Has bottle feeding contributed to an increase in homosexuality?

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   Oztinatoposted 10 years ago

   Has bottle feeding contributed to an increase in homosexuality?
   
   Frued posited early infantile influences as causes of later human sexual behaviour. Has the decrease in breast feeding and increase in bottle feeding imprinted phallic attractions in later adult behaviour? The lack of the soft sensual breast and its replacement with the long hard warm bottle may have imprinted on behaviour.
   No genetic evidence of a gay gene has been found.

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   jlparkposted 10 years ago

   I highly doubt it.
   
   Homosexuality is not new, bottle feeding is - eg homosexuality has been around since the beginning of time, bottle feeding is a 19/20th century invention.
   
   If we used your reasoning - many female breast fed babies would be lesbians, and any bottle fed female babies would prefer the opposite sex.
   Homosexuality is not a 'male' only thing, nor is it a human only thing.
   
   I find it interesting that people who are not homosexual, spend so much time thinking about the sexual lifes and attractions of those who are .....there are much better things to be thinking on.

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      Oztinatoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Jlpk
      It may be just a major contributing factor. Of course there are often purely hormonal factors.
      The huge increase in gays is largely parallel to the introduction of bottle feeding.
      In females this could lead to increased penis envy and acts etc.

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      jlparkposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      There isn't an increase in homosexuals. It is just more open now than it EVER used to be - sexuality in general. They have always been there, it's just now you see them. Anyway, if it did (which it doesn't) cause it - what would you do about it?

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      Oztinatoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Jlpk
      What would I do? Merely point it out so others would be more aware.
      There has been arguably a drammatic increase parralleling bottle feed introduction.

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      Robert the Bruceposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Insightful answer, jlpark. Those familiar with actual statistics know that indeed homosexual levels have remained pretty much the same. As to the discovery of a genetic cause, I think it's only a matter of time.

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      jlparkposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I'd like to see these statistics you have Oz, abt this increase, as I'm curious. It's likely that the introduction of bottle feeding merely coincides with more openness around human sexuality, but I'd still like to see these stats.

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      Oztinatoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Rob
      Ur answer confirms the absence of genetic proof.
      History mentions rare examples of mainly hermaphrodites and bulk lesbians.

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      jlparkposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Oz - those stats? You make comments yet have yet to provide the stats to show a huge increase.

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      Oztinatoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Limited room to discuss here due to word limits.
      See the wiki historical record of gayness.

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      jlparkposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      If you mean wikipedia (the encyclopedia that can be edited by ANYONE with or without education) - provide the link - as "historical record of gayness' does not exist. Wiki isn't a good source to be basing ANYTHING on. (Iimits - I'll comment more soon

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       Oztinatoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       Jlpk
       Basic general knowledge should tell you for example that tribes and even cuvilisations of lesbians existed in ancient history. Such facts add to the veracity of my theory.

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       jlparkposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       I know of Lesbos, but if your theory was in the slightest correct - there would be more. Wikipedia cannot be used for a source in teritary education (or any online courses I know of) due to the issues with it's veracity. So not a good source to use.

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       Oztinatoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       Jlpk
       Take time to think. Use basic general knowledge. Refer to E Brittanica etc
       Lesbos etc increases veracity to the theory.

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       jlparkposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       I did. And you still haven't provided any statistics. Merely vague assumptions. Yes, homosexuality SEEMS more prevalent - but it isn't - it's just more open. Lesbos may be accurate to a point, but it doesn't prove male homosexuality at all.

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       Oztinatoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       Jlpk
       please think further on it. You are racing. I am not saying Lesbos proves male sexuality just that it is a major history proof of my theory here.

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       jlparkposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       I am thinking on it. Even asked a question here to help prove, or disprove, your theory - to help both of us. I can see the thing with Lesbos, but it also proves homosexuality has been around MUCH longer than bottle feeding - male and female.

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       junksellerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       Lesbos was an ordinary island, not a colony of Lesbians. Regardless, there have also been tribes/civs with high rates of male homosexuality. Cherry-picked examples say nothing about overall homosexual rates, proportions, or historic change.

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       jlparkposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       Junk - thank you.

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       Oztinatoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       The Lesbos example merely shows that breast feeding can lead to
       lesbian attraction perhaps without phallic uses. The bottle is another spanner in the works.

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   Aime Fposted 10 years ago

   As jlpark said, if the act of breastfeeding somehow attracted males to females, then breastfed females would also be attracted to females.
   
   What data are you using that shows a "dramatic increase" in homosexuality that parallels bottle feeding? Or are you just making a vague estimation?

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      Oztinatoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Yes there has always been a more touchy feely aspect to female behaviour as well as alleged penis envy but bottles compound the issues

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      jlparkposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Your theory would also mean that bottefed females wouldn't/couldn't be gay...and they can be. I second the vague estimation - if you are going to make bold statements - where are the numbers? (No wiki)

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      Oztinatoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Jlp
      Think first: early exposure to bottle feeding may lead to females increased alleged penis envy etc. This is not a hub and abbreviation is necessary.

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      jlparkposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Oz - perhaps you should write a hub on it then. You asked for opinions on your theory - so we provided them. If you want to espouse your theory in a more comprehensive form (with room for stats etc) then write a hub - I'll happily read it.

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      Oztinatoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      The limits here are questions and answers.
      My work keeps me too busy at times to write hubs.

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      jlparkposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Understood - same here (work and an 8mth old!). Let us know if you have the chance to do it.

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   junksellerposted 10 years ago

   It might make some sense that sucking on a breast as a child imprints on us and we then grow up to like sucking on breasts. A boob is a boob so there is a direct correlation and because the boob is an object attached to a woman it might also make some sense that we would grow up to like women.
   
   Bottle-sucking leading to liking penises, however, makes little sense; they are vastly different objects. And bottle-sucking leading to liking men makes even less sense, because with bottle-sucking there is no connection at all to it being an object on someone's body.
   
   And as jlpark noted, if the object one sucks on as a kid leads to one's sexual orientation, we would expect to see women being disproportionately gay. And we don't.
   
   Maybe someday, someone will invent a way for men to produce milk through their penis and we can more accurately test your theory. I don't think the prudes in this country would be able to handle it though.

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      Oztinatoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Historically women are disproprtionately gay ie entire tribes on Lesbos and also sth amrca.
      Lesbians dont like men but enjoy phallic objects

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      jlparkposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Again, where is yr info from? You are making statements without providing backing.
      Also - lesbians don't hate men, they're just not attracted to them. Also lesbians don't necessarily like phallac objects at all. Again - sources?

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      Oztinatoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      PS in most cultures semen is called milk.
      I did not say lesbians "hate" men.
      History of gay: see wiki

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      jlparkposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      You said lesbians don't like men, ok...so not hate. But it's not that they don't like them, they do. They just aren't attracted to them. What culture is it called "milk?"

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      Oztinatoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      By "like" it is obvious I meant sexually.
      Milk: china, india, ancient myths and even modern day vernacular.
      A babys bottle is very phallic

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      jlparkposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Thats not the way it sounded. And are you lesbian? If not, how would you know exactly what all/most lesbians like and do not, in relation to phallic objects?

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      Oztinatoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Jplk
      This topic is in the context of sexuality therefore you took it out of context.
      Many lesbians use dildos and also affect male fashion etc. Who is going to argue against that?

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      jlparkposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      You state "Lesbians don't like men but enjoy phallic objects" - no, not all lesbians do. Yet your statement makes the assumption they ALL do. Nor do all lesbians wear male clothing (most don't!). Who's going to argue? Those who aren't as you say.

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      Oztinatoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      No I am saying it is possible BOTTLE FED lesbian girls may or may not tend to use phallic objects.
      These statements are all abbreviated

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       jlparkposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       Then may I suggest you write a hub - there you can lay it all out in one non abbrev. place. Let me know and I'll give it a read

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       Oztinatoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       Jlpk
       too busy with work.

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