On page 8 of Google

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   Delaney Knowsposted 14 years ago

   Ok, I know 8 pages back probably isn't going to get many hits, but my first (and only) hub is there. I'm thrilled to see it anywhere.
   
   Questions: Is that and indication of anything at all?
   
   And I am still having trouble understanding how to use the keyword tool and pick out the best keywords. I've read several hubs and tried their step-by-step system, but I just don't get it. Should I just keep reading or does anyone have any other advice?

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      J Sunhawkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Keep reading. Understanding keywords is an osmosis process. As you study more and more, the lightbulbs start going on.
      
      You might try Keyword Academy. That's the first place I stopped at. KA gives you a 30 day trial for a buck. It has forums to ask questions and find answers. Thirty days won't make you a pro, but it will point you in directions to find answers.
      
      Good luck.

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         Delaney Knowsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Thank you,  J Sunhawk. I've signed up for the 30 day trial.

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      Mikeydoesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I use adwords and think of them by myself. Sometimes the best keywords are in your head.

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      TerryGlposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I read the hub and it is very good. It is an interesting topic and the keyword hoarder is owned by some major sites that have pushed your hub down. It is a competitive keyword.
      
      My suggestion is going for a long tail keyword. To give an example I have a site on snoring. I cannot compete with the keyword of snoring. What I did was I used the longtail keywords of my husband snores, my partner snores and it worked well.
      
      Might I suggest my husband is a hoarder might be a great title for the first text module and chase that longtail keyword. That should be enough for you to climb higher in the search engine.
      
      I thought if I was to search I would be more specific and type in my wife is a hoarder.
      
      Good luck, with the way you write I am sure you will be quite successful here on Hubpages.

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   simeonvisserposted 14 years ago

   Well, congratulations on writing your first hub but page 8 is terrible: very few people will find it there. Keep learning and you'll start to rank better!

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      DIYweddingplannerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Gee, that was encouraging!  Some of us are happy to show up in Google at all if we're new!   What happened to the supportive HP community?  
      
      Delaney, Don't listen to him and don't worry, it'll keep moving up.

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         simeonvisserposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Sorry, but that's the truth and I'm providing some support in the sense that I answered the OP's question: "Is that and indication of anything at all?". Page 8 is, indeed, terrible if you wish to get traffic. Statistics show that the far majority don't bother with pages 2 and onwards and the far majority of clicks are on result #1 of page 1. Others have already given suggestions on long tail keywords and all that so that's a good start for future hubs.

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            DIYweddingplannerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            It's not good, true, but I think there are nicer ways to put things.  I  find it amazing and sometimes apalling the way people speak to each other in these forums.  We're here to encourage each other...maybe it's my Southern hospitality showing!

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   katiem2posted 14 years ago

   Thats fantastic, its a start you keep on keepin on

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   howtosoftmod11posted 14 years ago

   Those are really good results. !!

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   Rising Carenposted 14 years ago

   Page 8 isn't that good but it's not that bad either.
   
   Page 1 = awesome
   Page 2 = good
   Pages 3 - 10 = bad but can be easily promoted with enough effort
   Pages 11+ = terrible.
   
   So at page 8, with a bit of promoting and better keyword density you might get it up higher.

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      Delaney Knowsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks everyone...and please, don't fight over this! I do need to hear the truth, but at the same time, I'm happy to have appeared anywhere on google, lol...kind of like seeing your name in the paper.
      
      I know I have a very long ways to go and I appreciate all the advice I can get.
      
      TerryGI, I especially appreciate your suggesting the long tail keyword. I am going to make some changes right now. It will take time to grasp the keyword thing and a specific suggestion is what I need. Thank you so much!

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         Delaney Knowsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I went back and edited and added to my subtitles. If anyone has any suggestions I will appreciate them.
         
         Um...maybe I'm not supposed to do this here...Should I be in the complete hub make-over forum?

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         TerryGlposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks Delaney.
         
         Just to help that little bit more. Your html code looks like this.
         
         Heading One Tag - <h1>I Live With a Hoarder - How I cope.</h1>
         
         Heading 2 Tag - <h2 class="subtitle">My Husband Is  a Hoarder</h2>
         
         This is what the search engines look at. The tags tell the search engine what the page is about. They put a lot of importance on the H1 tag, so looking at the inner workings of the code should give you a better understanding of title choice chasing those elusive keywords.

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            Delaney Knowsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Thank you...So are you saying I should change my  title as well?

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   TerryGlposted 14 years ago

   I am not too sure you can now. But your title is the keyword phrase your chasing. It is much easier to rank when your keyword is in the title, which is then also in the url.
   
   Sprinkle your keyword lightly through your content and your half way there seo wise. Its all a learning curve and these can be looked upon as being the basics in writing a hub that should get a high search engine position, as long as the competition is not to great.

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      Delaney Knowsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry to run this into the ground, but look what's on page 7 now:
      
      On page 8 of GoogleHeading One Tag - <h1>I Live With a Hoarder - How I cope.</h1> Heading 2 Tag - <h2 class="subtitle">My Husband Is a Hoarder</h2> ...
      hubpages.com/forum/topic/69405
      
      Wonder how it picked that up?

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