Someone please explain?

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   Cagsilposted 11 years ago

   Hey everyone,
   
   I have a question and maybe it might rack a few brain cells.
   
   Is choice evil?
   
   Have fun with it.

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      Repairguy47posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Is choice evil?
      
      
      No! Didn't have much fun.

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         Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I didn't expect many to have fun with it. That statement was made in sarcasm.

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      Ann1Az2posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Yes and no. It depends on what you are making the choice about. If the choice is between right and wrong, and you choose wrong, the choice could be evil. If you choose right, the choice could be good.

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         Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         And how do you tell right from wrong?

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            logic,commonsenseposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            It is an inate thing.  You know without knowing.

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               Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Some would say that yes.

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            Ann1Az2posted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Right and wrong as defined by worldly standards or right and wrong by Godly standards? Because what's considered right in man's eyes may not be from God's point of view. However, anything the devil wants you to do is definitely wrong, both by men's standards (if they'd admit it) and by God's.

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               Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Keep G/god out of this conversation. This isn't a religious topic. But, thank you.

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                  Ann1Az2posted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  I'm out of the conversation. Thank you.

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      Reality Bytesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      All depends on the definition of evil.

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         Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Yeah, that much was figured. Many people have different perceptions of what is 'evil' and what is not.

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      jacharlessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Yes.
      Choice is the involuntary [re]action called reason, that is adverse or opposed to the betterment of the individual -or better stated, the true nature of the individual.
      Choice is necessity or necessitative, therefore lacking complete illumination or understanding. This is the actual definition of evil -the lack of complete illumination/understanding.
      
      James

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         Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Interesting statement James.

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            jacharlessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Apparently so interesting, it scared the bjinga's out of respondents.

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               Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               I don't think so. I do think that many wouldn't bother with it because of the category I put it in.

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      leroy64posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Can one exist without the other?

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         Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Answering a question with a question. A common approach. I would say that yes one would be able to exist without the other. Having said that, I'm sure there will be plenty of people to disagree and/or agree. Almost everyone has a different perception, which is derived from the knowledge gain and turned to wisdom, and not everyone has the same amount of knowledge gained nor do they possess the same amount of wisdom as others(both are going to be varied).

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            Mighty Momposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Slightly off topic, but veering into the "have fun with it" instruction.
            Recently watched (for the 100th time) "Master and Commander."
            There is a delightful scene in which Captain Jack and the officers are eating and drinking and making merry below decks.
            Captain Jack turns to his learned friend the ship's doctor and asks him to make a scientific judgment about two small worms advancing toward a baked good on his plate.
            The good doctor sizes them both up and pronounces the bigger, fatter, faster worm superior.
            Barely containing himself,Captain Jack, engendering a groan and a hearty laugh from everyone at the table, corrects the doctor's appraisal with his own learned opinion that, in circumstances such as these, it is always wisest to pick the .........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
            lesser of two weevils.
            

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               Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               

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            leroy64posted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I will take a stab at working through this.
            
            Should choice then be an action? 
            
            Use it in a sentence.  "He made a choice. He has a choice to make."  I am willing to go with choice as an action.
            
            Hypothesis: That suggests free will.
            A choice between evil and what?
            A choice between evil and good?  Good is not a part of the question.
            A choice between two evils?  Limited options suggest a lack of free will and then:  What is the point of defining evil?. 
            A choice of infinite possibilities?  Move forward with this.
            Then the nature of the choice would imply the nature of the person choosing, based on another observer's (society?) definition of evil. 
            I would say choice may be a sign pointing to the nature of the person choosing, but choice is not evil in itself.
            
            How did I do?  Don't hold back.

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               Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Okay.

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   knolyourselfposted 11 years ago

   Evil can only result from choice, as the right man's burden.

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      Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Interesting statement.

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   innersmiffposted 11 years ago

   If we're talking about the debate about a soldier taking orders - a solider acting an order is still making a choice, and whether that action is legal or not has no bearing on whether it is moral. The killing of Jews was legal under Nazi law, but most would consider it immoral. If someone physically does not have a choice, then no, the action can not be moral nor immoral.

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      Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Actually, this doesn't have anything to do with that conversation.
      
      This is in the Education and Science- Philosophy category
      Someone always has two choices. Do or Do nothing. All actions are tied to morals.

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   WretchedRaptureposted 11 years ago

   Choice is not evil, but choices can be.

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      Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Who, How, What decides the choice is evil?

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   Shadesbreathposted 11 years ago

   Well, if you want to have fun, use rephrase the question using the word choice in the context of abortion. Then you can get a bunch of people to call it evil.
   
   That's when language gets fun. Half (I'm being generous with percentages here) of the people will say, "choice" is evil, and the other half will say "choice" is enlightenment.
   
   Fun for everyone!

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      Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      What's up Shades? Always nice to see you haunting the forums. I take it you're already on your second or third by now. So in a couple of hours you might actually be in perfect form for some real fun?
      
      But, yes you are correct. I'm positive if I changed the context of what choice had to be made, then I would have a bunch of people telling me all about how they feel.
      
      But then again, I didn't put this in the political or religious forums, so I guess it's unlikely to get the "fundies" to come out and actually think for a change.

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   Mighty Momposted 11 years ago

   How can we tell right from wrong?
   Some would argue that if you have to think about it, you're already wrong.
   

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      Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I'm sure some would Mighty Mom.

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   mikelongposted 11 years ago

   "Right" and "wrong" are simply subjective standards that we all use. Over the course of our lives we will find things that we viewed as either perhaps being viewed differently.
   
   I know I have reached that point several times.
   
   Choice, in and of itself, simply is... "Right" or "wrong" are simply labels that can be placed on choice itself, or the choice selected, depending on the person viewing it.
   
   Even using the "God's Standards" or "Worldy Standards" titles are flawed, for these are by no means universal. Christians as a whole can't figure out what "Christianity" is, or who "Christians" even are. They've been fighting for two thousand years and still can't come to consensus...
   
   In terms of Islam, there are four distinctive schools of thought, with contradictions amongst them, and then there are Sufi's with another set of ideas altogether...all competing and fighting with one another...
   
   I don't see consensus anywhere..

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      Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you Mike.

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   endless seaposted 11 years ago

   It is based on what choice you make and what are the criteria of your "Evil". People have different ways to see evil, and then you combine choices with it its even more random a question with no fix answer the answer can be no or yes based of choice person makes..Giving some one right of choice is not an evil that much I can say

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      Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Okay. Thank you.

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   Disturbiaposted 11 years ago

   LOL, I can tell it's been a long day already because I thought you were asking if evil was a choice. This is a good one and I'm having lots of fun with it Cags. I think choice is freedom. Is freedom evil?

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      Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Some might think so. And from what a lot of other people think, apparently they would be wrong.

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