Why do some people detest socioeconomic wealth so much, even contending that suc

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   gmwilliamsposted 7 years ago

   Why do some people detest socioeconomic wealth so much, even contending that such
   
   wealth is abhorrent?   Why is socioeconomic wealth so demonized?  Is this demonization of socioeconomic wealth have a basis in envy?
   
   

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   Wesman Todd Shawposted 7 years ago

   In the Secret Societies speech, by John F. Kennedy, he talks about a vast international conspiracy who relied upon covet means to push its agenda. That's all socialism and communism ever are - covetousness.
   
   Literally, my only source of income right now is writing. Well, I'd much rather be poor than one of those horrible people who spend all day hating everyone who's got more money than them.

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      Jessie L Watsonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Agreed. Communists don't care about the poor, they just hate the rich...and fail to realize that most rich people work 60+ hours a week and sacrifice quite a lot. Everyone assumes that CEO's got where there are from bullying others. Ridiculous.

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      gmwilliamsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      @Jessie, remember elementary school where some kids hate A students & love the dumb student.This has advanced to adulthood where the rich are reviled because they have superb skillsets + work ethics. People FAIL to realize this but insist on HATI

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      Jessie L Watsonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      @Grace What a concept!?! lol Except the best predictor of long term success is indeed intelligence and work-ethic. But its never a guarantee for anyone.

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   ptosisposted 7 years ago

   
   
   I'll answer your question with a question; Why Americans hate the poor and worship the rich?
   
   People still cling to the belief that all rich people deserve their wealth and all poor people deserve their poverty.  Those who consider poor folks as social parasites will find that their taxes towards the social net is on average $6/year yet pay $6,000 towards corporate welfare.
   
   The RICH don't need it yet want it ALL, they don't sue in court, they pay to have policy change.  If your government believes that the best way to eradicate trillions of dollars of debt is to spend trillions more, you live in a country run by idiots.
   
   Solntsevskaya Bratva has installed their man in the White House who is about to shakedown not only you , but your children and grandchildren until land-tied serfs. 
   
   You should be outraged. Why aren't you outraged? 
   
   DO you like being rolled over?

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      gmwilliamsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Jealous much.You HATE the rich & people who are successful. So you would rather be poor & struggling, living from hand to elbow than to live a cultivated life like a civilized human being. The RICH are the A students-the POOR are the F studen

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      Wesman Todd Shawposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I think the Ptosis person (me being unsure of the pronouns) assumes that they've the ability to discern and decide who deserves what.
      
      That's rich. That's epic. Ptosis knows who deserves what, and should preside over all. Then 'need.' even richer.

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      Jessie L Watsonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Attitude makes all the difference. Strong and successful people accept life as it is and try their best until they're dead. It's a good bet. Better than a conspiratorial power struggle. Get out there and fight with honor. What else is there to do?

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      gmwilliamsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Gentlemen, Ptosis is a hater of the wealthy & successful.  Ptosis is of the school that rich is evil while poor is noble.  Ptosis has an INVERSE logic which states that struggle is good while affluence/success is bad. As I stated, JEALOUS MUCH!

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   gmwilliamsposted 7 years ago

   
   
   The underlying reason is envy, pure envy.  The masses lead mediocre lives of socioeconomic semi-struggle.  Most are not successful in an iota.  They are middling socioeconomically.  In their purview, people who are wealthy are corrupt, materialistic, & other negative things.  They are the ones who were programmed by their parents & other authority figures not to have high goals because they were inculcated w/the premise that to have high goals are unrealistic, delving into the utter fantastical.  They were further brainwashed to be comfortable & to "know their place" in the societal scheme of things.  They were indoctrinated in the paradigm that they are just average nobodies & average nobodies should never strive outside their respective station .
   
   Some were trained in the religious paradigm that wealth is somehow evil & they should never strive to be wealthy.  Another subcategory of this religious inculcation is to be wealthy is an exhibition of G-R-E-E-D.  Then there a few who were taught that wealth will "corrupt" them, causing them to become conceited & thinking that they are superior to others.
   
   Most people hate the wealthy because the wealthy are living lives that the former wish they could live.  The wealthy have financial freedom to live life beyond the rudiments & a few luxuries.  They live in the best neighborhoods, eat superior quality food, have great medical care, & can send their children to the best schools.  They also have a generational legacy which most people don't have.   
   
   Furthermore, subconsciously most people hate, even demonize the wealthy because they wish THEY were wealthy.  They want to live a lifestyle free of financial worry & want.  Most people know that they are 1/2 to 1 paycheck away from poverty/penury & homelessness.  If anyone happens to them financially, they would be at the socioeconomic bottom.  Wealthy people, on the other hand, are PAYCHECKS away from poverty/penury & homelessness.  The latter don't ever have to worry about becoming poor or homeless while the majority do & that is why the majority hate the wealthy.  They are in a quite precariously perilous situation while the wealthy.......AREN'T.

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   Jessie L Watsonposted 7 years ago

   I think there needs to be a conversation about how people define success for themselves. Success is often construed as the acquisition of material means. Some of us who live meagerly do so because we've settled into a set of circumstances that we have defined as valuable for ourselves. What people should strive for is putting oneself together the best one can. We feel good when we hit the goals we wish to reach, when things turn out the way we plan them, and when we overcome challenges within our zone of proximal development. Be it physical, mental, occupational, etc. We define the parameters of our growth for ourselves.
   
   People who are very well organized and smart end up skyrocketing in certain positions in life. This is what's referred to as Prices Law....The square root of any given group of people in a working environment do half the work. So 3 out of 10 people in a business are making the most difference. It would be helpful to identify what makes them so productive and valuable. It's certainly not resentment and bitterness....It has something to do with their belief system and application of their skills. You can't be one of these people if you just say "well the game is rigged so why bother?". The existence of resistance does not prove that there is tyranny. It only proves that life is more complicated than what you presumed and it requires more time and effort for you to be able to harmonize with it.
   
   So if you can finally accept that being rich and wealthy is just one standard of success, then you have to plan out your life according to what you value. The poorest people in this country may as well be the richest compared to poor standards throughout history. Even the poorest people in this country don't need to worry too much about infectious diseases, famine and actual homelessness. We see the poorest people walking about with smart phones. How is that? Which brings me to my next point....
   
   Gratitude. Be thankful that you live in the 21st century. We have an incredible infrastructure and advanced medicine. Beyond that we have so many services for those who are disadvantaged. Churches can also do amazing things for a community but everyone is so skiddish of religion anymore...And then maybe at some point you can think about becoming part of the systems that serve other people.
   
   We're losing our sense of what it means to live in a fulfilled way.

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   PeterStipposted 7 years ago

   Social-economic wealth is one of the most important aspects in a healthy society.
   Not everybody is born rich, and not everybody has the intellect or physical conditions or background to get along in the society. Every healthy society should take care of the people who can't cope for whatever reason.
   In a way it's very simple seen from a healthy capitalistic point of few. It's like the economics of Ford. Who paid his workers enough so they could afford to buy a Ford. (or so I was told.)
   If the social welfare of a country is not good, and the poor can hardly pay their basic things like healthcare, food and a roof then you have a big problem.
   In a good economic system people buy stuff. And that's why it's better to give people who are poor money. So the can spent it and be part of the economic system. Study and educate themselves to become even a better part of the system and generate money on their part.
   Poor people can't buy the newest smart phone or car. They consume less. And if there are to many poor people the economy will stop. Even if you have 200 billionaires. They can only buy 3 cars, but that won't save the car industry.
   Social-economic wealth is a must. Capitalism needs a social system. Free market capitalism is a dead end which led to a huge split between the haves and the have not end this system has to collapse in the end.

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      Jessie L Watsonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Let me point out that the majority of the lower class actually doesn't struggle with food or shelter. Historically speaking, the lower class has about as much as the middle-class from the 1970's.

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      PeterStipposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I wasn't talking about the US but about capitalism in general. It benefits all to help the poor. But talking about the US, I just read today that the America's homeless population rises for the first time since the Great Recession.

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      Jessie L Watsonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I'd be interested to see the source on that. Not that I'm skeptical but because I like to draw my own conclusions.

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      PeterStipposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I read it in the Guardian. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 … unt-crisis

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      Jessie L Watsonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Yep. That's quite an increase. 350,000 more since 2008. But it's also worth considering what keeps people homeless. What percentage of those are actually related to economic stress and not health issues? It's never so cut and dry.

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      gregasposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      The other thing that could contribute to the increase of homeless during that period is the larger than usual influx of immigrants, both legal and illegal. Just a thought.

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      Jessie L Watsonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      @Greg, explain.

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      PeterStipposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      No, its never quite black and white. The huricanes could also be part of it. Nevertheless, its an increasing problem that should be dealt with.
      And yes @Greg explain your thoughts.

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