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Do you want to help or hurt the planet

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    pburgerposted 7 years ago

    Does anybody 'want' to hurt the planet?

    1. PrettyPanther profile image84
      PrettyPantherposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Unlikely, however, there are plenty who "want" to make money and don't care if the planet is hurt in the process.

      1. Daniel Carter profile image88
        Daniel Carterposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Bingo. Pass Go and collect $200. You just won at both games.

        I agree entirely. No one wants to really hurt the planet (I think) but temporarily hurting it for the sake of greed is acceptable, because most people don't follow through the consequences of their actions. They only see the opportunity of "now" and therefore seize it.

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          pburgerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Hi Daniel,

          Short of a revolution to overthrow capitalism - what do we do about the state of the planet?

          1. Rochelle Frank profile image88
            Rochelle Frankposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Individuals can do very little alone, but millions of individuals -- including capitalists- can do a lot by using less plasic, recycling, etc.

            I am glad to see that some large, capitalistic companies are starting to appeal to their customers by using greener methods of producing, packaging and processing their products.

            I am ALL in favor of using very minimal processed food and other products, but the only way that less fuel will be used (and less trash produced)-- is to get big  capitalist business behind those concepts. Let them know you support them when they are making good choices.

            I'm not at all against capitalism-- but I am for influencing
            the big capitalists to realize that people support any efforts to stop trash and pollution.

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              pburgerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              I cannot rest on 'influence' alone, not while conservative politicians influence the political outcomes to retard the efforts to address the state of the planet.

              I think too many people deny the situation and for me that simply perpetuates the problem. And the passing on of production costs associated with clean technology simply shifts the burden of responsibility.

              With extreme overpopulation and degradation of the biosphere, I cannot see how we can continue the exploitation of the planet according to an economic system designed for a social reality that no longer exists....

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        pburgerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Hi Pretty Panther

        Do enough people want to help the planet?

        1. PrettyPanther profile image84
          PrettyPantherposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          I think that if you asked pretty much anyone if they wanted to help the planet, they would say "yes."  The real question should be "what would you sacrifice in the way of time, money, convenience, etc. in order to help the planet?"

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            pburgerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Do you think most people are prepared to sacrifice enough to help the planet?

        2. I am DB Cooper profile image73
          I am DB Cooperposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Probably not enough right now. This planet will be saved when (or if) it becomes profitable to do things that help the planet. Right now most people see helping the planet as a sacrifice of their money or free time.

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            pburgerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Do you think we should apply a monetary measure to everything? Isn't that the essence of capitalism? And didn't that approach get us into this situation?

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      leebertteaposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I think what people want is to survive. We aren't any different than any of the other animals that share our world, except we have the ability to recognize our impact and to feel empathy for the less fortunate. The bottom line is we're still driven by the same biology, survival and propagating our species. In those pursuits we tend not to focus on mankind in general so there isn't a conscious effort to do harm to the planet but to obtain great wealth in order to attract the most desirable mates is of primary importance.

    3. qwark profile image61
      qwarkposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Burger:
      Pls tell me how man can "hurt" the planet?
      The earth has experienced far greater catastrophes than man could dream of creating, and she's still here and doing well.
      She'll be here long after we humans have bitten the dust.
      I said once that you asked a "silly" question. You have just asked another one. I'm just being "candidly" honest.
      Being "politically correct," is not my bag....:-)

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        pburgerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        You are entitled your opinion.

        But I think, from reading what other people post, that my question is not 'silly'... And, if you look through the other thread where indeed you make your comment that I ask a 'silly question' you will also find a great deal of discussion around my 'silly question'.

        And within those discussion you find that another hubber insisted that I should ask this question of myself. So here I am asking the question in the public domain.

        One hubber's 'silly question' is another hubber's thread

      2. PrettyPanther profile image84
        PrettyPantherposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Just become something survives does not mean it hasn't been hurt.  This is not a silly question.  Perhaps it could have been phrased differently, but the rest of us know what was meant by it.

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          pburgerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Hang on there, Pretty Panther
          Qwark has yet to anoint you
          So, officially, I'm the silly one here tongue

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        pburgerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        WARK!

        'Tell me' why you think 'man', but not woman, does not hurt the planet; 'tell me' how the recent spate of oil spills is not a form of damage to the ecosystem?

  2. ns1209 profile image41
    ns1209posted 7 years ago

    I doubt there are many people that want to hurt the planet just most people are selfish and greedy and we would not spend a lot more if something was green - including me!  However if something is free and helps like recycling I try and do that!

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      pburgerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      WOW!  'Most people are selfish and greedy?' That's something of a generalization, given we have a global population of how many billions? Is it greedy or ignorance? Or simply ambivalence?

  3. ediggity profile image59
    ediggityposted 7 years ago

    I kick dirt, and punch trees daily.  I never really thought I was intentionally hurting the planet though.  Thanks for making me feel bad.

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      pburgerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I asked a question.

      If you answer that question and take your answer to heart how do I 'make you feel bad'?

      Surely, you made yourself feel bad....

      1. ediggity profile image59
        ediggityposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        Because I never really thought about it until you asked.  Thanks for making me feel worse.

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          pburgerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Don't blame me for how you feel. It is not my FAULT that a question you choose to answer make you think about yourself. JFC!

          1. ediggity profile image59
            ediggityposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Hey, you brought it up.  If you didn't I'd still be fine.  Way to rub it in.

            1. Cagsil profile image60
              Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              And, if you didn't waste your own effort to reply to the question, then you wouldn't have a problem. hmm

              1. ediggity profile image59
                ediggityposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                I don't have a problem.  I don't believe I was conversing with you either.

                1. Cagsil profile image60
                  Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  That is irrelevant in a public forum thread. But, have a great day!

                  1. ediggity profile image59
                    ediggityposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                    More news from the peanut gallery.  What a surprise yawn zzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz.

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              pburgerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              LMAFO - What happened to taking responsibility for your own state of being?

              1. ediggity profile image59
                ediggityposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                I'm American, when did taking responsibility for my actions become a requirement?

                1. Cagsil profile image60
                  Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  roll

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                  pburgerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  LMAFO!

                  That's a prerogative limited to an American?

                  OMG - you mean these conservative politicians down-under are Americans in disguise? No wonder I can't understand them...

  4. Origin profile image59
    Originposted 7 years ago

    I don't want to hurt the planet. I've always wanted to create some type of mystical grove, something serene and different. big_smile

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      pburgerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Cool cool

      How's your grove growing going? Can you share something with us?

  5. qwark profile image61
    qwarkposted 7 years ago

    silly questions and silly responses...tsk tsk

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      pburgerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Yeah, silly us! I like being silly big_smile Better to be silly than blind and turgid.

      And if this thread is so silly, why spend time posting here? roll

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      pburgerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Look Mum, wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee big_smile

      Don't be so silly son! roll

      Awwww maaaaaa! tongue

  6. Cagsil profile image60
    Cagsilposted 7 years ago

    Nice to see you know how to twist things to not being your fault.

    You are not any better than the politicians who are in power in America. Then again, there are others just like you, who enjoy twisting other people words, so as to suit themselves.

    What a waste of breath! hmm

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      kimberlyslyricsposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      big_smile

    2. ediggity profile image59
      ediggityposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      Like a politician?  Seems like you poke your nose where it doesn't belong, and try to stir things up pot.  I haven't twisted anyone's words, and if you can't tell from my original comment that it was a joke that's not my fault.  Like I was trying to say.  It was a pants shirt conversation, so put a sock in it.  I hope you get that breath back, please don't waste it on me.

      1. Cagsil profile image60
        Cagsilposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        And, apparently you cannot even grasp the concept that you are wrong. Enough said. It was you who was wasting their breath. DUH!

        1. ediggity profile image59
          ediggityposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Whatever you have to say to make yourself feel better.  Keep digging....

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        pburgerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

        It was a joke? I fail to see irony or humor in your replies - But I'll take your word for it - I stand corrected - HAH HAH HAH Big laugh guffaw guffaw.

        How bad do I MAKE YOU FEEL big_smile

        I hope you feel so bad you decide to swill a pint of Southwark bitter ale roll

        1. ediggity profile image59
          ediggityposted 7 years ago in reply to this

          Yeah, it was a joke.  I don't really kick dirt and punch trees every day.  You make me feel like I hurt the planet.  I've never had love juice.  I might give it a try, do they sell it at Ralphs?

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            pburgerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

            Yoh ediggity Yoh smile
            smile Love juice?
            What's that?
            Ralphs?
            Whats that?
            roll
            Not everybody lives in your corner of the public domain big_smile
            lol You got any more subtle jokes over there buddy? lol

            1. ediggity profile image59
              ediggityposted 7 years ago in reply to this

              Yeah, what do you call cheese that's not yours?

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                pburgerposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                I would call cheese that's not mine 'your cheese'

                1. ediggity profile image59
                  ediggityposted 7 years ago in reply to this

                  Nacho Cheese, welcome to America.

  7. ediggity profile image59
    ediggityposted 7 years ago

    cool

 
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