Hubs being voted down before they have been published

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   michifusposted 13 years ago

   I have noticed that hubs are being moderated before the are published, and are being voted down when they are incomplete.
   
   I have started writing my hubs straight into the capsules, but I'm getting moderated before they are completed. I am saving as I go so I don't lose anything, but they remain unpublished until I am happy with them.
   
   My last one went down to 45 score before it had even been published, and my current hub has just dropped a point, and I am still writing it!
   
   Are the moderators getting ahead of the game and moderating too early? I have noticed that the hub I am setting up has already been read by 4 people, and Im not even nearly halfway done yet!

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      Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      "voting down" and "moderating" are two different things. 
      
      Other Hubbers can "vote down" your Hub using the buttons at the bottom of the Hub, but that has a very small influence on your HubScore.
      
      "Moderating" refers to a HubPages team member looking at your Hub and deciding whether it meets HubPages criteria or not.  That won't happen until the Hub is published, and even then it may not happen for some time.
      
      What you're seeing is the natural fluctuation in HubScore as you write your Hub.  Don't worry about it, Hubscores aren't important anyway.

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         michifusposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         

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      Jason Menayanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      That's impossible. The moderators are way too busy moderating actually-published Hubs to bother looking at stuff that hasn't been published yet.
      
      No one except staff could possibly see Hubs that are not yet published, so no one can be rating them down, either.
      
      I would ignore HubScore altogether until a few weeks after a Hub has been published. Before then, it's going to jump around a bit. Before it's published, it's absolutely meaningless.

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         Rosie2010posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Hi Jason, thanks for letting us know.

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   ryankettposted 13 years ago

   I am surprised that you have not worked out in 12 months that the rating system actually has very little impact on hubscore.

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      michifusposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      My hubs vary in hubscore by 10 points or so, even though traffic remains consistent. This has nothing to do with the voting system Ryan? Why is it there then?
      
      Anyway, its not about voting up or down by hubbers, as the hub is not published, so only moderators can view it.

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   skyfireposted 13 years ago

   I think those 4 views are your own, generated while editing the hubs because hubstat calculates it before/after publishing. I doubt moderators are checking unpublished queue because there are thousands of published hubs to moderate.

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      michifusposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Hmm - could well be. Thanks Skyfire.
      
      Ill go back to writing them in word I think, and then just upload them when they are done. Problem solved!

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   2uesdayposted 13 years ago

   Hi, I do n't think they are being moderated by the team before you publish them. The reason I say this is because sometimes they rise or fall in score, often the score rises a little if a hub is left unpublished. It must be an automatic adjustment to do with a type of 'prediction' such as the 'forecast' you can see on the top of your hubs for $'s in the box where you can see your word count.
   
   I would be surprised if the team who must be working flat out at the moment had time to visit unpublished hubs. As others have said it registers your own visits before you publish.
   
   In the same way that the hubs I had to edit to comply with the Amazon changes sometimes showed red arrows, however the visits were my own to edit the hubs.

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   2uesdayposted 13 years ago

   Opps,  Marisa has summed it up much better than I have while I was typing this.

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   psycheskinnerposted 13 years ago

   Basically an unpublished hub still has a hub score, which--given that it has no traffic--tends to suck, and suck even more as time passes.

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   michifusposted 13 years ago

   Thanks Jason - was a bit perplexed this morning, and my brain must have still been asleep. Thanks for taking the time to answer this. I have now gone back to ignoring hubscore and I will just getting on with writing more hubs.
   
   A much more worthwhile use of my time

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   psycheskinnerposted 13 years ago

   It would be more logical if hubs didn't get a score until they were published.

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      Rosie2010posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, I agree.  It makes more sense that way.

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