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Does anyone know anything about poetry?

  1. bonnebartron profile image77
    bonnebartronposted 6 years ago

    It's funny to me, half the hubs I hop are professed "Poetry", Ironically most of them are just strung together word vomits. I have read a few that are amazing,a couple moving..etc  But mostly, just a whole ton of crap. Yep. I know, it's looked down on to say bad things about fellow hubbers on here, and it takes a lot of courage to write... blah blah blah!
    But reality is, most people just scan the damn poems and then add some lame ass comment just so you will go check out their hubs too... If you are a writer, an artist or even a high school teacher, I'd love to read your poems and encourage you to dissect to the degree of complete mutilation, any and all of my writings.

    1. Insight1987 profile image61
      Insight1987posted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Most people, by definition, are not very creative.

      Most people, at one point or another, will try to write poetry.

      Therein lies the problem. smile

      I'll check your poems out.

    2. qwark profile image58
      qwarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      We are not allowed to ask others to read our hubs.
      I will offer you a poem It took me took months to write.
      If you'd like to read it, YOUR DECISION, here it is.
      If you should read it, pls offer a comment: praise or criticism. either is acceptable.  smile:

      1. Pearldiver profile image81
        Pearldiverposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        I WAS Going to read it..... BUT I'm not a gate crasher and don't have an invitation.. so I guess I will wait for the review! smile

        However, I had to laugh at your statement that it took you so long to write! smile
        I personally also write poetry VERY Slowly and ask my readers to read my works slowly... to understand the full context in how they are written! big_smile

        1. qwark profile image58
          qwarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Hi Pearl:
          It's a very long, "heavy" rhyming poem.
          Some whose, English vocabulary is not up to par, will not understand much of it.
          Those who pride themselves in their command of my native language; English, seem to appreciate the message and the work that it took to me to make sure that the rythm, rhyming. pauses and stops, carried thru to the end.
          Thanks for the response.  smile:

          1. Pearldiver profile image81
            Pearldiverposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            No Worries.... I Gate Crashed It big_smile

            OMG.. You will Hate my comments on it then... but Before you delete them.. consider what I AM Saying Constructively - I also write longish articles and poetry.... The KEY is Holding The Reader... that is where I was coming from in my comments...
            It's All Good Qwark smile

            1. qwark profile image58
              qwarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              I love all responses!
              I certainly would NOT delete your critique!
              Yours was from the heart and honestly appreciated!
              I proof read this poem dozens of times and thought I had it right and someone, like yourself, took the time to read thru it slowwwly, and found a word I had used improperly. I thanked him and changed it.
              Sometimes one is "too close to the forest to see the trees!"
              Who is perfect? Certainly not I!   smile:
              Thanks  smile:

            2. lyndre profile image80
              lyndreposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              Hi pearldiver.

              If you are in the mood for more comments.
              If have written a few poems and would appreciate a poet of your standing giving me some pointers. Let me know if my foot long needs more filling.big_smile

    3. Rafini profile image87
      Rafiniposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Wow, I think that's really rather harsh.  Poetry is a class unto itself with rules or no rules - quite different than any other style of writing.  When I find poetry that I don't understand, I move on because if i don't understand it that means it's not to my taste but doesn't mean it's poor poetry.

    4. Several Ninjas profile image80
      Several Ninjasposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      unfortunately what you say is true. a lot of people who think their creative, who spend a lot of time telling others how creative they are, really arent at all. poetry isnt just random slapped together words. disjointed nonsense. lunatic rantings and ravings. poetry has rules. each type of poetry form has its own guidelines. its how a person expresses themselves within those boundaries is what makes it beautiful.

      i think you nailed it with 'strung together word vomits'.

    5. Cheeky Girl profile image72
      Cheeky Girlposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Poetry is something that you can write and either be good at, or write and keep at it, and learn how poetry works. If you are a writer, you can become a good poet in time.

      Musically, if you dig music, then try to put into poetry the things you have a feeling for in music. Pick themes and subjects that you like and can write about. Write what you think others will like, or may enjoy.

      I have read some sad and melancholy poems and they are amongst my personal favorites. But poetry can be upbeat and beautiful too. Your poetry says a lot about you. I would encourage people to try writing poetry, we can all write poetry, there is a different kind of poetry style to suit everyone...

  2. Pearldiver profile image81
    Pearldiverposted 6 years ago

    I'm not sure I qualify on the terms you are laying out here as I haven't yet had an allergic reaction to what I have written... and I don't think anyone else has either hmm
    Oh, hang on.... yep, one of the passing trolls here, decided that I he didn't like my work (but that's quite common on the net when you DO write well!) hmm
    Maybe if you hold your breath while you read... you can be the first to stain my waaaallllllll? big_smile
    You tell me... I would appreciate your candor. smile

  3. To Start Again profile image81
    To Start Againposted 6 years ago

    I figure about fifty percent of the time, I find great poetry and the other fifty percent I find not so great poetry here. I know my taste is not the same as some others and what I do not like, others may. I know I tend to stick with a particular style when I write it and also tend to appreciate specific styles when I read as well. Just as I'm certain there are some who think I can't write poetry to save my life and maybe a few who might think its not crap, I understand that what I don't like might be the bee's knees to another reader smile To each his own, right?

    And if you are looking for great poetry, there are some really amazing poets here. I would love to give you a list but I am certain I would forget someone!

  4. Cagsil profile image61
    Cagsilposted 6 years ago

    I'm not a poet, but I do write poetry from time to time, whenever I'm in the mood. And, yes, I'll agree, I've seen some really poorly written stuff. lol

  5. Pearldiver profile image81
    Pearldiverposted 6 years ago

    Qwark... Cheers, yes it was from the heart, thanks for understanding that of me. smile
    Did you understand completely what I meant?
    And How each verse then flows into your grand finale better, if you alter the last line of each verse that way? hmm
    If you do, then you will learn the same way I did. It doesn't 'Fit' logically, but it does fit the flow.. slowly and surely... and there, I believe lies the key to maintaining interested readers. hmm
    Good Luck.. experiment.. if you ignore the trees and the forest, you will see the stream.. believe me... that is what gives the life to everything! smile

    1. qwark profile image58
      qwarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for becoming a follower!! (friend)
      I write very little poetry.
      I considered writing a history of the earth and man and putting it to rhyme and didn't realize how hard it would be until I began to try to express the profundity of it in rhyme!
      I have an amazing writing vocabulary and have been accused of "trying to impress" with my use of "big words," but that, of course is a "left field" attitude.
      I've said this so many times before and it's worth repeating:" How can one describe the essence of a rose without language?"
      I appreciate ya!  smile:

  6. Daniel Carter profile image74
    Daniel Carterposted 6 years ago

    There was a hubber here called AmIDeadYet. She was schooled in the history and mechanics of poetry and could write in forms most "poets" had never heard of before. I wept at a few her works, they were so moving. I've tried to look her up about 8 or 9 months ago, but I think she's completely moved on from HP and probably has a publisher by now. I believe she was from the UK.

    There is another young guy here, whose avatar I've since forgotten who wrote somewhat like the controversial Allen Ginsberg of "Howl" fame. If you don't know about it, do some Google research. Rather visionary and sort of like a dream state in writing. Harsh and vivid. He has a very distinct voice and I expect great things for him.

    But there are hubbers here who are very fine poets indeed. Those who are highly skilled usually don't hang in the forums, and you have to pretty much discover them on your own. However, that said, poetry is like music. Stylistically we gravitate to what we like. Some people like classics, others like country, and you can be as much of a snob about it as you want, but in the end, the art form is about the connection you make with those words, and it becomes an emotional thing many times. Being a harsh critic is not necessarily being a snob.

    I've written song lyrics for decades. It doesn't mean I'm good at it, but I know how to write a lyric and and I have good idea of what is considered good in poetry.

    Poets here, who really feel driven need to write poems by the pound and constantly push themselves in breaking new ground. If you're not willing to do that, take up knitting or something.

  7. Pearldiver profile image81
    Pearldiverposted 6 years ago

    Well said Daniel...

    I would love to be able to understand how to put music to words!

    I Love Music and I Love Poetry.. but I struggle with the Frets smile

    1. Daniel Carter profile image74
      Daniel Carterposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Fret not. Use a keyboard! wink

      I'll bet that with your musical propensity that you wouldn't have much trouble marrying words with music, or music with words. Just takes some practice. I've written music both ways, and I still don't know which is best, but what matters is the end result and if it's what you intended.

      1. Pearldiver profile image81
        Pearldiverposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Mate.. you don't know how much that advice means to someone who can only play lead well.. on bass... Thank you very much Daniel, I never even considered that at all. smile
        Cheers Muchly smile

  8. Ritsos profile image45
    Ritsosposted 6 years ago

    Poetry is in the eye of the beholder ;-)

    1. qwark profile image58
      qwarkposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      ...I couldn't agree with ya more..

  9. camlo profile image87
    camloposted 6 years ago

    I think anyone interested in this thread might find this useful Hub interesting: http://hubpages.com/hub/poetry-or-prose

  10. Hunbbel Meer profile image85
    Hunbbel Meerposted 6 years ago

    I really don't know anything TECHNICAL about poetry, like rhymes etc. But I do write some, write directly from my heart.
    Here is a link, you can check that out, point out my mistakes, and LET ME KNOW SOME TECHNICAL ASPECTS AND TERMINOLOGIES smile please, that will be of great help.


    P.S: In this poem, you will find links of my 2 other songs that I wrote and composed.