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RSS Feeds and Tags can get your Hub unpublished without warning!

  1. Marisa Wright profile image93
    Marisa Wrightposted 6 years ago

    There has been a discussion thread about this, but I just wanted to alert other Hubbers to it.

    You will receive a warning email about some rule violations - but for some, your Hub will show a warning on the Hub itself, but you'll get no email. So you need to fix these issues up now, don't wait till it's too late!

    Here are the two I've come across:

    Tags - if you've used "personal" tags such as codes or nonsense words, you must delete them.  I know several people who use such tags to create RSS feeds, and in fact many experienced Hubbers (including me) have recommended their use in the past. They're allowed for official projects like HubMob - but individuals are NO LONGER allowed to use them and your Hubs will be unpublished. 

    If you're one of those people who accepts all the "suggested tags", please go and cull your tag list right now. The Suggested Tags tool is automated, and just picks up frequently used words - so it always includes a bunch of words that are far too general to have any value.  Those will be classed as unrelated or deceptive and can also cause unpublishing.

    RSS Feeds - RSS feeds to unrelated Hubs or websites are not allowed.  That means, no "latest Hubs" feeds.  Yes, I know your latest Hubs are related by the fact that you're the author - but that's not what "related" means on HP.  They must be on the same subject.

    I'd also advise you to make them closely related.  I had RSS feeds to my bellydance DVD site which triggered the warning on a Tribal bellydance Hub.  I changed the feed to my Tribal site's feed and that was fine.

    1. lisabeaman profile image84
      lisabeamanposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Hi Marisa - I've been out of the loop for a while... what about the tags and rss feeds that we did for the 60 Day Challenge? Do I need to go and delete them? I haven't gotten any warnings (except that some of my links are broken on my original 60dc hub).

      Thanks!
      Lisa

      1. prettydarkhorse profile image64
        prettydarkhorseposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Hi Lisa, read this from Jason Menayan (HP staff) below Marisa Wright response on p.2 of that thread.

        http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/74304?p … ost1616102

        1. SunSeven profile image62
          SunSevenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          It means you can put a 60dc tag /or hubmo b/ or hubtrail on all of your hubs. Is that right?

          If .......

          1. IzzyM profile image87
            IzzyMposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I've got some personal tags on hubs, yet there is no warnings on the hub themselves. Does that mean they are OK?

            1. Mutiny92 profile image82
              Mutiny92posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              I don't think so.

            2. Susana S profile image92
              Susana Sposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              I have the exact same question, so hopefully we will get a response soon.

            3. Michael Willis profile image77
              Michael Willisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              IzzyM...can you give n example of your personal tag here?  Hp is tightening their existing rules they say, so it is best to make sure your tag is allowed. Just because it was "allowed" in the past, does not mean it is allowed now.

              I make my own tags instead of using the suggested tags, since they can be irrelevant to the content of the hubs at times.

              1. IzzyM profile image87
                IzzyMposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                well, I've got my shark hub linked together with the tag 'izshark'. Obviously there is no such word, but all the hubs in the feed relate to sharks.

                I haven't checked all the hubs in this feed. Just one actually and it doesn't have a warning.

                1. Michael Willis profile image77
                  Michael Willisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  OK, that is the type of Tag that Jason was saying not to use according to the HP rules in the post Marisa mentioned.

                  What I do to link hubs together and you might think about is; create a "group" and name it Sharks. Make sure it fits within the category topic as well as the content a match.

                  Example of one I use for RSS feed is : NFL Football or NFL Playoffs 2011. Jason said these looked fine since they were closely related to the particular hubs.

                  1. IzzyM profile image87
                    IzzyMposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    These feeds are for offsite promotion. The promotion has been done. I am going to lose a loss of backlinks gained over time if I take the feeds out.

                    It will also mean manually editing nearly 500 hubs - again. I am getting pissed off too now.

                    These tags were carefully chosen. They have the main keyword in them plus two poxy little extra letters. If google reads tags, it will see the keyword only.

                    Someone needs to explain to me WHY they need to go, otherwise I am not moving them and may in fact just move my hubs instead.

                2. Marisa Wright profile image93
                  Marisa Wrightposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  "izshark" would be "illegal".  It's a perfect example of what I'm trying to say.  The FAQ clearly says "nonsense words" are not allowed, and it's a nonsense word.

                  I suggested they say "only words in the dictionary are allowed", to make it clearer.

                  1. IzzyM profile image87
                    IzzyMposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Was that in the FAQ when I put them there? If not, they have moved the goalposts. I will keep an eye out for warnings getting put on the hubs. I have not added anymore 'nonsense' tags since the new rulings came in ( and yes I have published several new hubs), but that's a bit unfair to make it backwards compatible.

            4. Marisa Wright profile image93
              Marisa Wrightposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              No, it just means they haven't got to them yet.

          2. prettydarkhorse profile image64
            prettydarkhorseposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I am not sure for hubtrail,  hubmob and 60dc, 30dc seem ok

            What if Sunseven??

  2. paradigmsearch profile image86
    paradigmsearchposted 6 years ago

    Good post. Thank you. smile

  3. WryLilt profile image87
    WryLiltposted 6 years ago

    I'm fine with the RSS feeds - because I used personal subject related tags. Oh wait .....

    1. Marisa Wright profile image93
      Marisa Wrightposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      What, Wry?

      Just in case you're being serious:

      If you use your author name and a subject-related tag to create your RSS feed, you've got no problem.

      However, if you created a personal subject-related tag (like, "WryLiltbaby" for baby Hubs), that is what's not allowed.

      1. SunSeven profile image62
        SunSevenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Is it official yet? I couldn't find any reference to this on the whole site.

        1. Marisa Wright profile image93
          Marisa Wrightposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          SunSeven, yes it is official.

          I asked the question about both these issues in another thread.  Jason told me these rules have always existed, they're just applying them more strictly now.

          I suggested that the HubPages team should make an official announcement to let people know.  He doesn't think it's necessary - apparently we "should" have known.

          I think he's wrong, because many of us have been doing these things for years and never, ever been reprimanded for it.  Therefore I think it would be courteous of HubPages to announce the change formally.

          That's why I started this thread, because I don't think people do know.  And what's worse is that your Hubs can get unpublished for this, you won't just get a warning email.

          1. SunSeven profile image62
            SunSevenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I am not very intuitive, I am afraid. If it is not black and white, then it should be in grey or color.

            May be I am color blind, or may be I am just blind.

            I searched for the official link to the page which says what is allowed and what is not. I could not find it. Marisa, are you trying to fool new hubbers? Or am I hallucinating?

            May be I am blind, after all. smile

            Warm Regards

            1. Marisa Wright profile image93
              Marisa Wrightposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              It has not been announced,but following my questions, they have updated the FAQ:

              http://hubpages.com/faq/#deceptive

              http://hubpages.com/faq/#unrelated

              1. SunSeven profile image62
                SunSevenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Thats very LOL or whatever expression is current, very convenient.

                Congratulations on your new role, HP is a million dollar business, and being a spokesperson for them is a coveted job. I envy you. smile

                PS: Please dont reply to my post above till you read my PM.

                WR

                1. Marisa Wright profile image93
                  Marisa Wrightposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  LOL, got your PM.  I'm not aiming to become a spokesperson, but I know a few people have been caught out by this "tightening" of the rules and I feel someone should try to avoid inconvenience to other Hubbers, even if the HP team don't seem to care.

        2. Robin profile image
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          Robinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          We refer to both of these topic, RSS Feeds and Tags, in our static Forum post regarding all HubPages updates:  http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/74274

          This is always a great place to look first for any HubPages related changes.  If there is something that we haven't addressed in this post, feel free to start a Forum thread and we can update it.

          Have a great day,
          Robin  big_smile

          1. WoodsmensPost profile image54
            WoodsmensPostposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Thanks for pointing this thread out to me Robin. I hate when hubbers start to cry wolf with information, sending everyone into panic mod. mYself I don't scare easily to start radically changing hubs because one or more hubbers claim of mistreatment. I have received warnings made the mods and everything is fine. Thanks again and others should do their own due diligence on this subject matter before a wave of panic starts again within their own hubs. smile WP

            1. IzzyM profile image87
              IzzyMposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Well, its still clear as mud to me.

              "However if the tag is very obscure, and if our moderators don't recognize it, it might be moderated for being unrelated. "

              Hmmm...

              izshark isn't a dictionary word, but the word 'shark' is still there and very much relates to the hub(s) in question, so it looks like it depends on the moderator if they think it is obscure or not.

  4. Hendrika profile image72
    Hendrikaposted 6 years ago

    I can agree with the tags one. I have had quite a few of my Hubs that I had to weed out tags.

    1. SunSeven profile image62
      SunSevenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      You are insulting the great programmers who has invented the suggest tags feature here at HP. smile

  5. Will Apse profile image87
    Will Apseposted 6 years ago

    I never saw any use for RSS feeds. Links, I just do manually.

    I realize this is an insane investment of time and energy (it takes minutes) but I am just plain old fashioned.

  6. IzzyM profile image87
    IzzyMposted 6 years ago

    Furthermore, just checked out that feed http://hubpages.com/tag/izshark/hot and some of those in that feed also have the tag 'izsea' relating to oceanic things, which leads to yet another feed http://hubpages.com/tag/izsea/hot again none of them have a warning that I can see.

    Edit: I am going to be annoyed if I have to remove all of them, because obviously those feeds were created for promotion outwith Hubpages. Just about all of my hubs are interlinked in some manner.

  7. Richieb799 profile image59
    Richieb799posted 6 years ago

    I used the RSS feed to allow search engines to see that my pages aren't static but since we are not allowed this I will be updated all my RSS feeds to news feeds now..are news capsules still ok?

    1. Mutiny92 profile image82
      Mutiny92posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      news capsules are going away I believe.

      1. Richieb799 profile image59
        Richieb799posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        LOL, just noticed they aren't in the options anymore :S

        What are using to keep your hubs regenerating Mutiny? I can see that it would be hard work to find related links for each of my 262 hubs

        1. WoodsmensPost profile image54
          WoodsmensPostposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          You can still use RSS Richie have a look at the thread Robin put in her post it clears up everything that was attempted in this thread with speculations

          1. Richieb799 profile image59
            Richieb799posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            But you can't use a latest hubs RSS? I haven't got another RSS feed hmm
            Just read the thread pointed out in Robins comment but it doesnt mention RSS there

            1. WoodsmensPost profile image54
              WoodsmensPostposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/74274

              3/4 of the way down the page, you can use a tag rss if you dont know what that is check the learning center. It can be used for all your related hubs with the same tag? Sorry gotta run for now smile

            2. Cagsil profile image62
              Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Richie,

              RSS Feeds are labeled based on "latest", "hot" and "best". Those are all you can choose from.

              How "hot" and "best" are best used is by using "keywords/tag" links to related material, either by you or others, which are in the RSS feed itself.

              ht tp://hubpages.com/tag/(keywords or tags)/hot?rss

              You would setup related "keywords/tags" that help your content. When using "tag" type feeds and keywords that have more than one word, then use a "+" in between the keywords/tags(withoutspacing).

              ht tp://hubpages.com/tag/character+trait/hot?rss

              The above is a sample of one tagged RSS Feed I use. smile

              1. WoodsmensPost profile image54
                WoodsmensPostposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Better stated here in the learning center 

                How to Create a Hubber-Specific RSS Feed

                http://hubpages.com/learningcenter/hubb … c-rss-feed

          2. Mutiny92 profile image82
            Mutiny92posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I am the wrong person to ask.  My views and earnings continue to deteriorate.

    2. Richieb799 profile image59
      Richieb799posted 6 years ago

      Thanks guys, Ive begun removing all of my existing feeds because that way it puts the bottom ad in a more prominent position anyhow..I probably won't bother with a fee because I notice there is now a Facebook social plugin and that probably keeps the page updating for search engines anyway

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