This is WHY this site deserves to get caned.

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   Pearldiverposted 14 years ago

   http://hubpages.com/hub/Kandy-Hot-Girls … e-for-free
   
   This is just BS.

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      pisean282311posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      this is cheating...that hubber didnt provide the link for the blog ...on serious notes we can't expect hub to track down each and every hub...that is why they provided with flag button...isn't it?

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      kannanwritesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      One more to support Pearldiver....http://hubpages.com/hub/Dranzys-work

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      darksideposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      So a site that allows people to join for free and publish content, has a new member join up and within one hour publishes a hub that is more than likely against the sites ToS.
      
      And that is why this site deserves to be smacked?

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         Pearldiverposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         DS.. You know exactly what I am saying irrespective of whether I've used the appropriate words of decorum or not!
         
         And if you multiple that exact situation x 5000 per day?
         
         As that was the region of substandard content that was mentioned by Paul in a recent forum in which he pleaded that we continue to police the problem that you are reversing back at me!
         
         Why would you allow any single Newbie to do that?
         Let alone 5000 of them?
         And expect Not to be Slapped?

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            darksideposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            You assume that I am able to figure out what you're saying despite the words you're using?
            
            Please, if you've got a magic solution to how to prevent people from posting crap, then email HubPages directly. In the meantime they do have automatic filters and there is a flagging system.
            
            As is with any site that involves community involvement, the clean up can only happen AFTER the mess is made. No matter how many warnings or speed humps are put in the way to stop the spammers and scammers from doing what they do worst.

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               Pcunixposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               You can't prevent people from writing crap, but you don't have to publish it.
               
               If you can't afford enough staff to review the influx, then turn it over to already vetted community - we DO have an interest in improving the site.  As I suggested before, a simple voting system by trusted people could take care of it quickly - especially if a bounty was put on continuing efforts in that area.

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               Pearldiverposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Absolutely agree DS..
               
               There are many things that can be implemented without too much of a problem.  For well over a year I have made it known that Professionally, I would be more than willing to provide my expertise in both ideas and solutions to this site... As I'm sure many others would as well. But I've never been invited to submit a proposal... have you?

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                  Pcunixposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Of course not.
                  
                  But HP has had no reason to clean up anything (and may still not have any reason).
                  
                  The interest of HP and their investors is not to run a quality writing site. Their interest is to make money.
                  
                  If making money requires enforcing quality more strictly, they will do that.
                  
                  If it doesn't, they won't.
                  
                  It remains to be seen whether Google has changed to game for HP and, if so, by how much. I'm sure HP is examining that very closely.

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                     Pearldiverposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     Got It In One!

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      Froggy213posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      flagged

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   CASE1WORKERposted 14 years ago

   didnt open it but i take your word on it - needs to be stopped- presume you flagged it

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   WryLiltposted 14 years ago

   No, it's the reason that Hubpages has to get stricter with content.
   
   http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/68639#post1498432
   
   It's not fair to say the whole site should get caned just because of some low quality content.

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   kirstenblogposted 14 years ago

   Flagged, wasn't sure if I should call it spam, adult, or lacking content, all 3 would fit.

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   Pearldiverposted 14 years ago

   http://hubpages.com/hop/#/Not-A-Penny-S … Free-Bingo

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      kirstenblogposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Had a look at that one, flagged it. Decided to hop until I found something that seemed of reasonable quality, took me ages! Had a bit of a flagging spree there
      
      I find it funny because when I gone hub hopping before I have only seen a few spam type hubs, this time I got nothing but spam hubs!
      
      Maybe all the good writers that I would normally get are not writing at the moment out of worry or something, so what is left is simply put the worst of the worst cr*p posted to this site.

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         earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks for the reminder Pearldiver, I just did the same as you did Kirsten. I flagged quite a few while I was there too.

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   Mark Ewbieposted 14 years ago

   Is this a good place to promote my latest Hub?
   
   I am joking of course.  It's all I can do.

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      kirstenblogposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Mark, you always get a laugh outa me!
      Want I should hop all over your hub, leaving my muddy foot prints everywhere? See if it needs flagging?

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         Mark Ewbieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         No, no - really no need.  It's quite a good hub, must be over 75 words (phew) and only 25 adverts accompanying it.  I aslo chked al the speling miself and my main keyword is only menshuned 40 times.

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            kirstenblogposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Well thats my mind put to rest then

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      Pearldiverposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Hell Sorry....
      
      I don't think any of them survived the last round of flagged content
      
      Good Boy Earnest!
      
      Maybe if you collect up all your forum posts and call them:
      
      '843 Reasons Why Others Get Flagged'
      
      You will make the front page!
      (Unflagged!)

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   tonymac04posted 14 years ago

   I have up to now been reluctant to flag Hubs but now I see an excellent reason to do so! Thanks for alerting us to this ridiculous Hub. Those of us who work hard on getting good quality Hubs up are definitely being disadvantaged by such crap! It has no place on a site like HubPages.

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   Pearldiverposted 14 years ago

   @ pisean282311
   
   Why NOT?
   
   It's THEIR BUSINESS!
   
   They Have a Vested Interest in it Don't They?
   
   Why are we worried?
   
   Because OUR Business is being undermined by this Lack of Ability that you're talking about!
   Shut the Damn Doors and As Business People Clean Up the Business! Isn't that what is being highlighted by this Google Slap?
   
   Look at this BS... 40% of the site is this Crap!!
   
   http://hubpages.com/hop/#/great-photographers

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      pisean282311posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      well we are partners with hub...we share revenue...so it is as much our responsibility to flag these hubs as is their responsibility to delete it...

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         Pearldiverposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Believe Me.... That would hold no water from a legal 'partnership' perspective... The only Legal Partners here are those who Hold shares in the enterprise!
         
         I know I'm preaching to the converted - so to speak... As I know those who have joined this thread all do their bit on this problem..
         but be real..
         Why RISK the 'Partnership' with totally avoidable problems? 
         No More Members... delete the rubbish etc etc. - As one would in a responsible business, in which so many are reliant!

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   Pearldiverposted 14 years ago

   http://hubpages.com/hop/#/gopikahot
   
   http://hubpages.com/hop/#/Kohls-Printable-Coupons
   
   Why are these guys here?
   
   Why are they able to even get an account?
   
   Why has this become such a problem?
   
   Why - Why - Why
   
   Why has this Brilliant site been allowed to become degraded by Wuckfits?
   
   Why is it regarded as a Content Farm?

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      Baileybearposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      are you leaving PD because of some morons?

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    skyfireposted 14 years ago

    Word of the day : Wuckfits

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       kirstenblogposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Thats my new favourite word!

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          Pearldiverposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I claim it completely - it was made in NZ..
          But I used it in a forum once before I bought the domain and a very smart not so wuckfit grabbed it before me!

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    sofsposted 14 years ago

    I agree with you PD everyday I flag at least five hubs sometimes profiles..but I still see them when I check back later... Why doesn't HP have filters that trips such sordid hubs... It is not just about grammar or poor English, the content matters too.. there is a whole lot of crap out here on HubPages.

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    Will Apseposted 14 years ago

    People who say you can't expect Hubpages to provide effective moderation are simply accepting that the site can never be improved.
    
    If it isn't improved it could easily be given another Google slap.
    
    
    There was an offer of something like 90 million dollars for Hubpages from AOL recently. With figures like that it is hard to believe there isn't the money to get rid of spammy hubs.

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    Pearldiverposted 14 years ago

    Well then... perhaps this whole let's sign em all up stuff... is merely part of a pre-sale tarting up process?

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    CMHypnoposted 14 years ago

    Having just been Hub Hopping it seems that too many people still think that HubPages is a blogging site, so could there not at least be a filter where you cannot publish a hub if it does not contain a certain amount of words?

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       ShortStoryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Wouldn't that preclude certain poetry and such?

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          CMHypnoposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Poetry is a different kettle of fish, and could easily be kept out of any filter by using tags or ensuring it was created in the correct topic
          
          I am talking about the 55 word long, single paragraph hubs, on why my dog has to pee on a particular tree or I had ricicles for my breakfast this morning. That's blogging, not hubbing and blogger.com is all set up for it and easy to use!

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          kirstenblogposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Poetry and such can be padded out with insights by the author, the inspiration behind the poem, an explanation of the poem's deeper meaning. I wrote a very short poem as a kid that would fill out all of 20 words of text, but the story behind it, the meaning, could make for a 1000 word hub if I was inclined to share the poem and how it came into existence.

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    frogdroppingposted 14 years ago

    There is and always will be dross on HubPages. That's the nature of the internet. There will always be bad apples in the barrel. It's down to the site admin and of course us guys to A) try our best to deliver top quality content and B) help keep HP as free of rubbish as possible.
    
    All that said, there are thousands and thousands of reasons why HubPages should enjoy a better relationship between the site and the SE's.
    
    I can't tell you how many wonderful hubs I've read. Informative, accurate, engaging, original, worthy of being the best of the rest. So whilst we're all feeling let's not forget how many great articles, works of fiction and poems there are on HP. There's tons and tons of top quality stuff.

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    Carl Citrinposted 14 years ago

    We agree this sort of thing shouldn't be allowed on hubs.  But we shouldn't all be slapped for it!  If we can all help flag these pages then we can help HubPages to keep the quality up.

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    Pearldiverposted 14 years ago

    Please.... Take what I am saying in a constructive context...
    A simple SWOT Analysis of the site provides sufficient reason to be concerned... AND To Appreciate the Strengths of the site....   
    I am after all assuming that a strategic plan is the basis of the trading actions of the site!
    I'm certainly not Bleating for the sake of bleating!
    
    
    @ Short Story WTF would that worry your sock?
    You haven't done anything with this entity except make 82 irrelevant posts... WHY ARE YOU HERE?

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       ShortStoryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Thank you for your kind and generous words. Since you are apparently the owner of this site, I appreciate your hospitality.
       
       
       If it soothes your righteous anger somewhat to know, I have been working on a few things, but recent projects at work have really kept me busy lately. If I knew you personally had imposed a deadline I would have tried to post a hub sooner. Please forgive me. If you can find it in your heart to be patient a little longer I'll try to post a hub for you to ridicule and dismiss soon.

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          Pearldiverposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          
          
          We are both very lucky that you are not a trout!
          You rise to pesky flies so well
          While we're on the subject.... Why haven't you paid your Christmas Party Subs yet?
          I am absolrootary amazed at the audacity of your 'righteous anger' quip... clearly made to provide you a platform for a damn Valid excuse!! Unbelievable!

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             ShortStoryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             I'll get back to you just as soon as I figure out what any of that was supposed to mean...

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    DIYweddingplannerposted 14 years ago

    I can tell you that as someone still pretty new here that HP IS looking and I had three of my hubs unpublished (the first three when I really didn't know what I was doing) day before yesterday as "substandard."  So they ARE looking and I'm busy rewriting those hubs. I do find it really offensive, though, that my three got unpublished when I go hubhopping and see so much absolute junk out there...some that don't even make sense!  I could hit flag all day!  The only thing wrong with my three was they were short and didn't use alot of ads, because I didn't know about all that then.  But I'm learning.
    I've been nominated for Hubnuggets three weeks in a row, so I don't think I'm a bad writer. So I felt a little bummed when they unpublished my work (not that it didn't need tweaking) and left up crap in the meantime.

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       Baileybearposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       did you find out why they were unpublished?

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          DIYweddingplannerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          no, it was the usual form letter from HP telling you all the reasons why they could have been unpublished instead of THE reason.

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             Baileybearposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             that's so frustrating

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             DIYweddingplannerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Extremely.  Two of them I knew what the trouble was...one, I couldn't figure out. Hey, I'm good, but not a mindreader!

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    Mikeydoesposted 14 years ago

    I woke up today to see my worst earnings, once again.   I haven't made but a couple of cents the last two days. I WAS averaging over $10 a day with Amazon/Adsense.

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    Pcunixposted 14 years ago

    By the way, this really is a great overview: http://davidscottkane.com/article-sites … ff-google/
    
    But.. it does miss the point I made in my last post in this thread.  HP's interest is in money and that's what will drive any action or non-action.
    
    I'm personally squarely on the side of quality and honest SEO.  I think that stuff is important in a much larger context.  The junk that has polluted the internet and the SEO gaming that promotes almost everything today (good and bad content) makes it harder for me to find what I want when I want it.
    
    But: as long as there is money to be made, the pollution and gaming will continue. I like the moral high ground, but it has little to do with reality.
    
    HP will do what it has to do. No more and no less.

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    kimberlyslyricsposted 14 years ago

    I never get slapped anymore :

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    kimberlyslyricsposted 14 years ago

    Or canned :

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       ShortStoryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Sounds like a request for 'adult' entertainment!

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       recommend1posted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Oh - ok then, pop over with a beer or two and we will see what we can come up with    How are you doing atm Kimberley ?

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    prettydarkhorseposted 14 years ago

    I am helping in hub hopping! That is not a nice hub PD. Hope things are getting better there after the quake...

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       Pearldiverposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Hey thanks Maita... I found your email today.. but it was in the junk folder for some reason...  thanks for that kind thought. Things are not too flash in NZ.. as people are just starting to get to grips with it all.. 150 deceased now.

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          prettydarkhorseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          ok, I know how terrible the situation there as I experienced a 7.6 earthquake in Manila in 1990s, the area was like a No Mans Land. I know kiwis are resilient and they will surpassed this tragedy.

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          kirstenblogposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Kinda puts a google slap into perspective don't it?

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    Pearldiverposted 14 years ago

    Yes... the Google Slap is nothing by comparison though I do appreciate what everyone is concerned about.  What really annoys me though is not being able to publish on this site, immediately after that wuckfit published a derogatory hub directed at me called Pearldiver... since then my site is full of bugs!
    I am trying to publish a tribute to those kiwis and tourists who lost their lives..
    but I can't because of this wuckfit - so yeah flag the crap out of these BS people on the site.  This one is sock puppet for a well established hubber in the UK.

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       kirstenblogposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Holy kiwi cow, you had a slam hub in your honour?!?!
       Not sure how they could cause bugs for you?
       That's a pretty disturbing ability for a user to have
       Could it be the HP elves trying to tighten the nuts and bolts of the site to please our Google Mistress?

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       IzzyMposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       You seem to know who it is?
       Care to give us a clue?

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          Pearldiverposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Yep I've got a reasonable idea... but this is HP's problem atm.
          
          I like the Tag - caused the earthquake in NZ
          
          That's a sick puppy who would make a cloaked remark like that at a time when we are pulling bodies out from under the rubble!
          
          But the point is as he states... he can do that on this site!!!
          
          And that is also a problem for HP if they willingly allow such slanderous statements to be made by their members - Publicly!
          Someone feels safe behind their screen don't they?
          
          

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    Pearldiverposted 14 years ago

    Let me save you the problem of searching for this 'User' with the very Short Member...
    
    This kind of speaks for itself and the overall problem:
    
    JasonCooley 9 hours ago
    The more I read your writing the more you seem to boast about being published on hubpages as if there were some standards to getting published on this site. I can see why my 14 word article bothers you so much, since having it posted on hubpages exploits this site as a place where anything can get published tarnishing your pathetic little “achievement” and exposing it as nothing. I know this makes it that much harder to hold on to your delusion, but deal with it. Getting published on hubpages does not make you a writer. The fact that you went third person in your comment absolutely ratifies the fact that you are pathetic. For anyone reading these comments and doesn't know what's going on you can see the diatribe that inspired this Haiku here: http://hubpages.com/hub/Shameless-A-Haiku
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    •    garbage
    •    boring
    •    pathetic
    •    snitch
    •    pearldiver
    •    talentless
    •    which caused earthquake
    •    caused climate change
    •    litters in the ocean
    •    in new zealand
    
    JasonCooley 10 hours ago
    Why would I need a proxy server? Honestly, I will take your advice and not give up my day job as a real writer who works with real editors for publications with real standards. I know you want to be a real writer so bad that you are trying to hold hubpages to a higher standard than it deserves, but the reality of the situation is you just can't write and are stuck here. I understand the truth is a bitter pill for you to swallow and I felt a little bad about having to bring it up, but remember you started this dialog with your diatribe on a fun and simple little haiku.
    
    So this Crap Sits On the Site For How Long???

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       kirstenblogposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Wow, that was a real quality hub, NOT!
       Just found me a gem of a cr*p hub
       
       http:// hubpages.com/hop/#/Online-Advertising-and-Marketing (don't want to give a backlink, remove spaces if you care to flag)
       
       Not a single word of text that I could see, maybe one of them invisible ink hubs?

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       SomewayOuttaHereposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       ...wow.....that's really bad....wtf?....i don't understand people.....yor being attacked??????
       
       ....hopefully the folks who manage this site....take a look and correct this....

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    Pearldiverposted 14 years ago

    Yep........... This Thread is Over From Me....... Thanks all for contributing... perhaps HP can answer the other thread?
    
    
    
    
    
    
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