Why Do The Adsense Stats Look So Different From Hubpages

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   andyozposted 13 years ago

   This has been something i have wondered about before and it has always puzzzle me.  However, yesterday there was an even bigger gap in my stats, my Hubpages stats showed just over 5000 views.  However, my Adsense views show just under 1000.  Why is there such a massive difference?  Anyone have any idea?

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      Jason Menayanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Could you share exactly where you're seeing these statistics?

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         andyozposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Hi Jason, I see the 5000 views in my Hubpages stats, the total views in the past 24 hours are just over 5000.  Then I log in to my adsense account, the stats for the previous day tell me I have had just below 1000 impressions.

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   Urt og Dyrposted 13 years ago

   Consider the following factors:
   
   1. google stats are on a calendar day, while HP stats are on a rolling 24 hour basis
   2. adsense only shows 60% of impressions (HP's 40% is not included)
   3. your Hub visitors might be running ad-blocking software

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      David 470posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      But wait, my HubPages stats say about 5000 views, but in my account settings ut's almost 10,000. Is that because the HubPages stats at the top do not count adsense impressions and only HP ad program ones?

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         Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Time share and traffic share are two different things.  If HP places their code on your pages during the peak internet viewing hours, and allow yours during the less active hours, this will certainly make a difference in the traffic to your hubs. 
         
         We don't necessarily receive a 60/40 split of traffic or revenue, just time.  If I am mistaken it is because I can only check my own hubs to see when my codes are in effect. 

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            paradigmsearchposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Not true Randy. Let me see if I can find the relevant post...

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               paradigmsearchposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Here it is:
               
               http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/6003#post63320
               
               Edit: the subsequent “while back” link really spells it out.

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                  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  So it is only coincidence my highest trafficked hubs have HP's code on them for longer times during the peak internet viewing hours?  Okay. 
                  
                  I suppose HP has no programs indicating which hours of the day are the best for making sales or garnering ad clicks for our hubs, either?  Or do you have this information also? 

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            Jason Menayanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            That's not true.
            
            We do a 60/40 split all the time, irrespective of time of day.
            
            If you have data suggesting otherwise, I'd love for you to share that publicly, here, so we can all have a look.

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               Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               You can easily dispel my assertion by emailing me how much HP made on my hubs in the last 3 months, Jason.  This includes both Amazon and Adsense earnings.  When I get your confirmation I am wrong by comparing HP's earnings against mine, I will be more than glad to retract my statement and apologize to you personally.
               
               I'll be eagerly awaiting your email.

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                  Jason Menayanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  I don't have that data. I know how the system works and I know that we've made approximately 50% of your earnings, because we split impressions with you. We might have made 51% as much, or 49% as much, since either is as statistically likely.
                  
                  Why don't you read Paul's 2 posts in full that paradigmsearch (thank you!) provided.

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                     Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     I did read the post, Jason.  But if it is as you assume it to be, shouldn't HP be earning more than 50% more than I get?  I do know there are times when HP codes are on my hubs for long lengths of time interspersed with shorter times for me.  I've checked this more than once. 
                     
                     Why not simply give the first 24 minutes of each hour to HP and the last 36 to the writer, or vice verso?  Then we really could know how the system works without having to check every few minutes in hopes of getting some idea of the time share.
                     
                     I didn't think you had the data and didn't really expect to get a chance to see it.  My offer still stands, though.  Merely because you know how the system works doesn't mean it's being used without manipulation of any kind.  Or does it?

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                        Jason Menayanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        No, it doesn't. As I said before, we run the 60/40 split all the time.
                        
                        And, as Paul said, if you think we're screwing you over, why not check out the many other sites out there where you can write online?

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                           Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           Very reassuring.  I have checked out and wrote on other sites, Jason. I just see no reason for such secrecy between "partners" in a business situation if everything is above board.  You can look at my earnings on my work but I cannot see if HP is truly being honest with me on theirs. 
                           
                           If you cannot see the difference then we are both wasting our time here.  So why do you think HP wouldn't like for me to know what they earn on my hubs?  Just your opinion will suffice in this instance.

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                        jcmayer777posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Maybe I'm not understanding what you're saying....
                        
                        A 60/40 split simply means that over the course of time, your ads will display 60% of the time your articles are viewed.  It's random, not always 6 times of 10.  It would be possible to see hubpages ads 50 times in a row and still meet the 60/40 split.

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   David 470posted 13 years ago

   I am confused I just do not understand why my account settings say close to 10,000 views in 24 hours, but my hub stats at the top of my profile page say 5000 or so..

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      Jason Menayanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Could you share where exactly you're seeing the 5000 impressions (i.e. "the top of your profile page")?

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         David 470posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         On my "traffic history to my hubs" it says 4500 views on graph (I was incorrect, almost 5000 though), but this is not the same number that is located "in my account" where the 24 hour statistics are, which say over 10,000 impressions.

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            Jason Menayanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Ah, got it. Thanks for the explanation. I believe there is a bit of a delay in that graph. It's a bit hard to see in my own case, because my account (livelonger) has been here for 4 years so it's a bit of compressed graph with 9 months between each tick at the bottom.

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   andyozposted 13 years ago

   Still not got any kind of answer on my original question.  In the past 24 hours the 'my account' page here on Hubpages shows my total page views at nearly 5500.  Great stuff I think.  But then on my Adsense account my impressions for yesterday was below 900.  Why are the numbers so far apart?

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      andyozposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I may have solved the problem.  My latest hub is attracting 3500 views per day.  This is a iphone game review with solutions on it, when I view it on my actual iphone, there are no adds displayed.  So I assume that when people view the page, adsense will not generate any impressions. 
      
      That seems a shame then as my 3500 views per day, which is pretty amazing considering I only published this article a few days back, but the views are worthless!  Shame

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         Jason Menayanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Got it. Sorry about the late reply; I was pretty much offline yesterday.
         
         Ads should be showing on iPhone impressions, but to a much lower degree. They're not worthless, but probably lower in value than the full-screen version.
         
         We are working on this, since mobile traffic comprises an increasing share of traffic to Hubs.

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            andyozposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks for the reply Jason, good to know your trying to solve the iPhone adds issue.

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