Do you submit your hubs more than once to the same social site?

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   kelleywardposted 12 years ago

   Just wondering if it is spamming to submit your hubs to the same social networking sites more than once? For example, if you wait a week or so between and you are trying to get your hub more traffic can you submit it again to Twitter or Facebook? Or is this a bad idea. Also if so then how long should you wait in between submissions?

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   Mark Ewbieposted 12 years ago

   I'm not convinced that social sharing does anything for traffic.
   
   Like to hear from some successful top Hubbers as to whether they even bother with it.

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      SimeyCposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I've had the occasional bit of luck with Reddit - but it's a day or two boost only. The only way I get decent traffic from any social media is when someone else shares my hubpages on Facebook - that usually means it's a good article and people are truly interested.
      
      About the only site where I get half decent traffic (and I mean a few views a day) is Redgage - but overall I get less than 1% of my traffic from social media.

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         Mark Ewbieposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks.  I think that confirms my suspicions.
         
         What you say about writing something good enough to be shared by OTHER people is important I think.

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   Pearldiverposted 12 years ago

   I don't even submit my works to social networks (yet).. I am not convinced (yet) that serious benefits to my objectives can be derived from the exercise, unless I specifically target regional groups and write for those readers.
   
   I may well be completely wrong.. but still, in the absence of using social media sites, my traffic has still been received from 180 countries + my own! That only leaves 12 countries in the world that I should perhaps target through social networking... do they have FB in North Korea? 

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   web-toolsposted 12 years ago

   No, I submit it once in social networking sites. We should not submit our hub in any other place. Google or any other search engine crawler does not like that.

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   Lisa HWposted 12 years ago

   I don't submit my Hubs to any social sites.  Oh - a rare exception:  Around Groundhog Day I did post a link to a Hub about that so I'd have something to ad to my otherwise empty, and unused, pages on Google+ and Facebook.  I do post links to my Hubs on any number of blogs(which aren't even fully developed as blogs yet), but - trust me - those blogs aren't in any position to be sending traffic anywhere. 

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      kelleywardposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Lisa then how do you get traffic ? I know you have great quality hubs and I'm sure that is how but don't you have to get noticed first before google ranks you High?

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         Greekgeekposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         kelley, there's two different ways to get traffic. One is through social sites, which work by word of mouth, and you'll get fans or critics depending on how you participate and how much people like what you share. The other is search engine optimization, which is based on your webpage being on-topic, focused, linking TO good pages about your topic and getting relevant links FROM other pages about your topic.
         
         Until recently, search engines  didn't consider links shared on social sites at all. For one thing, social sites tend to hide that information from search engine spiders. For another thing, even now that search engines are beginning to count some links shared on social sites (shares on Google Plus, for example), they are looking for significant social recommendations, not just self-promotion. So they look for links shared by "authority" figures such as, oh, a well-known sports commentator, a senator, an industry expert, or a highly-followed celebrity. The number of followers a person has amassed may count. Or, the number of times their Tweets, shares, etc are picked up and re-shared by others may count. Most of us don't count in the eyes of search engines unless one of our Tweets or social shares goes viral and gets picked up by a lot of people.
         
         So I don't use social media to promote my stuff to search engines, but to people, and I only do that in communities where I really am active. (There's nothing Reddit and other social communities hate more than "spammers," visitors who drop by to self-promote who don't participate in the social community).  I share many of my articles on Twitter, but I try to make sure I only share stuff that people really will want to read, and I share other things I find interesting, too. The more you establish a reputation for making interesting comments or sharing interesting things, the more people are likely to follow you. If you tend to share things related to one particular niche (cooking, for example), you're likely attract followers interested in that niche.
         
         How do search engines find new pages, if not through social media? The same way they did before social media caught on: through links from webpages they already know about. The chief advantage of an article site like Hubpages (or a blog) is that once it's established as a site that frequently adds new content, search engines keep coming back. When you post a new hub, your keywords cause that hub to show in the "related" box of other hubs sharing that keyword. The new hub appears on your profile at the top, and on the category pages, including the "latest" column. Search engines can and will find any one of those links and follow them to your new hub.
         
         But that's just to get a page discovered. And a page will get discovered by Google sooner or later, unless you hide it very, very deeply on a site that doesn't have a filing system like Hubpages'.  So rather than worry about getting my page found,  my goal is to help my page rank well for particular searches so it'll get traffic.  For that, I use on-page search engine optimization, which just means wriiting that's focused, relevant, specific, and on-topic.  I link to excellent resources related to my topic. I do a few preliminary Google searches to discover what words and phrases people tend to use when talking about my topic, and I try to use those words and phrases.  I brainstorm what kinds of questions people might ask, related to my topic, and if it fits what I'm writing about, I address those questions.

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            Glenn Stokposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Greekgeek, Very well said. You wrote a great explanation and it should be in the learning center as it is very helpful. 
            
            On that last point you made, about brainstorming questions people might ask... I go back to my published Hubs from time to time and check to see what people are asking when a search engine refers them to my Hub (available under the stats tab). Then I add a section to my Hub to address the most common questions if they are well related to the topic.

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               Greekgeekposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Glenn-- yes, yes, yes! That's one of my favorite methods. Search traffic data is the biggest resource we have: it shows us which things we're babbling about that other people actually care about.

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            Marisa Wrightposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I know this is an old thread but I only just stumbled across this post by Greekgeek, and it's so good, it 's worth a bump.
            
            Maybe you should make it into a Hub, GG!

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   savanahlposted 12 years ago

   I submit some of my hubs to Twitter, which is linked to my Facebook and I do get traffic from there but I try to submit relevant hubs. My twitter followers are mainly poets and writers so I'll submit poems. My Facebook friends are more family oriented so I'll share what's more relevant there. I also share on StumbleUpon and have had the most success there.
   
   To answer your question though, I only share once.

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   livewithrichardposted 12 years ago

   If you have a good social network then posting a link can be very favorable to boosting your traffic.  Of course writing good content that people feel obligated to share is optimal, but if you are only talking about Facebook and Twitter then you have to do more than just post the link.  You have to create a discussion and then do a call to action. 
   
   In the past 3 weeks I have been conducting an experiment and documenting the success on my latest hub on how to revise a hub.  In this experiment, I have taken my worst producing and lowest scored hub and brought it back to productive levels.  The hub, published in October of 09' had only produced 94 visits. The hub has had 264 visits since I started the experiment and most of that traffic from outside of HP by way of my social networks. 
   
   I asked my network questions related to the topic then asked if the questions were answered properly in the link provided.  It was a the call to action that drove the traffic. Without the call to action, the link would most likely have been glanced over and then ignored.

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      kelleywardposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      That's a creative way to get more traffic. I'm very new to this and with everything I've heard and read so far it seems to me that people will get more involved in reading what I have to say if I can find a way to include them first. Thanks for the helpful information livewithrichard and savanahl

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   Garrett Mickleyposted 12 years ago

   I do after a while but I dont make it an effort. My traffic comes from the Goog

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   Glenn Stokposted 12 years ago

   Each time I publish a new Hub I submit it once on Twitter.  This is actually repeated on my Amazon profile since I have a twitter feed there. So it gets extra exposure anyway, even though I just submit it once.

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    CWanamakerposted 12 years ago

    I have posted the same link on Twitter a few times using different text and tags.  I usually wait a month or two before tweeting something again though.

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       kelleywardposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Thanks Garret, Glenn, and CWanamaker!

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