How much content is sufficient before I actually earn anything?

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   Cathy Jones 68posted 12 years ago

   I am new to Hub pages and have just posted my first page. I thought I was going to be able to earn some sort of income from the Google Ads on my page, but I was disapproved for a Google Adsense account, so I guess I will not receive any payment at all. Just how much content is sufficient before I make anything?

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      Xenonlitposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Did Google give a reason for disapproving your account? Can you fix the problem that is cited? Are you writing spam?
      
      Go to Google Adsense forum or contact Google and ask what can be done about getting your account  approved.
      
      Second, you are in the right forum for getting help here but you don't say why you were disapproved.
      
      AdSense does not pay that much anyway, unless you have HUGE numbers of views.

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         Cathy Jones 68posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Adsense said I have insufficient content. I didn't expect a fortune, but I was thinking maybe Hubpages could help me bring in a few pennies. Don't I have to have Adsense approval to earn anything at all?

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            Barbara Kayposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I've heard you need to write several hubs before Google will approve you. Just write more and than apply again.

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               Barbara Kayposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Another way to get a Google account is to setup a website or blog. Write about 10 pages of related content. I've heard they usually approve these. Then just use your  Adsense Id here. I think you just need to write more hubs though and they will approve you.

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      Ania Lposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I had no hubs when I have applied but quickly wrote several (4 or 5) before google had a chance to look at my application. It took them two weeks to approve my case but all is fine so far.
      And you need the Adsense account to earn anything really on HubPages as you need this id to sign for HubPages AD program.
      If you are not able to get your Adsense approved, you will be better off on other articles sites where your personal Adsesnse account is not used.

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      Hestia DeVotoposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      So what you're asking is "what is the least amount of work I can put in to somehow get paid?"
      
      The best I can answer that is to say "some."  If you make some content, chances are that you can earn some money.  Good luck with that, and don't quit your day job just yet.

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   psycheskinnerposted 12 years ago

   if you are using Hubpages alone to get the account the odds are that you will need at least ten hubs aged about 6 months to succeed. It may be easier to get Adsense using a blog rather than from Hubs.

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      Cathy Jones 68posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for this info.I was a little naive about it. I only have one hub that I just started.

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         psycheskinnerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         As a freelancer it would not hurt to have a blog as an online portfolio, and get adsense from there.  Then you can use it on your sites, hub[pages, webanswers, infobarrel and dozens of other places.
         
         If you want a few dollars right now go to textbroker of a site like that.  Content writing is more for the long haul.

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   skearposted 12 years ago

   I think the general recommendation is to create 10 hubs before applying for AdSense.  If you have an existing blog that already has some content you could apply using the URL of that site instead.
   
   You can probably go ahead and apply for Amazon Associates though, I don't think I had much content if any when I applied for their program.  Same might go for eBay to.
   
   It's not a get rich quick system, things here take time.

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      Cathy Jones 68posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Well, I am a little disappointed. I've been freelance writing for the past year, and trying to find ways to boost my income. A friend sent me to Hubpages and I got my hopes up. Too Pollyanna, I guess.
      
      Can't join Amazon Associates in NC, and the eBay program wants a link to the google Adsense account. Not looking to get rich quick, but sure would like to make a dollar or two soon.

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         skearposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Don't lose faith, if you write a hub every day or two you'll have enough content for AdSense soon.  It takes some time for articles to gain rank, as well as your new sub domain to become established.
         
         My first 3 months or so here I was only making pennies but the effort is starting to pay off for me now.

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            Cathy Jones 68posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I appreciate the encouragement, and the pointers for how to make this work. I'll keep writing and look forward to seeing my effort pay off too.

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               lobobrandonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Hi Cathy i just began here as well, i made my first $  yesterday have patience daily my earnings increase but drop at times dont get discouraged

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         sofsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Cathy, no need to worry.. just write a few hubs and then apply..ten should do fine.. to be on the safe side start a blogger blog and you will have your account approved... Google is going all out to make sure that people are here to contribute and not spam.. I am sure you will be earning very soon..but patience is a virtue that you need to practice as an online writer. Best wishes to you and welcome to HP

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            Cathy Jones 68posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks for the insight and the good wishes...I'll work on the patience.

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               RedElfposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Good luck with that, and welcome to HubPages!

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   Stacie Lposted 12 years ago

   You have to prove yourself to adsense with some seasoned hubs first. As others have said, make sure they are high quality,over 400 words and offer some value.
   Good luck and welcome to Hubpages.

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   barryrutherfordposted 12 years ago

   It was a year or so in the early days of Hubpages before I earned a few cents.  I think it was 2 years before  got my first cheque.  I think you shouldn't expect to earn anything until you have a least 10 quality hubs that people really want to read. Once you are established though you will continue to accumulate residual income from your  hubs written years ago(provided they continue to be read). That is the beauty of Hubpages

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   Richieb799posted 12 years ago

   Think of it like this, they are potentially offering you a job. You don't walk into an interview with an empty portfolio.

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   Topnewhottoysposted 12 years ago

   You already have several good and wise responses from experienced hubbers, so take a break and think about this one...
   
   You will need 4,782 pages of content, in total. You can get away with as little as 2674 of that on hubpages, and split the rest up among eHow and Demand Studios.
   
   But, you don't have to do it all at once, after your 2361st content page, contact Google again, (be ready to provide proof of authorship), and inform them of your progress, but if you don't have at least 1287 of those pages on HP, then make sure you only contact Google on Wednesday, (that's the boss' day off, so the screeners may cut you a little slack), or else you will be sure of another denial.
   
   Now, pay attention, but don't tell anybody else this or it will ruin it for the few of us that are [i]in the know - (know what I mean)]/i] but you can count your forum posts as content pages too - even your replies.
   
   See no problem, look at how much closer you are to the money-making world of Google-topia already
   
   GA

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      Ania Lposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      So the longer this topic will be the better position for all of us Maybe we can reapply for google AdSense! There must be some additional points for it liek maybe they send a traffic twice -  espcially if you apply on Friday when everyone is looking for the weekend already so they want to do the work quick

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         HikeGuyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Cathy -- There may be exceptions, but I don't think this is a quick road to money.
         
         Three years ago I qualified for an AdSense account with four hubs and two barely-started blogs with maybe one or two articles each. Each article here and on Blogger contained unique content -- and I have a professional background in writing and editing.
         
         I don't know if the standards are different now. I didn't monetize the hubs until this spring, so I haven't made an AdSense payout yet. This was something I started as an experiment, and then I veered away into freelancing full-time. I'm not very patient, so I spend most of my writing time on assignments that pay upfront. Now I'm ramping up the experiment to see if HP can become an income stream. I am seeing a trickle coming into My HP ad account -- I just added that in October.
         
         Some people make money here sooner than others. Learning SEO and choosing niche topics with lower competition can help. Making your hubs attractive to readers can raise your value to Google, as I understand it. Detailed content, relevant pictures -- the more content relevant to the topic, the better.
         
         Some successful hubbers don't have a huge number of hubs -- they chose their topics well and they appeal to readers. So it isn't all about quantity -- quality work and popular -- yet not excessively competitive -- topics can perform well.
         
         Welcome, and good luck.
         -- Trent

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            Cathy Jones 68posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Thank you, Trent. I've been freelancing with pay on completion assignments for a few months, and have been looking for additional opportunities. I'll keep on with Hubpages, but I am also continuing to seek other ways to monetize my writing. Your post was helpful.

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   Carmina37posted 12 years ago

   I wasn't accepted either!!! I have 2 hubs now but I guess they must be pretty boring! I didn't add photos or anything but somewhere I saw "200" words so thought we had to write no more than that. However, mine were both nearly 400 in the end. What are we supposed to do? Someone on here said the longer the article the better. I can waffle longer if that's the case but what is the ideal number of words for a hub?

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      wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      The answer is not to fill a hub with "fluff", waffling like that adds only negativity for the reader.  If you cannot write more than 200 words you have chosen the wrong topic or don't enough about the one you did choose.
      
      While I have set myself a bottom limit of 500 words (and have only written a couple of hubs that short), my own hubs probably average around 1500 words. Many hubbers will tell you this is too much, but for my topics I just can't impart the information I have promised in less than that.

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         lobobrandonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Wilderness I totally agree each of my hubs except for two of them which are 800 words have crossed the 1200 word mark. I prefer giving complete information regarding a subject instead of sticking to low word counts

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   Carmina37posted 12 years ago

   Thank you guys. I didn't mean waffling in that sense. I too find it difficult to write less words on something I know about but thought there was a restriction. I will try to make my next hub interesting and more informative. Still not quite sure what type of things are wanted in hubs that no one has already written! I'll get used to it but hope you can all bear with me while I learn! In the meantime, it'll give you all a laugh to see this silly woman writing stuff that no one probably wants to know about!

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      lobobrandonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Carmina there's hubs about everything - atleast almost everything. But not all of them are written well. You could write about similar topics and out beat the competition. Just put in a little efforts your first 3-4 hubs will be a learning experience and from then on it will be a smooth journey.

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      wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      That actually is a problem - writing about stuff no one cares about.
      
      Learn to use the keyword tool and find out before you ever write if anyone is searching for your topic or chosen keywords.

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    Carmina37posted 12 years ago

    Thank you, I will look into it when I have more time but I just think it's fun to write, even if I don't write so well. Also, I haven't got to grips yet with how this all works, need to do some research. Links and things......ouch, I am not that clever yet with the computer to do that!

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       HikeGuyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Cathy -- You're welcome. I prefer having multiple income streams, too. You have the right idea. HP has useful tools -- check your stats tab on your hubs as your traffic develops and you'll see the keywords that search engines associate with each hub. I learn a lot from tweaking my older hubs and checking the results. And the site has many helpful people, so it's a valuable learning experience.

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    fancifulashleyposted 12 years ago

    I got approved for adsense while I only had 1 hub published. I guess I must be the exception to the rule though. I do not remember if I published more hubs before I got approved, but I do not believe that was the case.
    
    I wish you luck.

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