How much has your income gone down since Google latest algo change?

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   devsirposted 13 years ago

   Since Google changed its algorithm, all the hubbers have been affected by this phenomena. So how much percentage, your income has gone down due to this. Mine is 50%. I am just getting 50% of my adsense income now. So what is yours ?? One more interesting thing , if you have got this change as beneficial to your adsense income, do let us know. So tell whether you are getting Plus Z% or Minus Z% since this Google Algo Change.

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      khmohsinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      it always effect spammers and sites with low quality contents

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         earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         And top writers who have been here for years and write nothing but quality content.

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            khmohsinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            i dont think there earning can reduce, as hubpage is great platform and judge itself every hub,

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               WryLiltposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Incorrect. The Panda hit everyone, quality writer or not.

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               Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Check the statistics on Quantcast.  The traffic to HubPages as a whole has dropped dramatically, and that has affected everyone.
               
               My traffic is down about 50% and so are my earnings.

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               CMHypnoposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               But Google doesn't just judge each hub, and the whole of HP has been slapped because of poor content and spam. Good writers have lost just as much of their earnings as the bad writers and spammers!

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               earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Wrong.
               
               Hubpages has dropped in Alexa ranking from 74 a few months ago down to 260th today.
               Dealing in facts is a lot better than conjecture.

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      Suramya.Kposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Actually, my pageviews has increased by the update and so is the revenue. I had published only four hubs before Feb 24 and they used to bring me around 10 visits per day (I know Its pathetic!!)
      But after the update, my hub about onions got 10 visits per day (its now reduced to 6). While AdSense revenue is not that good, the earnings from HP ads are reasonable.

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         Suramya.Kposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         If there had not been HP ads, then I guess I would have been hiding somewhere now.

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   earnestshubposted 13 years ago

   My figures are well down as are most of us. How far is difficult to judge as yet. It is still irregular. I am working on it.

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   devsirposted 13 years ago

   There is Variation in adsense earnings but I want to know the downfall or upscaling of average adsense income

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      khmohsinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      it also depend on visitors from which countries you are getting, downfall and upscalling is part of daily work, if we publish few hubs and stop its expected that we are not proper work always treat it regular work
      
      if you write new hubs dont forget old hubs, also give some backlinks to old hubs and use other ways to increase traffic to your hub, proper planning is key to get success with hubs

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   WryLiltposted 13 years ago

   I was earning about $6-$8 (with bumper days of up to $14) before Panda.
   
   After Panda I've been lucky to see $1 per day. That's been partially replaced by the HP advert program which gives me $3-$4 a day but I'm still not at the point I was before Panda.

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      earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Nobody is back to pre panda that I know of.

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         Wesman Todd Shawposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Over at the Info Barrel forum - those folks are saying that they are getting back to pre panda traffic levels.  Their site is great. . . .but not quite as fun to use as this one, but there damn sure isn't any spam there to speak of.

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            David 470posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I wrote a few articles for infobarrel, but my articles did not do that well compared to here on HubPages.
            
            Infobarrel, though, needs to check your articles before being published -- which is good so there are not spammers, self promoters etc...

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               Wesman Todd Shawposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               I did a couple of really top notch articles on IB to compare it to here - and they just DON'T get the traffic that HP does.  The only answer is that Google doesn't like them so well as they do HP.  I don't know why - because clearly, there is no spun spam crap on that site, not like here.

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                  WryLiltposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Even after the panda?

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                     Wesman Todd Shawposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     I'd be surprised if my two best articles there get three views a week.  It's true that I've not backlinked them so much as I do HP articles - but they just don't get any Google Love.  Info Barrel Admin reports that Panda is done with them, and that their good authors are getting pre Panda traffic.

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            earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks for passing that on, I will take a look.

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   Richieb799posted 13 years ago

   My traffic began to rise again  the last 3 weeks and has been higher than ever and my earning seem to be back on track in accordance..it is mainly one of my hubs that brings in the earnings. I was getting good passive money before the algo and then it dropped where I just meet payout but now I envision big things if I can keep my personal website high in Googles fist page.
   However I am on vacation for another week and have limited internet access to work

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   Lily Roseposted 13 years ago

   My traffic and earnings are currently about a third of what they were pre-Panda. The HP ad program has definitely helped me keep it at a level that is at least making it worthwhile to stick it out. I haven't been very active at all since Panda so I probably only have myself to blame for no improvement since then.

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   EmpressFelicityposted 13 years ago

   My earnings have dropped by about half, but I expect the downward trend to continue because my traffic has recently taken another nosedive
   
   I am now looking at my hubs as an online portfolio to enable me to get other writing jobs, rather than a source of earnings in and of themselves.  I consider the occasional Google/ad programme/Amazon payment to be a sort of bonus more than anything else.

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   Marye Audetposted 13 years ago

   continuing to decrease.... I am down over 75% at this point.. in another month or so I will be paying google, at this rate.

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   Mutiny92posted 13 years ago

   I don't believe Panda is "over"...My views dropped substantially, stabilized, and are continuing a slow, painful decline.
   
   I had thought Panda simply reset the level and we could move on from a new baseline, but that does not appear the be the case (at least for me).
   
   My earnings are down well over 50%, even with the new HP Ad program.

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    Randy Godwinposted 13 years ago

    My Adsense has increased every month since the slap and my Amazon sales are okay too.  This month's Adsense earnings  will be approximately 20% more than last.  I haven't enabled the HP ads yet and might not.
    
    Strange!

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       earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I stand corrected Randy. I do know someone doing OK post Panda!
       That is promising to know.

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          Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I think it really depends on the subject one is writing about, Earnest.  I'm lucky to have knowledge about things which other writers cannot have unless they've experienced them first hand.
          
          I do believe using original photos may be a small part of being more successful in having one's hubs ranked higher.  But I'm no expert in the way things are done by Google or HP, so don't take anything I say very seriously.
          
          No else does anyway! 

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             earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             My car stuff has survived intact, the rest will need some more work. I am lazy at this time.
             
             I am about to throw the auto trans back in my ute after it decided to die due to water from a recent flood got in the breather. I have put it off for a week so far! The weather is good today so I am out of excuses. The valve body looks like something out of the space shuttle, so I reached for the workshop manual on this one.

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                Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                I thought your how-to stuff would be okay!  I try to take photos of everything I repair depending on what info is available on a Google search.  If I think I can write and illustrate a better article than the top results then I go for it.
                
                I do realize most writers do not have this advantage, though.  Good luck on your repairs, sounds intriguing!

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                   earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   I need to take more photos. The hubs are doing OK, but more of my own shots would probably help.
                   The repair is the first one I have done on a trans that I am not 100% sure will work. I replaced the torque converter ( can never get the bloody water out of em.)
                   Water could have damaged one of the clutches, and I cant see it doesn't mean it is OK.
                   The valve body could still have a minute particle float into it when I fill and flush it... all sorts of ifs.
                   
                   I had to make a pressure tester, but still won't know the outcome until final load testing with the computer in the circuit.
                   
                   What a nightmare!
                   My fault I fear, I could not feel good about giving twice what the ute is worth for a new one, and re conditioners are thin on the ground now, due to the complexity of 4 and 5 speed autos.
                   
                   Have you seen the 6 speed auto out of the BMW? I reckon it's got as many parts in it as most whole manual cars have.
                   Almost unrepairable.

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                      Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                      I try not to do much work on autos these days.  Other than changing water pumps, brakes, etc., the uncomplicated repairs, in other words.
                      
                      I did start up my old 1948 A-Farmall tractor the other day.  No battery in it as it uses a magneto to furnish the spark.  I enjoy working on old motors still.  My neighbor collects old kerosene engines used at the turn of the century for running sawmills and other machinery.
                      
                      He has one which only fires every few seconds and has to have the head heated with a torch in order to get it started. I simply do not get as enthused about today's engines with the computer running almost everything.
                      
                      Sounds like you know what you are doing though!

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    Jane@CMposted 13 years ago

    Its so bad I quit writing here for awhile.  I've got some articles ready to post.  I'm still hanging in here, I hope things turn around soon!

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    Greek Oneposted 13 years ago

    My income has gone down more than Paris Hilton on prom night

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       Mutiny92posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       LOL

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       BRIAN SLATERposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       

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    kerrygposted 13 years ago

    If I combine Adsense and the Hubpages Ad Program, my ad revenue hasn't gone down much (though I was never a superstar earner by any means). However, my Amazon and ebay earnings are cut by 50% or more, which definitely hurts.

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    psycheskinnerposted 13 years ago

    Due to HubAds mine is up about 50%.  It certainly compared favorably to InfoBarrel even at its worst.

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    girly_girl09posted 13 years ago

    I'm down anywhere from $200-$350 a month. That's significant for me as I'm a full-time student....it really hurts and I'm back to getting money from my parents to cover expenses. Ugh!
    
    Although, I'm thankful my car payment and a few credit cards are still covered by my online earnings.
    
    My own personal website has improved with earnings (but that only makes $50 a month lol...used to make $35ish) But it's more of a hobby and that definitely pays for the hosting.

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       smantyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       That is awesome! Not that your earnings are down, but how much you are making. I am a full time student also and I am trying to get to the point that you are at. Right now I am not making nearly enough online to cover any expenses, but that will change.

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    IzzyMposted 13 years ago

    Compared to April my earnings are UP 20% but over the month my views are DOWN 20%. Odd mix. April was my worst post-Panda month so far but with viewers dropping further, things are not looking well at all.

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    nabeelplusposted 13 years ago

    same here, my income has also gone down with the ranks

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    Greek Oneposted 13 years ago

    Here is a visual interpretation of what Panda has done to my online revenue-making aspirations...
    
    

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    David 470posted 13 years ago

    My income is down about 50%. My goal was to make $300-600 dollars a month with HubPages (eventually 1000+ far future).
    
    Panda destroyed that goal...  50% for me is about right...On top of that, if HubPages had the same ranking, I would of continued to publish hubs and I perhaps would of started to make a few hundred a month.
    
    I still make some income here, but am trying to make more.
    
    Does anyone know how HubPages can gain its former rank again??? Originally, I think I took that rank for granted...Now, I realize more than ever, how much potential HP had. (it still has potential though, but not to the same degree).

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    Greek Oneposted 13 years ago

    If sites like Hubpages will continue to be impacted by Panda in the long term, is the only real solution to create independent websites?

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    Mishaposted 13 years ago

    It didn't

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