Oddball Question...

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   DzyMsLizzyposted 11 years ago

   I have in mind an article that is a serious criticism and warning of a certain well-known online site because they do things that are egregious violations of privacy.
   
   I would prefer totally un-related ads on that article.  In my corporate greed series, Google picked up on the keywords and placed ads for exactly the things I was writing against!  I don't want that to happen; I don't want any person to think I am giving that site "props" or promoting them in any way.
   
   So---if I don't use the name of the site, but make "transparently oblique"  references to it, (yes, I know--that's an oxymoron of sorts) and use dodges such as
   c r e a t i n g   e x t r a   s p a c e s  between letters in some words, will that keep Google from recognizing what I am talking about, (and thereby place unrelated ads) while still keeping it readable for the audience? 
   
   (I'd probably write a short intro paragraph to explain that to readers, so they would not think the piece was full of poor typing errors.)
   
   What say you all?

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      Diane Woodsonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Use any technique that works for you, maybe you could make a hub about it if you haven't all ready so we could see it...guess Google ad sense will too though..jeepers not sure..

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         SandyMcCollumposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I say give it a shot. It can't hurt, can it? Before, I was ad-less for using poison words in an article and it took me some time to get my related ads back. I had to change the article, even tho I wasn't writing about anything bad. But if you use spaces like that, it may confuse the program enough to not recognize the poison words as words and give you random, unrelated ads. OR, will it raise a red flag to Google that your articles contain letters that don't form words, or regard it as poor content... Geez, that's a hair twister.
         
         Anyone knowledgeable about this?

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      Dale Hydeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      It is a weird situation. If Google does NOT recognize it, it will not rank in the search engine for traffic, right? Maybe I have been up too long, but that is what jumped out at me upon reading the overall question(s) and the comments shared.
      
      A great point you raise however. I shall follow along and keep up with the responses.

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      Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Extra spaces probably won't work, because I know Google disregards spaces in some keywords (for instance, it supposedly sees belly dance and bellydance as pretty much the same). 
      
      How about creating a photo containing the name of the site, and uploading that as the first image?  You can then refer your readers to the photo and explain why you're not using the name of the site in the text.

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         DzyMsLizzyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Hi, Marisa--
           Thanks--and I found that extra spaces didn't work very well anyway, as the capsule tool then disregarded the space between two words entirely and ran them together as one!  Grrrrr...  Oh, well, I managed to write the entire piece without mentioning the site by name, and without using ad-alert words such as "social networks."  ;-)
         
         Also, the < pre > (minus spaces) html tag you're supposed to be able to use doesn't work, either.  I went into the html edit screen, inserted those tags where needed to try and keep my formatting, and what came up but a dialog box saying the html needed to be "cleaned up."
         Ironically, it listed the allowable tags...among them the very self-same "pre" that I had used!  Supposedly allowed, but then ignored, and the "cleanup" resulted in the ugly all-on-one-line "preformatted" style instead of simply maintaining my preferred spacing.  I guess that's what the "pre" stands for... instead of "maintain as given," which was my intent.
         Oh, well, I'm no programmer, and I'll probably never understand all of that...there aren't enough years left in my life to learn it and still have time to put it to use.. 
         As for using a photo--containing the name--this is the "major biggie," and I'd be fearful of running afoul of copyright issues....

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            Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I don't mean an official logo. I mean, write "....... exposed" on a big piece of cardboard and photograph it.  With you holding it and making a rude gesture if you like! No copyright issues there, and neither the Googlebot, nor any checker the company might have, would be able to read it.

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               DzyMsLizzyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Oh--hee hee....

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                  Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  It is a serious suggestion - I'd do it in your shoes!

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                     DzyMsLizzyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     OK--I will make that attempt....thanks for the idea...

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                        Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                        I know you can't post a link, but if you post here to let us know when it's done we can go to your profile and find your newest Hub.  Curious to see what you have to say!

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                           paradigmsearchposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                           My guess is that it is this one. http://dzymslizzy.hubpages.com/hub/If-Y … -You-Think

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                              DzyMsLizzyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                              You are quite correct, Pardigm!   

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                              Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                              Aha!
                              
                              How's this for an illustration?  Subtle pun...
                              
                              http://www.flickr.com/photos/massimobar … 185202042/
                              
                              Or if you want to be more direct:
                              
                              http://www.flickr.com/photos/stoneysteiner/5713704415/
                              
                              Neither of these would present copyright issues.

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      Uninvited Writerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      A lot of the ads you see are based on what you have looked at previously.

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         Pearldiverposted 11 years agoin reply to this

           Good point UW... But in the opening post..
         She Denies having any interest in That Issue!!
         
         Perhaps disabling your search history might be worth considering. I believe the instructions to that process can be found under the keyword 'corruption' in a standard Google search! 

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   paradigmsearchposted 11 years ago

   If this was an evenball question I'd be able to help you...
   
   No, seriously. It's a good question. I don't know the answer.
   
   Bump.

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      DzyMsLizzyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      LOL--I'm mostly odd--short on evenballs, sorry. 

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   AEvansposted 11 years ago

   I am with Paradigm, great question do not know. ***Bump***

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   Shadesbreathposted 11 years ago

   This is exactly the sort of fun I have had on Hubpages writing satire. I slam the crap out of stuff and their ads show up on the article. I laugh. HOwever, I can see how what you are trying to do would make it less amusing. (I still laugh that Fiber One bars advertise on my hub talking about how they nearly blew up my as$, or the SEO advice stuff that shows up on my hub bagging on SEO, etc.)

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      DzyMsLizzyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      True, Shadesbreath....and your satire is of the winning variety, making such incongruities actually funny indeed.
      
      However, I'm not doing a satirical piece; I'm deadly serious, and I would not find it amusing in the least to find ads for the site I'm slamming....   
      thanks for your input...  ;-)  It's always good to hear your take on things.

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         Shadesbreathposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Just turn off ads.

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            DzyMsLizzyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Oh?   Did not know you could turn off ALL ads to an article...I thought some were still shown anyway....
            Hmmm..in fact, I just checked, and the box where you used to check "hub can be considered/not considered commercial" is gone. There is no more setting to turn off ads...maybe globally, but not for just one hub at a time...
            I think that went away with the HP ad program?  Or maybe when I first signed up for AdSense?

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               Shadesbreathposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               I just looked at one, I can still turn off ads. In Edit Hub mode, click OFF the checkmark "this hub may be considered commercial." When you uncheck that box, the drop down next to it then lights up so to speak and you can click "None" and, in theory, that should turn off ads.

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                  DzyMsLizzyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  That's the thing--I never saw that button--it used to be there, but seems to be gone.  (Yes in edit mode.)

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                     Shadesbreathposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     Weird. I still have it on mine.

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   Beth100posted 11 years ago

   Have you tried a replacement word?  For example, you might say Social Site A will now be referred to as "Bleep". Maybe choose a word that reflects what ads you would like. 
   
   Or, an acronym in place of the company name with one referral to what the acronym stands for.
   
   Like Shades, I thought that turning off the ads in the hub would work.  It's odd.... I still have access to that too. 

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      DzyMsLizzyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      if Wal-Mart claims it's "lowering prices every day..."  maybe Hub Pages slogan should be, "changing things every day..."   

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         Beth100posted 11 years agoin reply to this

           that's too funny!!! 

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   SandyMcCollumposted 11 years ago

   Whenever I make a new hub, that particular box is pre-checked for me, and sometimes I forget to uncheck it before I publish. I didn't really know what it meant, tho, until now.

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