Improvement In Hub Ranking

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   hassamposted 16 years ago

   How should I improve the rankings of my hubs that have slipped down in google rankings?......can any one help?

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      Mark Knowlesposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      This question is rather vague. Can you be more specific? And there are outside factors involved, particularly if you are targeting a competitive keyword or phrase.

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   relacheposted 16 years ago

   Here are my theories and ideas, How to Improve Your HubScore

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      Ryan Hupferposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      Hassan - there's definitely some great advice in that Hub...check it out and let us know what you think. How is your traffic looking for the Hubs?

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         hassamposted 16 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks for the link relache. Actually I was talking about improvement of google ranking. Recently I saw some of my hubs slip down in google ranking, I don't know what to do. So if any one of the experienced hubbers could help please give some tips.
         
         and Ryan if you read my my profile name a bit carefully then you might have noticed that the name is "hassam" not "hassan" ,anyways thanks for the reply.

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            Ryan Hupferposted 16 years agoin reply to this

            Sorry, hassam...don't take it personally, I've got the eyes of a 75 year-old.

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               Mark Knowlesposted 16 years agoin reply to this

               Ryam - it is the glasses

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                  hassamposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                  You've got sone sharp 75 year old eyes

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            relacheposted 16 years agoin reply to this

            I've always felt that any improvements in the content of a hub will boost both internal or external rankings, which was why I offered that link.

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   hassamposted 16 years ago

   Mark, actually my best hub that has slipped so far is about 'windows xp password retrieval' initially it was on the main page now it has slipped down a bit, it may be getting competion from some place but I don't know how to bring it to the main page.
   
   I actually blogged some of the text of the hub on my blogger blog, could that be a factor?

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      Mark Knowlesposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      I don't know much about that subject, but there seems an awful lot of competition for it. When I do a search for that I get this:
      http://www.google.com/search?hl=en& … 0&sa=N
      
      And I do not see your hub.
      
      From my own experience, hubs get a quick boost early on after publication because of hubpages authority, and then it is the law of the jungle after that. i.e. the page with the most high-quality incoming links and traffic wins.
      
      I would say you need more incoming links. You only have 60 inbound links - all of which are from hubpages:
      
      https://siteexplorer.search.yahoo.com/a … amp;bwms=p
      
      Whereas, the first result on google has 6,600 inlinks:
      
      https://siteexplorer.search.yahoo.com/a … xplore+URL

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         hassamposted 16 years agoin reply to this

         That is the general problem I am facing, some of the hubs just remain on the main page for only a few weeks and then disappear. Misha is right its not just about writing good content you need to do some extra promotion.
         
         Now how do I get some in links, which you mentioned for my hubs????? Do I need to do some bookmarking????

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   Maddie Ruudposted 16 years ago

   It's okay, Hassam.  If you poke around, you'll see I regularly get called "Maggie" and even "Maude."

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   Mishaposted 16 years ago

   Wow Mark! It's an impressive shift from "just write more and better content" stance you used to promote.
   
   Dare I think we might see a similar evolution in the other question you seem to be rather stiff about?

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      Mark Knowlesposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      lol
      
      No. I will stick by paying good writers good money for what they write
      
      But - I am also a realist. If you have 2 well written pages on a similar topic, the one with the most attention gets the better rankings.
      
      As I mentioned to you earlier, I got my first incoming link from wikipedia recently - organically. I wrote good content and it was linked to because it is different to all the other rubbish out there.
      
      But in this case, hassam is writing basically the same thing about 50,000 other people are writing.
      
      So he needs some incoming links.
      
      Organically by writing good content or otherwise.

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   Mishaposted 16 years ago

   LOL Sure, I was mostly teasing you
   
   Nobody in his right mind would deny importance of the quality content - and its pleasing to see that you came to recognize that backlinks have their role, too

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      Mark Knowlesposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      Yes they do But - if you write good content in the first place, you can get them for free
      
      As I do most of the time. But - much as I hate to say it, buying them or generating them helps too
      
      Now how about paying more than $1 for 300 words?

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   Mishaposted 16 years ago

   LOL I never offered such a price, I don't know where Jenny and you found that number. If you are not too lazy, find my original thread on this - I was offering 1 cent a word, which translates into $3 for 300 words

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   Mark Knowlesposted 16 years ago

   Misha is the expert on that
   
   To a major extent, I write what I think is good content and the links come naturally, but I am coming around to the idea of helping that process along to speed things up a little.
   
   I have about 20 blogs that I use - wordpress.com, wordpress.org, blogger, yahoo 360, stumbleupon etc. Some of these blogs now have their own page rank, but they need maintenance and original content of their own to be of any value. I also exchange links with people.
   
   The other thing to consider is that this hub has been penalized by the search engines. I cannot find it other than the vicarious digg reference. I have a few like that and nothing I have done has helped them.
   
   Hubpages says they have no idea why this would happen, and I do not know how to fix this if this is the problem. I have moved on and written those hubs off.

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      hassamposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      Ok, Mark Thanks a lot for your interest. I am still experimenting a lot of things on the internet and may be some day things would start to work for me, till then it's all upto hubpages.

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   SunSevenposted 16 years ago

   Good original content + the right amount of promotion in the right places
   
   There are times when content is not king
   and there are times when no amount of promotion can brighten things up.
   
   

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    knslmsposted 16 years ago

    I'm far from an expert on this subject, but did you try changing the content up a little? Maybe adding some or just changing it a little? I have always heard that google ranks on how often a page is updated.

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       hassamposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       Thanks for the tip, currently thats what I am trying by not publishing any more hubs instead updating my current hubs. May be that would improve things a bit.

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          shinujohn2008posted 16 years agoin reply to this

          That will be a great mistake and foolish thing you can do, if you don't publish anything for long.
          
          Many people here publish hubs and after 1 month they will say that their traffic to those hubs have decreased. Do you expect people to read the same thing every month. Give them newer things,make hubs on popular topics getting examples from google trends and yahoo buzz.
          
          After u make a hub and bookmark them in other websites,leave them to their own. Do not expect them to make huge traffic for Life Time. just concentrate on newer hubs so that your scores won't get affected.

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             Paragliderposted 16 years agoin reply to this

             I agree with Shinujohn that it's better to keep producing new ones, but something that is worth doing is optimising the title and summary text of your older ones. A newspaper style headline title will grab you readers among hubbers when first published, but you should be thinking about a searchable title that non-hubbers will find, through Google etc. Then, whether or not they open the page will often depend on the summary text.  I've revitalised a few moribund hubs that way.

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                Ryan Hupferposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                Great advice, Paraglider - the title is very, very important and should be as search friendly as possible. I usually think about what I would actually type into Google if you wanted to find the content that you wrote about in your Hub.

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    TravelAMPposted 16 years ago

    This is really informative. Thanks for the question, I learned a lot from this.

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       shinujohn2008posted 16 years agoin reply to this

       Yes we learn new things every day

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    britneydavidsonposted 16 years ago

    Yes I agree this is the game of the content and promotion. Good Content makes promotion a lot easier.

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    GoldenThreadposted 16 years ago

    It all depending on "timeliness".. social bookmarking/tag pages are almost instantly indexed, but fade quickly. Blog posts, videos and hub-pages are quickly indexed, but last only slightly longer.
    
    So what extends your time at the top of the search engines? Quality, original content with lots of on-topic links from reputable websites.

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    CarpetDiemposted 16 years ago

    There is some valuable information in this thread, for those that read it...
    Mark, I'm kind of surprised that you disclosed on of your promotion secrets. But then again, it sounds like it involves a lot of hard work and patience, so you probably don't have to worry about a competitor copying you. Have you been able to see if your strategy works, and any idea how long it takes to have a measurable effect? Steve

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    CarpetDiemposted 16 years ago

    Hi Hassam,
    First, just let me say, 255 hubs is a lot of hubs! Wow. I only have 254 to write and I'll catch up with you. I did a search for 'windows xp password retrieval' on google and the competition is tough! My guess is that you're competing with websites and articles that have been around almost as long as XP, which is several years, and probably have lots of links. Your hub looks to be about 3 months old? I'm guessing that you benefited initially from a "freshness/newness" bounce, but now the old established sites are beating you. If your only links are from hubpages, I would think you would need to build links from other (Windows XP) authority sites, which will probably be a lot of work. Steve

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    CarpetDiemposted 16 years ago

    Hi Hassam,
    Just one more thing. I did a search here on hubpages for 'windows xp password retrieval' and there are three results, but not your hub? Don't know what to make of that...

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