Is anyone making a full time living with Hubpages?

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   hotwebideasposted 13 years ago

   I see a lot of advice from hubpage members on hubs, questions, and forum posts and the common advice seems to be to write a lot of hubs. No problem. I am writing a decent amount of hubs on technology, nutrition, and entertainment, but does anyone actually work full time and earn a full time living from hub pages?

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      Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Sure!  The staff! 
      
                                           

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         lobobrandonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         As Randy says

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         hotwebideasposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         The staff does not count. LOL. I mean just the members and non-staff.

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         Danette Wattposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         

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      Gina Cooleposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      The general consensus, based on Hubbers collective experience, is to spread your writing as wide as possible across the web.  Putting all your eggs in one basket is crazy - Hubpages could disappear overnight or earnings might fall dramatically because of changes in Google's search algorithm (this happens quite a lot!)

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         Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         So true!  And there are other pitfalls to only writing in one place.  Complete mismanagement, greed, and not listening to the writers themselves often dooms a content site to oblivion.  This happens quite often, believe it or not! 
         
         
                                                      

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         Johnrr631992posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Keep in mind that you cannot write the same article on other sites according to Google's policy. So putting all your eggs in one basket is essentially what you must do, although if Hubpages did disappear, then you could repost all your articles on another site like info barrel, but as of now, posting an article to more than 1 site would put you on grounds for banishment from Adsense.

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            Aficionadaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Huh? A lot of Hubbers write for multiple sites, including sites they own. Why do you say it's necessary for the OP to put all his eggs in one basket? I don't understand what you mean.
            
            And what about posting different articles on various sites?

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            Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Why?  As Aficionada says, you can write different articles on different sites.

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               Johnrr631992posted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Yes you can write different articles on different sites, but I got the impression they were talking about posting an article on Hubpages, then copying and pasting on another site, which is against the Adsense Terms of Service. Duplicate content is not allowed, but if its different info, then all power to you.

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                  sunforgedposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  https://www.google.com/adsense/localized-terms
                  
                  care to point out where such a restriction exists?
                  
                  It wouldnt be wise to use the exact same content and most of the writing sites wouldnt allow it under their own use policies, but it has nothing to do with adsense tos.
                  
                  the closest restriction would relate to copyrighted material, which wouldnt have been relevant if anyone had actually hinted at such a thing (which they didnt)
                  
                  
                  When I see these money/living questions, I always just wonder why you would want to! Giving up 40% of a couple of hundred bucks isnt a big deal, might be worth it for ease of publishing but giving up 40% of an amount of money you would consider a "living" should come with personal phone calls and backrubs .. once you are capable of generating the type of traffic that makes up a "living" you should be doing that 100% for yourself.

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      moneytoplistposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I have read a hub about successful hubbers yesterday and it seems that writing product related hubs instead of informational hubs is a good way. People doing this earn sometimes more than $5 per hub every month. I believe this way it is possible to make solid full time income.

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         hotwebideasposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         moneytoplist, do you mind sharing me the link to that hub?

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            moneytoplistposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            http://alocsin.hubpages.com/hub/The-Hig … onclusions ...check out the table

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               hotwebideasposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Thanks, MoneyTopList.

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      Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      No, and it would be very silly to attempt to do so.
      
      Theoretically, you could make a full-time income from HP.  It would be a long-term investment:  you'd have to write a few hundred Hubs, then work on  promoting them to achieve good ranking in Google's search engine results.  It might take a year or two to reach your goal.
      
      Trouble is, you don't own HubPages - and you can't be sure they won't go out of business, or sell the site, before you reach that goal.  Sure, you can keep copies of your Hubs and move them elsewhere if that happens - but that's almost useless, because they've lost all their backlinks and age and you'll have to start all over again.
      
      Although I don't expect HubPages to go bust, I'm sure the bloggers at Today.com didn't expect it to disappear either - but it did.
      
      HubPages is a good learning platform and a good place to earn some online income.  But it's not wise to put all your eggs in someone else's basket.

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      Marci Skinnerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Are there any webinars anyone can reccommend on blogging and getting followers to a blog?

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   relacheposted 13 years ago

   This question is asked frequently (about once a week) and a simple forum search will turn up those threads so you can read them.

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      hotwebideasposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Whoa Nelly!

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         Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Sorry, Nellie apparently fled the site! 
         
                                                      

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            hotwebideasposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            relache was Nellie. LOL

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               Jule Romansposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Wait, WHAT????

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               relacheposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               I'm quite sure I am not not now and never was Nelle Hoxie.  That marketing juggernaut departed some time ago.
               
               However you can find her doing her Cape Cod thing on her own site now.

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                  Jule Romansposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Thank you. :-) I corresponded with both of you... so I was going to be very confused!!!

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   sukrithaposted 13 years ago

   Just work hard and you will get the answer for it... Simple

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      IzzyMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Are Indian auntie hubs still the way to get traffic to this site?

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         Rik Ravadoposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I used to make a fortune from Indian Aunty Hubs.  I had a couple of referrals who signed up and wrote several hundred Hubs.  About 2 years ago HubPages/Google drove them away and they took the aunty hubs with them. My traffic dropped like a stone Sigh! Proof you can't depend on anything online, even 'hot' aunties!

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         Teresa Schultzposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         What are Indian Aunty hubs?

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   pisean282311posted 13 years ago

   yes if ur per day expense are in cents...

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      hotwebideasposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      That is not too encouraging, but it sure is fun watching the community form around everyone's hubs.

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      Bianuposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Or if you write 10,000 hubs

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   PaulGoodman67posted 13 years ago

   As others have said, it's probably best to aim for a "part-time" income from several sources, including HubPages.  Much as I love HP, it's not good to put all your eggs in one basket.

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   Bard of Elyposted 13 years ago

   It is the best site I know for making money online though I really wish I could make a lot more here because I still haven't made it into the high-earners!

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      lobobrandonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You've got the hubs to do it though. At least in terms of numbers

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   SPomposelloposted 13 years ago

   That makes sense, about putting your eggs in one basket, but the thing is there's not too many great places to write for nowadays. I think HP is great. I used to write for Associated Content which is now Yahoo Contributor Network, but the change in management really hurt the site, IMO, they got rid of their featured contributor program which paid $10/article for 4 articles a month, they really screwed a lot of people like myself over when they did that. Sure you can still write PER view on there but I really don't trust writing for that site now after all that's happen.
   
   I've heard good things about Experts Column but haven't tried them and then there's Triond which I wrote for for a little while, had some decent earnings here and there, still have my account with them. But HP is such a better site than Triond due to not just earnings (which I've seen an increase since I started) but due to its community and readership.

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      Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Yep, I removed most of my articles from AC/Yahoo several years ago after they began doing the old favoritism thing with their cheerleaders and in their contests.  Glad I did so as it has steadily become an us" versus "them" site as most content sites eventually do.  And some of the people on the forums there are even more irritating than I am.  No really!   
      
      I sold some stuff and made a few bucks there but since the purchase by Yahoo there are some awfully disappointed members there now.  At least those who haven't abandoned ship already. 
      
      Even with all of its faults--and yes HP has plenty--this site is still one of the best other than having your own-- in my opinion.  There are others I'm checking out now, though.  I hear good things about them too. 
      
                                         

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         Don Simkovichposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Glad to hear your views on Yahoo/AC ... I think it's easy to pick up a $10 buck article or 2 per week but I've not been very active there.

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         SPomposelloposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Yeah. I still have my account with them but I don't write or anything, I just keep it for pizza money LOL. I get like $5-6 a month from there in my paypal. I'm considering taking some of my film reviews from there and "rebooting" them on here.

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   WD Curry 111posted 13 years ago

   Maybe, but not me. How important is that? Let's talk value. I have made little money on HubPages. Bottom line . . . traffic. To make money with this gig, you need traffic in the hundred thousands. It is not impossible. Those with savvy and a good head start have done it. They have been digging in the mines for ten years.
   
   I am and artist. I don't need that kind of traffic to sell my wares. I have figured a pretty good plan from my learning experience here. I would say the last six months are equivalent to two years of creative writing and tech courses. My next step is to establish a gallery and a store. I was wondering what to do next when I got here, and now I know.
   
   See, hubs tie in to other places and have a long shelf life, if you do it right. It has opened up regional and local opportunities for me. I owe some contract work to my exposure. Listen, I give them a card . . . it says, "Google WD Curry 111".
   
   That is worth something, right there. I say thanks, staff!

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   Don Simkovichposted 13 years ago

   I like HP ... and enjoy the "formula" for writing. I would also suggest looking to magazines ... yep they still exist. I'm going to begin searching out some for freelance articles.

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      hotwebideasposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Very cool, Don. I am interested in seeing what magazines you uncover as the best.

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      Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, there are some great mags I'd like to have a shot at.  Right now I'm working on a KindleBook.  I sold a few stories several years ago to another publisher who is still selling them on Amazon.  Something new to try as I'm getting bored here. 
      
      I think I have 18 articles on AC/YAHOO with around 300,000 views or so.  I'm not sure as I seldom even check in there anymore.  I detest that Angie b*t*h! 
      
      
                                                 

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         Angie Jardineposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Do you mean me? I hadn't realised I was a b*t*h ...

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            Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Not unless you've changed your name and your looks!    In your case I would have to ask your husband!
            
                                                     

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    Richieb799posted 13 years ago

    Earning Money on HP relies almost entirely on Google, and Google is a monopoly I just use it as an extra source, I'm managing to achieve a payment each month, but the amount can vary dramatically depending on the season.

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       David 470posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Same here. The amount can vary. I was making much more last fall than I am now.

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    rmcleveposted 13 years ago

    This is interesting. I didn't know too much about HubPages worked, but I've been trying to decide whether or not to open an account on other writing sites (Squidoo, in particular).
    
    Personally, I have enjoyed writing here more than I have on many other sites (with the exception of Viewpoints, which was an unpaid gig). I do have 2 websites with blogs, so I do have some diversification, but I would rather write here, to be honest! The community is so friendly and you get so much feedback so quickly.
    
    Thank you for sharing your thoughts, everyone! They've taught me a lot already. I'm going to follow some of you so I can keep up with your work.

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    Debbiestrangeposted 13 years ago

    What is Yahoo/AC?  I've never heard of it. 
    
    I did a great deal of freelancing but got bored with it because so much of it is SEO material and I ended up having to write ten articles about the same product and all the articles had to be different.  There is just so much one can say about a dog collar.
    
    Would love to be directed to some of the other sites that offer payment for articles, if anybody would like to share.

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       Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Wizzley, Infobarrel, Excerpt, Xobba, Seekyt, Zujava.

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          PaulGoodman67posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Squidoo is the 2nd best for earnings in my experience after HP.

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    johnakcposted 13 years ago

    I am also trying to do it..
    But don't know when I will be able to do it.
    But I am not giving too much time to it..

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    SPomposelloposted 13 years ago

    The thing about sites like Today.com and AC/Yahoo is that not only do they pay PPV, they also offer upfront payments. IMO, upfront payments is where things get ugly for writing sites in general. Because the company's budget is at a bigger stake. The same goes for PPV, but the real killer for them are upfront payments I think.
    
    However, sites like Xomba and HP thrive on Adsense, HP Ads Program, Ebay ads program, etc. to compensate its members. So, in a sense, I guess you can say that is saving them money. The more money they get to save, the longer they will stay on top and the less likely they will be able to disappear.
    
    That's why AC/Yahoo and Today.com went through so many changes as far as compensation goes. They were losing money, started looking for reasons to get rid of articles and some members. With AC/Yahoo's Featured Contributor program, lots of us applied for it and got in. We were in the program for at least a good 2 years or so, making $10/article for 4 articles a month plus PPV. THEN, all of a sudden, Yahoo steps in and changes everything.
    
    "Oh some of these featured contributors are not good enough"
    
    Well then, should'a thought about that BEFORE accepting our application! Talk about getting stabbed in the back.

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       Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Exactly.  I think upfront payments are dangerous for any rev-sharing website - because we all know that most brand new Hubs earn money at the rate of a few cents a month.  It takes time for them to start generating serious income.  So if HubPages pays even a few dollars upfront for a Hub, they'll take several months to recoup that investment.
       
       HP has just started paying upfronts for the Apprenticeship Program, but that's a small number of Hubbers and HP is dictating what they write about.  So that's probably manageable.  But just imagine what Today.com's cash flow was like - paying out $1 for every blog post, month after month, and then waiting anxiously for the income to start. Which it didn't, because the site was full of people blogging about their cat or what they ate for breakfast, and their forums were full of people giving amateur advice on how to promote their work.  No wonder they didn't survive!

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          Druid Dudeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I would have to eliminate my present account...but traffic is so low I doubt I would survive on the income. I would need to mainstream some hubs...Popnet....you know, like Pop music.

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    technicheposted 12 years ago

    I am trying to do the same ,, but due to my personal Blog and studies , it becomes tiresome work ,,,

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    shin_rocka04posted 12 years ago

    I'm making no where near a full living, but indirectly it's helping me to make some good money from my blog through link traffic.

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