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What makes so many religionists highly intrusive regarding their particular reli

  1. gmwilliams profile image85
    gmwilliamsposted 3 years ago

    What makes so many religionists highly intrusive regarding their particular religious views whereas

    so many atheists are not as intrusive regarding their ethical views?

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  2. Rod Marsden profile image74
    Rod Marsdenposted 3 years ago

    I don't know if atheists are always non-intrusive regarding their ethical views. There was the form of communism that developed in the 19th Century and came to prominence in the 20th Century and is still with us. I have been reading up on Marx, Engels and also Lenin. Take Lenin's views on Tsarist  Russia in the Russian wedding cake: We rule you (the Tsar and  the royalists), We fool you (the Church), We shoot you (the military), We eat for you (the middle class) and, finally, We feed all (the peasants/workers). Was this right? Yes. But what replaced it, especially under Stalin, was no better and for many a damn sight worse. Marx once had it that religion is the opiate of the people and, of course, he was right. This can, however, only be seen as either an agnostic or atheist point of view. Were ethical changes initiated by the Bolsheviks once in power? Oh yes.

    As for what makes so many people into religion in a heavy way a pain for those who aren't, well, there's one reason that seems to crop up. Where people are extremely poor and they only have their religion they tend to push it for all that it is worth. You see this in Pakistan (Muslims) and you see this in the Bible belt of the USA (Christianity). There was a time when I thought the monkey trial business of the 1920s belonged in that time but you do have creationists flogging their fake science and thus getting in the way of real science. Of course there's nothing more intrusive than someone strapping a bomb to themselves and blowing up a bus load of people because they may not agree with their particular view on God or how the universe came about.

  3. Austinstar profile image85
    Austinstarposted 3 years ago

    If I discovered that I was wrong and people were pointing out to me that there really are gods controlling the universe, I would be fighting back too.
    When an idea is implanted at a young age about this or that religion, it becomes a part of them. If they discover as an adult that everyone has lied to them their whole life, it can make for some radical thoughts. They MUST be right because they KNOW their gods, they FEEL their gods. But eventually myths turn into reality and they are let down. So they fight back.

    1. Rod Marsden profile image74
      Rod Marsdenposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Yes well. The Gods are created by the people therefore they are part of the people makes sense. Poverty I feel still plays a strong role in religious fanaticism.

  4. John Parks profile image69
    John Parksposted 3 years ago

    Many atheists are not as intrusive regarding their ethical views, you state in your question.  Atheists can be very good and moral people, and most of them are, but . . . and that is where so many ignore history. 

    Atrocities have been committed on both sides.  Atheist regime's under Mao Tse Tung killed 80 million of his own people.  Stalin was responsible for purging 20 million Russians.  Pol Pot's genocide murdered 2 million people, that amounted to 25% of the population of Cambodia.  These deaths can rightfully be chalked up to Atheists.  That being said, it is the exception, rather than the rule, but we cannot ignore history.

    Atrocities in the name of religion, are just as horrible. Crusaders marched on Turks and Muslims, wholesale slaughter was the order of the day, in the name of God.  Today we see ISIS committing atrocities in the name of Allah.  Their goal is a Caliphate and world conquest.  These incidences are aberrations of the teaching of Christ.  Many Muslim scholars will tell you that Jihad is all about spiritual warfare.  Atrocities have been committed on both sides and we cannot ignore history, or we will repeat it.

    As far as intrusive behavior, in every day life.  Most faiths teach their adherents to preach their teachings to the lost.  A person on the receiving end of someone's zealous evangelism will often feel resentful and uncomfortable, while the evangelist will feel they are just sharing their faith, and doing God's work. 

    We see the teaching of Atheists in our Universities, Colleges, High Schools and Elementary Schools as just simple education.  Yet people of faith and religion, see it as intrusive regarding their beliefs and faith in God.  We all need to see both sides of the coin, before we start pointing fingers.  Albert Einstein made a statement, that I really like.
    "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

    We need to ask ourselves some important questions.  Where does our hope come from?  Is there existence after this life?  How do we justify suffering and pain?  Religion gives many people comfort to these questions.  Others are looking at a bleak picture of the universe.  Maybe religionists just can't cope with such hopelessness.

    1. Rod Marsden profile image74
      Rod Marsdenposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Comfort can equate as opiate. Mind you the Crusades proves that religion can also be a stimulant.

 
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