Is totally empty space a non physical phenomena?

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   Oztinatoposted 10 years ago

   Is totally empty space a non physical phenomena?
   
   I just had an odd conversation on HP in regards to the impossibility of proving that a non physical phenomena can be believed in. This was in reference to God being non physical hence impossible to prove.

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   cjhunsingerposted 10 years ago

   One would have to prove, at least theoretically, the existence of empty space or nothingness. This accomplishment is not yet within our reach and it is quite possible that nothingness, just does not exist.
   You can believe anything though. You can believe a goat is a cow or that life is only an illusion. If you wish to believe in a being who lacks substance, then for you it is true, but at the same time your belief lacks truth.

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      Oztinatoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      The whole point is that we of course know empty space exists without being able to prove it as it is a truism.

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      cjhunsingerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Oztinato
      No, of course, you do not know that nothingness exists. You believe it exists.
      What does 'empty space' mean? Please define.

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      Oztinatoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      The question is: is it non physical.
      Other discussion is beyond the scope of this question page.

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      MindingReasonposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      The question is not beyond the scope of the question page if the question begs an answer to it before it can be addressed. How can anyone say anything about whether or not "empty space" is physical if we don't even know what empty space is?

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      Oztinatoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I am saying empty space is real and non physical. Also time, math etc

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   Paul K Francisposted 10 years ago

   I do not know the details, but these days physicists believe that, at the quantum level, empty space is impossible; virtual particles come in and out of existence for very, very short lengths of time. This is about as close to nothingness as you can get.

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      Oztinatoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Of necessity any particle is "housed" in empty non physical space.

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   goatfuryposted 10 years ago

   "Empty space" really isn't empty at all.  I'm sure you're aware of the "quantum foam" that permeates all of spacetime, but it's worth doing some reading (and maybe writing) about.

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      Oztinatoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I am aware of certain theories: but are they describing "non physical" phenomena.

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      revolutionbjjposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      "Non physical" phenomena might also be called "not real."

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      Oztinatoposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      But empty space is real. So is gravity and math and time etc

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