, flagged it. Decided to hop until I found something that seemed of reasonable quality, took me ages! Had a bit of a flagging spree there
I find it funny because when I gone hub hopping before I have only seen a few spam type hubs, this time I got nothing but spam hubs!
Maybe all the good writers that I would normally get are not writing at the moment out of worry or something, so what is left is simply put the worst of the worst cr*p posted to this site.
Is this a good place to promote my latest Hub?
I am joking of course. It's all I can do.
Mark, you always get a laugh outa me!
Want I should hop all over your hub, leaving my muddy foot prints everywhere? See if it needs flagging?
No, no - really no need. It's quite a good hub, must be over 75 words (phew) and only 25 adverts accompanying it. I aslo chked al the speling miself and my main keyword is only menshuned 40 times.
I don't think any of them survived the last round of flagged content
Good Boy Earnest!
Maybe if you collect up all your forum posts and call them:
'843 Reasons Why Others Get Flagged'
You will make the front page!
I have up to now been reluctant to flag Hubs but now I see an excellent reason to do so! Thanks for alerting us to this ridiculous Hub. Those of us who work hard on getting good quality Hubs up are definitely being disadvantaged by such crap! It has no place on a site like HubPages.
It's THEIR BUSINESS!
They Have a Vested Interest in it Don't They?
Why are we worried?
Because OUR Business is being undermined by this Lack of Ability that you're talking about!
Shut the Damn Doors and As Business People Clean Up the Business! Isn't that what is being highlighted by this Google Slap?
Look at this BS... 40% of the site is this Crap!!
well we are partners with hub...we share revenue...so it is as much our responsibility to flag these hubs as is their responsibility to delete it...
Believe Me.... That would hold no water from a legal 'partnership' perspective... The only Legal Partners here are those who Hold shares in the enterprise!
I know I'm preaching to the converted - so to speak... As I know those who have joined this thread all do their bit on this problem..
but be real..
Why RISK the 'Partnership' with totally avoidable problems?
No More Members... delete the rubbish etc etc. - As one would in a responsible business, in which so many are reliant!
Why are these guys here?
Why are they able to even get an account?
Why has this become such a problem?
Why - Why - Why
Why has this Brilliant site been allowed to become degraded by Wuckfits?
Why is it regarded as a Content Farm?
I agree with you PD everyday I flag at least five hubs sometimes profiles..but I still see them when I check back later... Why doesn't HP have filters that trips such sordid hubs... It is not just about grammar or poor English, the content matters too.. there is a whole lot of crap out here on HubPages.
People who say you can't expect Hubpages to provide effective moderation are simply accepting that the site can never be improved.
If it isn't improved it could easily be given another Google slap.
There was an offer of something like 90 million dollars for Hubpages from AOL recently. With figures like that it is hard to believe there isn't the money to get rid of spammy hubs.
Well then... perhaps this whole let's sign em all up stuff... is merely part of a pre-sale tarting up process?
Having just been Hub Hopping it seems that too many people still think that HubPages is a blogging site, so could there not at least be a filter where you cannot publish a hub if it does not contain a certain amount of words?
Wouldn't that preclude certain poetry and such?
Poetry is a different kettle of fish, and could easily be kept out of any filter by using tags or ensuring it was created in the correct topic
I am talking about the 55 word long, single paragraph hubs, on why my dog has to pee on a particular tree or I had ricicles for my breakfast this morning. That's blogging, not hubbing and blogger.com is all set up for it and easy to use!
Poetry and such can be padded out with insights by the author, the inspiration behind the poem, an explanation of the poem's deeper meaning. I wrote a very short poem as a kid that would fill out all of 20 words of text, but the story behind it, the meaning, could make for a 1000 word hub if I was inclined to share the poem and how it came into existence.
There is and always will be dross on HubPages. That's the nature of the internet. There will always be bad apples in the barrel. It's down to the site admin and of course us guys to A) try our best to deliver top quality content and B) help keep HP as free of rubbish as possible.
All that said, there are thousands and thousands of reasons why HubPages should enjoy a better relationship between the site and the SE's.
I can't tell you how many wonderful hubs I've read. Informative, accurate, engaging, original, worthy of being the best of the rest. So whilst we're all feeling let's not forget how many great articles, works of fiction and poems there are on HP. There's tons and tons of top quality stuff.
We agree this sort of thing shouldn't be allowed on hubs. But we shouldn't all be slapped for it! If we can all help flag these pages then we can help HubPages to keep the quality up.
Please.... Take what I am saying in a constructive context...
A simple SWOT Analysis of the site provides sufficient reason to be concerned... AND To Appreciate the Strengths of the site....
I am after all assuming that a strategic plan is the basis of the trading actions of the site!
I'm certainly not Bleating for the sake of bleating!
@ Short Story WTF would that worry your sock?
You haven't done anything with this entity except make 82 irrelevant posts... WHY ARE YOU HERE?
Thank you for your kind and generous words. Since you are apparently the owner of this site, I appreciate your hospitality.
If it soothes your righteous anger somewhat to know, I have been working on a few things, but recent projects at work have really kept me busy lately. If I knew you personally had imposed a deadline I would have tried to post a hub sooner. Please forgive me. If you can find it in your heart to be patient a little longer I'll try to post a hub for you to ridicule and dismiss soon.
We are both very lucky that you are not a trout!
You rise to pesky flies so well
While we're on the subject.... Why haven't you paid your Christmas Party Subs yet?
I am absolrootary amazed at the audacity of your 'righteous anger' quip... clearly made to provide you a platform for a damn Valid excuse!! Unbelievable!
I can tell you that as someone still pretty new here that HP IS looking and I had three of my hubs unpublished (the first three when I really didn't know what I was doing) day before yesterday as "substandard." So they ARE looking and I'm busy rewriting those hubs. I do find it really offensive, though, that my three got unpublished when I go hubhopping and see so much absolute junk out there...some that don't even make sense! I could hit flag all day! The only thing wrong with my three was they were short and didn't use alot of ads, because I didn't know about all that then. But I'm learning.
I've been nominated for Hubnuggets three weeks in a row, so I don't think I'm a bad writer. So I felt a little bummed when they unpublished my work (not that it didn't need tweaking) and left up crap in the meantime.
did you find out why they were unpublished?
no, it was the usual form letter from HP telling you all the reasons why they could have been unpublished instead of THE reason.
I woke up today to see my worst earnings, once again. I haven't made but a couple of cents the last two days. I WAS averaging over $10 a day with Amazon/Adsense.
By the way, this really is a great overview: http://davidscottkane.com/article-sites … ff-google/
But.. it does miss the point I made in my last post in this thread. HP's interest is in money and that's what will drive any action or non-action.
I'm personally squarely on the side of quality and honest SEO. I think that stuff is important in a much larger context. The junk that has polluted the internet and the SEO gaming that promotes almost everything today (good and bad content) makes it harder for me to find what I want when I want it.
But: as long as there is money to be made, the pollution and gaming will continue. I like the moral high ground, but it has little to do with reality.
HP will do what it has to do. No more and no less.
I am helping in hub hopping! That is not a nice hub PD. Hope things are getting better there after the quake...
Hey thanks Maita... I found your email today.. but it was in the junk folder for some reason... thanks for that kind thought. Things are not too flash in NZ.. as people are just starting to get to grips with it all.. 150 deceased now.
ok, I know how terrible the situation there as I experienced a 7.6 earthquake in Manila in 1990s, the area was like a No Mans Land. I know kiwis are resilient and they will surpassed this tragedy.
Kinda puts a google slap into perspective don't it?
Yes... the Google Slap is nothing by comparison though I do appreciate what everyone is concerned about. What really annoys me though is not being able to publish on this site, immediately after that wuckfit published a derogatory hub directed at me called Pearldiver... since then my site is full of bugs!
I am trying to publish a tribute to those kiwis and tourists who lost their lives..
but I can't because of this wuckfit - so yeah flag the crap out of these BS people on the site. This one is sock puppet for a well established hubber in the UK.
Holy kiwi cow, you had a slam hub in your honour?!?!
Not sure how they could cause bugs for you?
That's a pretty disturbing ability for a user to have
Could it be the HP elves trying to tighten the nuts and bolts of the site to please our Google Mistress?
You seem to know who it is?
Care to give us a clue?
Yep I've got a reasonable idea... but this is HP's problem atm.
I like the Tag - caused the earthquake in NZ
That's a sick puppy who would make a cloaked remark like that at a time when we are pulling bodies out from under the rubble!
But the point is as he states... he can do that on this site!!!
And that is also a problem for HP if they willingly allow such slanderous statements to be made by their members - Publicly!
Someone feels safe behind their screen don't they?
Let me save you the problem of searching for this 'User' with the very Short Member...
This kind of speaks for itself and the overall problem:
JasonCooley 9 hours ago
The more I read your writing the more you seem to boast about being published on hubpages as if there were some standards to getting published on this site. I can see why my 14 word article bothers you so much, since having it posted on hubpages exploits this site as a place where anything can get published tarnishing your pathetic little “achievement” and exposing it as nothing. I know this makes it that much harder to hold on to your delusion, but deal with it. Getting published on hubpages does not make you a writer. The fact that you went third person in your comment absolutely ratifies the fact that you are pathetic. For anyone reading these comments and doesn't know what's going on you can see the diatribe that inspired this Haiku here: http://hubpages.com/hub/Shameless-A-Haiku
• which caused earthquake
• caused climate change
• litters in the ocean
• in new zealand
JasonCooley 10 hours ago
Why would I need a proxy server? Honestly, I will take your advice and not give up my day job as a real writer who works with real editors for publications with real standards. I know you want to be a real writer so bad that you are trying to hold hubpages to a higher standard than it deserves, but the reality of the situation is you just can't write and are stuck here. I understand the truth is a bitter pill for you to swallow and I felt a little bad about having to bring it up, but remember you started this dialog with your diatribe on a fun and simple little haiku.
So this Crap Sits On the Site For How Long???
Wow, that was a real quality hub, NOT!
Just found me a gem of a cr*p hub
http:// hubpages.com/hop/#/Online-Advertising-and-Marketing (don't want to give a backlink, remove spaces if you care to flag)
Not a single word of text that I could see, maybe one of them invisible ink hubs?
...wow.....that's really bad....wtf?....i don't understand people.....yor being attacked??????
....hopefully the folks who manage this site....take a look and correct this....
Yep........... This Thread is Over From Me....... Thanks all for contributing... perhaps HP can answer the other thread?
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