While I cannot complain with my views on Hubpages, I'm at a bad stage with commenting. I just wonder why nobody seems to enjoy my Hubs enough to comment. Are they too long? Do they not appeal to the Hubpages audience?
I do try and make them as lively as possible - but I sometimes find even myself coming off dull and dry. I will take any criticism about how I write and try to better myself. So, shoot!
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Here's some links if you want to check my Hubs.
I read your hubs! (I'm one of your followers and in the challenge with you.) I always vote and click on the "useful", "interesting," etc., but I sometimes have nothing to add to the conversation. Would you be happy to get comments like "Great hub! Voted up!"? Sometimes I think those aren't the kind of comments people want. I'll try to comment more, though. Keep up the great work!
Also, you post a lot of instructional hubs, so maybe people take the information, but don't bother to comment because they got the information they wanted. I think putting polls and questions in hubs help to prompt further discussion in the comments.
I instantly delete that kind of comment. It ads no value.
People often check to see if you replied to their comment. If you delete their comments they aren't likely to leave a second comment. You may be overlooking the value of the comment.
There is no value to "Great hub!" and there is nothing to respond to.
All this is about is people who hope to get some link love with near zero effort. Many of them don't even read the article they so enthusiastically endorsed.
I don't know what kind of exchange that would be... something like this?
Commenter: Nice hub!
Commenter: You're welcome!
I wouldn't respond to that kind of comment. I would probably delete it because it says to me that the person didn't even read or remotely "scan" my hub.
In fact, doesn't HubPages kind of discourage short comments like that with the comment accolade? If you leave a lot of "nice hub" comments, your accolade would be like a one or something. Not that accolades mean anything, but it's a way to encourage people to write longer, more thoughtful comments.
As a commenter, if the hub doesn't motivate me to give an opinion or leave a suggestion or offer some sort of "nugget" of info, then I don't leave a comment. If it was still a good hub, I'll click one of those "interesting" or "funny" buttons. That's what those buttons are for... to let the reader know that you found their information to be useful/good/interesting/whatever without leaving a comment that says "Great hub!"
On a side note... weird thing... but I find comments like "good job" kind of insulting and it's hard to explain why. It seems condescending to me somehow.
So why mention it other than to incite emotion from the user you unfollowed? It's petty to bring it up in public.
There is value, but not the kind of value you want, its not comments loaded with keywords $$$.
Knowing you delete comments that you deem valueless, show me you censor your 'discussions' or are unable to accept a simple compliment. So your right, my reading your articles and saying great hub, quite informative, thank you .. is a waste of my time and yours .. since you will only delete it.
Your right, its better I don't visit your hubs at all.
Its better I dont share your articles with family or friends who may benefit from them.
Surely that has more value.
Ayup. You said it. Leave a useless comment and I will delete it. If that offends you so much that you will never return, I don't think I have lost much.
You do realize that 99% of these are just people who want a link back to themselves? Maybe 1% are tight lipped folks who honestly just wanted to say "Nice job!"; the rest are just seeking attention in the easiest and laziest possible way.
By the way, "your" is possessive, as in "your car" or "your money". You want to use "You're" when you mean 'You are right" or similar sentiments. Sorry, it's a small matter, but one that annoys me.
I am not offended in the least, I am difficult to offend takes a lot of effort. I can look at a situation from more than one angle, can argue it to, whether I believe it or not. I was just trying to point out how others may view or see such a steadfast stance for no real reason other than your personal opinion. I just do not see the value in cutting off a portion of possible viewers over something so small that does not even reflect on you or your work.
Every one has their quirks, mine is when people sprout opinions and made up numbers as if it were fact, not a fan of spin doctors. Do you have sources for your statistical information presented here? Or were those just numbers you took out of your head, based on your personal experiences here, even if it does sound somewhat jaded.
Are you talking about my casual use of "99%"?
Yes, that's obviously a made up figure. I can't be sure of anyone's motivation.
Let me try to explain the value: suppose I had a page with 200 comments and 183 of them were two word "Great job" or similar useless expressions.
What would a new reader think? How hard would it be for them to find comments they might actually care about?
You want to say "Great job?" "Plus" it, "Like" it or share it. That actually means something.
I understand what you are saying and it is a valid point. As a new reader, I scroll right past all the comments that are one or two words. I don't leave the hub cause of it. I don't look down on the author for it. But every one is different and you may lose a few readers who couldn't be bothered to scroll a bit, kind of just as lazy as the reader who took the time to say great hub, thank you … as a compliment to your work, regardless what you assume their motivation is, they took the effort to write/comment. That is more than the one not willing to scroll a little bit.
You said previously, the loss of me as a reader or viewer of your hubs, was no great loss to you when I questioned your comment of deleting comments and I said that does not encourage me to post again nor view your hub. Knowing you delete comments you don't consider valuable leaves the door open that you would delete a comment you don't agree with (censorship) even if it was filled with valid points.
But I ask, why is the loss of me as a reader who is interacting with you no big deal or real loss to you, but the loss of other new readers are a loss for you when they are to lazy to scroll down a bit? I am new to hub pages, maybe I am missing something, not sure.
I like, plus and share all the time actually ... to date I have posted a number of different articles written by others that I felt a friend may like or enjoy, since most of my social circles are either not interested in a site like hub pages or flat out don't have the time to peruse the thousands of articles. But when the article is on one of their feeds, they are all over it.
I don't delete comments just because I don't agree with them, but I will delete comments that I feel are devoid of intelligence and of course those may very well express opinions that I don't agree with.
Ask any Conservative here about that. Most of their comments at my site get deleted instantly. Some get through. They'll insist that all their comments were intelligent and that I am unreasonable. They were not and I am not.
Did I say I was concerned about losing readers because of dumb comments left by others? No, i did not. My concern is for their enjoyment and ease of use.
I didn't say you were concerned, I was trying to see the logic in telling me my viewer ship to you is worthless if I don't like your 'dictatorship style' of your hub/comment control. I am trying, no, I was trying to understand the logic from a business standpoint, of the way you seem to pick and choose your readers based on how they comment or what their personal stance is in an issue.
I am trying to learn from people who are somewhat successful in their writings, money or the amount of people they have as viewers (your profile said you were a publisher, it was only natural to assume you knew what you were doing – and yes I check profiles/read a hub or two before I respond). What do they do that makes them successful on here. Thus my desire to understand the logic you are using …
I still don't understand why my viewership would be worthless to you or would be if I took the time to write “great hub”, voted it up and then picked the beautiful or amusing etc button … when the viewership of someone to lazy to scroll down (no doubt to lazy to click a few buttons and forget about copy and paste a url to friends) is so important. I am of the mind I will never understand such loopy logic and we are better off agreeing to disagree. So with that in mind,
Happy and Safe Holidays to you and yours.
I don't write from a "business standpoint". I don't think about business, I think about my readers.
I don't really do much of anything from a business standpoint. I never cared much about money and have pretty much always done the work I wanted to do for the people I wanted to do it for.
Business? Phooey on business. Too many important things that come ahead of that.
Pcunix - "You're" comment tantrum on "You're" smartest guy in the room Hub the other day, plus these comments, have just caused me to press Unfollow for the first time on HubPages.
That's not a reasonable conclusion. Deleting a meaningless comment is not censoring discussion.
Like Pcunix, I do not provide a Comments box so I can collect compliments to boost my ego. I provide a Comments box so people who want to voice their opinion can do so. Comments like "great Hub" just clutter up the space and distract people who are trying to read the Comments section. That's why I delete them.
I'm bamboozled by Hubbers who seem to think that if they make a comment, they're doing the writer a favour. I provide a comments box for the reader's benefit, not for mine.
Just having that makes me feel as though people are reading my work. I know views and votes may be nice, but I like comments to know which members actually enjoyed it.
Do you leave the type of comments you like on other people's Hubs?
Sometimes you have to practice the behavior you want to see in others. Leave insightful comments, and you won't be surprised when others return the favor.
Your target are searchers coming from search engines. Not Hubpages members.
I mean, if you would like people to comment more on your hubs, then I would suggest you become more active within the community itself. When you leave a comment on someone's hub, there's a good chance they might just check you out and see what you write about and possibly even read and comment on your hubs.
I've no clue whether or not your hubs are dry or dull or even too long. I've never read one.
However, on a side note, the Extreme Hub Makeover forum thread is a thread that is designed for you to post a couple of links to your hubs and get critiquing. You are more than welcome to do that if you would like, but to ask people to go through your 40+ hubs and critique them is a bit much.
Just thought you would have this information and now you do.
I am sorry, I've never been on this part of the forum.
Oh well, guess I'll pick 2-3 links at random, then you can critique why it is I'm not getting a large deal of comment. Of course, as you said, it may be because I'm not largely noticed in the community, but I believe I give a good part of my time on Hubpages to Hopping and Answers.
Like you, I get very few comments. And like Cagsil says, nearly all of my views are organic (out of 1600+ today, just 15 are from HP) - organic viewers seldom comment. Although a few do and it is nice to hear that a hub helped someone pass a test or fix their home when it does happen.
You can choose, of course, to write controversial hubs that hubbers may find interesting and comment on, but they don't earn well.
Well, that's not always true. I have had controversial subjects be big earners at times.
Of course here and now with HPADS I don't know what earned what.l
True, at least with HPads. My hub of the day produced a lot of hubber visits, along with a reasonable income. Or at least income went up that day by the appropriate amount that traffic went up. If that makes sense!
Otherwise, I've never had high earnings from hubber visits. Every time HP traffic goes up (percentage wise), adsense goes down.
I'm speaking of Adsense and at my main site and pre-panda, so that's a whole pile of qualification..
Generally, I agree with you. I'm just saying I have had single "controversy" pages that did $150 a month in Adsense all by themselves.
They aren't doing that anymore, BTW.
Oh absolutely, then! That was kind of my point - controversial subjects can earn big, just not so much from hubbers because they don't click.
A good subject that brings readers that even might click can be a good way to go, although they are seldom evergreen.
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