Hubpages 20K Per Day Challenge

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   Jonas Renfoldposted 9 years ago

   I would like to get some advice about how and where to post a personal challenge that I am planning. This challenge is only really intended for me, although I suppose others could do it as well, but my primary motivation is to declare my goal and sort of blog about my progress each week, so that A) I will be accountable to someone and B) others can imitate my efforts if they choose.
   
   The challenge I have set for myself is to get 20,000 Hubpage Views Per Day. I would like to accomplish this in one year or less, but two years would be okay as well. I have a long way to go as right now I only get 50 to 100 page views per day.
   
   What I want to know is, what is the best way to let people know and get the word out there, and make myself accountable. I have thought about creating a new account, and posting updates each week on that account. I would prefer that, because I would like to keep some of the accounts with hubs on them sort of private. However, as far as I know, Hubpages isn't really intended to be a blogging platform, so would publishing weekly updates on my efforts on a separate account be against the rules? If so, what other options are there, besides creating an outside blog.
   
   If anyone has any advice, especially someone from Hubpages staff, I would appreciate it.

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      pmilesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      That's lofty to be honest. I think you'd probably need close to 1000 hubs on here.

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         Jonas Renfoldposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         lol...I wish I could do it with 1000 Hubs...but unless I learn how to get more page views per hub than I am getting right now, it will take around 5000 Hubs.

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            CWanamakerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            If you can't type very fast, you should think about investing in some good dictation software.
            
            I believe you can do it!  You sound very motivated. Trust me, there will be times you will get discouraged....but just keep on hubbing.

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            IzzyMposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Here's my take on it.
            It is possible, and you don't need thousands of hubs. You need one hub with thousands of views.
            So either, you write one hub, an excellent hub, by the way, with new and previously unpublished information, even if that is only your personal opinion but written in such a way that loads of people like it AND you then backlink it thousands of times so that it reaches the top of Google.
            Of course, your hub will need to be around a searched-for topic.
            
            If you write around a niche topic that is not highly searched, then again you will need those backlinks to get you to the top, unless you have actually written a good piece which people naturally want to link to.
            
            A lot of the earlier HP members have enjoyed tremendous success, mainly because they got in early with their keywords. (and wrote good articles around them). The odd latecomer, has been lucky or found an untapped niche, which can still happen.
            
            Good luck with it, my own aim was half of that and it is still as far away as when I first started thanks to having been Google-slapped.
            
            I would also not bother with a challenge for this, because everyone these days seems to want to steal your ideas and your successes, so its better to keep them to yourself.

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               David 470posted 9 years agoin reply to this

               I agree with IzzyM,
               
               YOU DON'T NEED 1000'S OF HUBS:
               
               It's much better to write for hubs that have the potential to gather 100 or 1000 views/daily, then to write 100 hubs that only get 10 views a day.
               
               While there is nothing wrong with a large quantity of hubs that get 10 views per day, it will take much longer.

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               Jonas Renfoldposted 9 years agoin reply to this

               lol....I know this guys....I know HOW to achieve the goal....I just want advice on how best to blog about it on Hubpages. I only said I needed 5000 Hubs because most of my hubs only get around 5 views per day right now....I am planning on creating a smaller number that get several hundred views per day. I just wanted advice on how best to post my progress on Hubpages.

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                  IzzyMposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  Oh sorry. I was just trying to be helpful.
                  
                  It is highly unlikely you will get a group together for this, as 20,000 views per day is way outside most people's expectations, but there is strength in a group when it comes to cross-promotion.
                  
                  But hey you are the expert, you hubbed about it, you must know what to do.
                  
                  You could always start a hub entitled "How I reached 20,000 views a day on HP" and add to it as you get nearer your goal, explaining what you did.
                  
                  But your ideas will all be stolen, just like what happened to poor RyanKett (as you seem to be doing to him now with planning a similar layout and similar position of keywords).

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                     Jonas Renfoldposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                     I don't consider that stealing....I consider that learning

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      Marisa Wrightposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      You're right, HubPages isn't a very effective way of writing about a project which will be regularly updated over time.  Why not start a blog on Blogger?   It could be used as another promotional tool as well as charting your progress.  You can include a link on your HubPages profile and in your Hubs (where relevant) so you get interlinking. Choose a name for the blog that HubPages-related, obviously.

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   paradigmsearchposted 9 years ago

   My prediction is that it is not going to happen (self experience).

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      Jonas Renfoldposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Well, perhaps it didn't happen for you, but that certainly doesn't mean that it won't happen for me. I'm willing to do whatever it takes to make it happen.

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         paradigmsearchposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         I soul hope it happens for both of us.
         
         What, exactly, are we hoping for?

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      paradigmsearchposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Retracted.

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   waynetposted 9 years ago

   That is quite a goal to aim for, if you want to achieve this I won't say it's impossible, but you've got a lot of work and ground to cover to attain this level of daily hubbbage views. Search Engine Optimisation and useful hubpages that add value are a good start!

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      Jonas Renfoldposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, I know how to achieve the goal....I am looking for advice on how to blog about it on Hubpages.

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         waynetposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Write down everything you find out, like traffic spikes, quicker ways to write or interlink content and try and add value to your hubpage writing as you go along!

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   Richieb799posted 9 years ago

   Its difficult to predict itbecause luck also plays a part

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   paradigmsearchposted 9 years ago

   "What I want to know is, what is the best way to let people know and get the word out there, and make myself accountable."
   
   "None."

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   David 470posted 9 years ago

   You say you want to get 20,000 views daily. Do you mean "everyday" or just at one point?
   
   That is quite a goal to shoot for. I actually hit 10,000 views for a couple of days, but the traffic did not remain there. Ryankett (i believe) hit 30,000 views per day at one point.
   
   There are some successful hubbers that have hit 20,000, but it takes a lot of hard work AND "smarts" to do it.
   
   You need to understand search engine optimization well. There is a fine line between writing articles that get 10 views a day and ones that get 100 views a day.
   
   It is definitely possible to hit that many, but takes a lot of determination to do it.

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      Jonas Renfoldposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Yea, I actually was inspired to do it because I read something saying that Ryankett hit 20,000 per day and he only has around 700 hubs. I am currently analyzing how he set up his hubs, what keywords he used and how many searches they got and how many links his hubs have and from where in order to imitate his efforts. I figure that if I can find A) how many words were in a keyword phrase B) how many searches they get according to the Google Adwords Keyword Tool C) How much competition they get according to google's allintitle, allinurl and exact results functions as well as D) how he incorporated them into his hubs, then I will know how to choose my keywords, and create a starting list of 100 based upon that criteria.
      
      I will then analyze how he set up his hubs, including where he put his keywords and set mine up the same way.
      
      I will then check his hubs backlinks using the Site Explorer from Yahoo and get backlinks for my hubs from the same places if possible, or if not then from websites with the same PR as the ones he got links from.
      
      If I can do all of that, I should be able to hit 20,000 views per day with my own 700-1000 Hubs.

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         David 470posted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Ryankett is also an inspiration for me. I would love to create around 500+ hubs some day. He has been very successful with both Google Adsense and Amazon.
         
         Honestly, if it was not for him (and some others), I would not have had the success I have had.
         
         I have still not reached my ultimate goals, but have reached many smaller ones and I am getting close to 1,000,000 views.
         
         I am no expert at search engine optimization, but know a "little bit."
         
         Reading other hubs about search engine optimization helped me a lot. And general hubs about making money on HubPages.
         
         Good luck to ya!

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   jcmayer777posted 9 years ago

   That's lofty to say the least.
   
   If views are your goal, you can find some good, somewhat untapped niches with great traffic.  The problem with most are they pay very poorly, at least in general.  You might make up the low ecpm with the additional views through ppm adsense ads that are likely to be shown.
   
   Good luck with your goal!

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   QuestionMasterposted 9 years ago

   Jonas, you have been here two years and have 50 hubs. You say those get 50-100 views a day.
   
   I think, based on that, you haven't learned the basics about which you've written a hub series! Keywords, SEO, Backlinks.
   
   If you learn how to do that properly, views is never an issue. Maybe you need to learn more about those areas.
   
   Before Panda, there were several people getting 15,000 views or more a day - and they had hundreds of very highly optimized hubs. Now that there has been a change onto subdomains, it is probably going to be a lot more difficult.

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      David 470posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      The subdomains helped some people though.

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      Jonas Renfoldposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Again, I am NOT asking for advice on how to accomplish this goal. I am asking for advice on how to BLOG about it on Hubpages.

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         Jonas Renfoldposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         As for my Hubs, most of them were created a long time ago. Yes, they get very few views because I didn't know what I was doing when I wrote most of them. There are also some recent ones that are part of a failed experiment. I DO know what I am doing, and if you read my hub series on SEO you will see that. I just haven't implemented it because I was not serious about using Hubpages to make money until just a few days ago when I finally realized the potential.

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         jcmayer777posted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Make a blogger blog or write a hub on your progress mothly or weekly.

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   paradigmsearchposted 9 years ago

   Possible ok...
   
   "Jonas Renfold is a full time writer and journalist and covers various subjects besides assigned work such as finances, insurance, credit repair and personal acheivment."

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