Will Shari'a ever replace current law in the United States?
As more and more Americans turn to Islam and more immigrants are Muslims, it is predicted by some that with their higher birth rate, Muslims will one day be the majority in the United States and as such will play an ever larger role in making our laws and forming government policy. To what extent will our legal system then be influenced or replaced with Sahri'a? How long do you think it would take? How do you think a Muslim majority in the United States would affect Christians, Jews, and those of other religions here?
I wouldn't want Sahri'a law, ideas, notions, etc to be visited upon anyone. I have sisters and nieces. One of my sisters, the youngest, runs a school canteen. The oldest of my sisters had an executive position with a Japanese tire firm. What's more, all but one of my nieces has gone to university. The only reason she hasn't gone yet is that she is too young. A niece who graduated some time ago works in the medical profession. All the women save the youngest have a driver's license. None of what I have written so far would shock, surprise or amaze you. But what if I said that under Sahri'a law this level of education for females would be forbidden and the kind of work that would result from a good education would also be forbidden to females. And no driver's license or right to travel anywhere without a proper male escort - either a male member of the family or a husband. Shocked now? I hope so.
Then there is the barbaric custom of female circumcision. There is no medical reason for it and it is generally performed at a time when the female will feel the maximum pain from the procedure. Plus it will then always have a negative effect for them on their sex life. Add to this it is sometimes done with instruments such as rusty razor blades that are not properly sterilized and you are looking at infections as well. I wouldn't want any of that visited upon my loved ones.
Some years ago at a Cronulla beach south of Sydney in Australia there were Muslim youth picking on young women because they were wearing bikinis in summer. Naturally, the locals didn't like this but the police, because of political correctness concerns, were made helpless to act. Things got out of hand when a life saver was struck by a Muslim man. The life saver had just saved the life of a Muslim woman who was drowning in the surf but he did put his hands on her in order to save her which is a no-no. What developed was a peaceful demonstration against Muslims taking over Cronulla turning into a riot.
Oh, and there have also been young idiots who have decided to become Muslim. One fellow you can laugh about. He decided to become one and thought celebrating with a beer was a good idea. He wondered then why under Sahri'a law he needed to get beaten up.
And so a Muslim majority in the USA or elsewhere pushing Sahri'a law would be, not only a disaster for the women of the country, but the men as well. Your freedoms would be tossed out. Women would become little more than slaves and baby producing machines. Thank God that not all Muslims practice or even agree with Sahri'a law.
Say Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?! My dear, those are Mexicans you see all over the US, not Muslims.
HA! Just wait a bit...Thanks to two wars you could still get your flood of Muslims. Most are okay. It's the extremists you have to worry about. In Australia we do have Muslims coming into the country because of fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Have you talked to the people in Dearborn, Michigan?
Shari'a isn't even popular in most Muslim countries, and it will never become popular in America. There is no Muslim majority, and there will never be in America. That's just the way it is. It won't be influenced, it won't be brought up. The Bible is quoted just about every day in our wonderful Capitol, and the Koran, nowhere to be found.
We should hope that we will remain as always the America we know..there have been enough changes in our country with regards to rules,laws,rights,politics,
education,immigration and society in general...and we need to step up and take responsibilty for ourselves to make sure we keep what we have safe, other wise our country will become as others...and there will be no future for our children..
We pray that the only majority will be Americans , regardless from which people come..you come to America you should live like America..just my thoughts..
very interesting question...look forward to other responses...
There are Muslims who come to countries like Australia and the USA to escape Shari'a Law and who can blame them? The thing is, though, that in both Australia and the USA we boast of freedom of religion.
It is worth noting that Muslim extremism and Christian extremism are very closely related. That said, while Shari'a law will never become the law of the day in America, we have some in our political process who would like to have the law of the land more closely follow Biblical law to the letter.
And while I was raised in a very religious household, I would never want to live in a nation where the laws were based on the same principles I was raised believing.
You are right about Muslim and Christian extremism being just about as bad. I, too, would not want to live in a country where you have religious nut-jobs running things.
There is a scare-mongering video on YouTube about this, claiming that the numbers of Muslims will grow exponentially whilst the birth rate of the non-Muslim population is not even high enough to maintain their current numbers.
This is assuming, however, that the birth rate of Muslims will remain permanently significantly higher than the rest of the population. In fact, immigrant families from poor countries often have lots of children, as in their own country you have to rely on your sons to look after you in your old age. This is also the case in many Catholic countries; it's not a particular feature of Islam.
In western countries there is a state safety net in the form of pensions and welfare. Also, with better medical care, children are less likely to die. If that situation isn't destroyed, the immigrant groups tend to have fewer children in subsequent generations. Besides that, the nature of the very mixed population of the USA - and particularly the Bible belt - would make it very hard to implement Sharia Law without first having mass conversion.
I think we should concentrate on making our own countries the best we can for all citizens, not just the rich, and restore the decent values that in many parts of society we have tossed away. Then perhaps the urge some young people have to join other religions in the hope of finding these would fade.
Mahmo seems to be part of this scare-mongering. I took him to be a Muslim.
A bit scarey if a Muslim has that kind of wishful thinking.
A lot of Muslims DO believe that one day everyone will follow Islam, but that does not mean they want to achieve this by force and violence. This is not the real reason behind terrorist activity.
Mazzy Bolero Thank you your comment is perfect and right.
I for one don't want to live in a country where girls wearing bikinis in summer are banned from beaches and also where tank tops and mini-pants are made illegal. Also I don't want to live in a country where women are not entitled to an education.
That would be a real shame. Not because it is part of the Muslim religion, but because it is part of a religion. This country was founded by The Founding Fathers, most of whom were Deists and not affiliated with any religion. They wanted this country to be a country where you could practice any religion you chose. They didn't want this country to be founded ON A RELIGION. They would be rolling in their graves if this came to pass. (Actually, they are probably already rolling in their graves because of what this country has turned into, but that's another story completely.)
The French have made it clear that they don't want religion to once more become part of politics in their country. They fear that Muslims may force the issue.
Haha, that would never happen. And no people, don't jump to conclusions and think that im anti-Islam. For one, Hispanics will be the majority by 2025. Two, we barely got a black president, don't think we will get a Muslim in any time soon. Third, in this country, the only people that are hindering anything and anybody are the Extreme Christian fundamentalists. Fourth, people in this country argue about banning sodas and sugar in schools, pretty sure people would complain and argue about Muslims taking over the country.
The American president was educated in Indonesia which has a fairkly strong Muslim population. As said earlier there isn't a great deal of difference between Christian nut-jobs and Muslim nut-jobs.
The United States, as a nation, is defined by its constitution. The First Ammendment guarantees freedom of religion which has been consistently interpreted as complete separation of Church and State. So the United States being a nation of secular laws is a definition of the United States.
I don't think that orthodox Islam will ever be a majority religion in the US. The US is too diverse, not only in terms of the number of religions here, but also in terms of the range of secularism to orthodoxy within each religion.
If orthodox Muslims came to be a majority population in North America, then clearly Muslim law and culture would have some effect. Back when Christianity had more impact, there were laws against selling liquor on Sunday which are largely gone now. We might see a return to such traditions, but of a more Muslim nature.
But if North America accepted Shari'a, then this nation would no longer be the United States, which is a secular nation founded on the principle of the separation of Church and State. And the same could be said if North America became primarily Catholic and accepted Canon Law. By definition and heritage, we are a secular nation, and that gives us freedom of religion and diversity of faith.
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