Why do women always think that there right and a mans wrong?
LMAO!!
(I thought of the same thing and was awfully tempted...). In all seriousness, of course women aren't "always" right on a lot of things. There are also, though, a lot of men can't possibly believe that there's a lot of things women actually do know better than they, so if the woman isn't willing to back down and just say that he's right (when she's knows he's not), he'll still believe she "can't possibly know better" and "just needs to think she's right". 
(lawrencebeach2010, I hope this doesn't have anything to do with that kidney-stone thread you started, and that I was involved with. )
strange...never met such women...
*nothing like opening up a can of worms with your opening post*
It can be said it goes both ways, which actually makes it difficult for compromise.Lawrence,
We think we are always right...because we always are
We think that men are always wrong...because you always are
....... it's that simple, so men need to accept that and the world will be a happier placeI don't know what kind of women you've been hanging out with, because most don't see men as "dogs to train". Having said that, though, I'd agree with you that there are overbearing women (just as there are overbearing men) who are wrong about one thing or another (or a lot of things) and are not willing to double-check (even research) their own belief about something in order to make sure they're not misguided about it.
As for me, I actually enjoy being proven wrong (or discovering I've been wrong) - but that's because it happens so infrequently that it's kind of fun and new. (Sorry. I couldn't resist... )
It is an Evolutionary mechanism, a tactic of nature, to drive us men out of the home and back into the wild to find another mate... that way we can perpetuate the human race more efficiently.
TM, it humors me that you are sighting anything to do with evolution and man... Just saying...
- Sherlock221bposted 13 years ago
0 Does it make me always right to say that you're using "there' instead of "they're" and even though it is a common mistake...it bugs me?
Hi! I'm Lisa. And i'm always right.No. That's the kind of word-twisting a lot of people often do
. It should be, "Hi, I'm Lisa. I'm most often right."
I went looking to see if I did the they're/their/there thing somewhere, but I couldn't find it. If I did it, it's because I'm one of those people who do that one and the old "you're/your" one because my fingers type what I hear in my head, and I have a Boston accent even in my head. Anyway, if I was the one who did it, I didn't say I was mostly always typing error free - only right.
Well, i don't know...I've been told I'm pretty good at flatulence......and I can shoot a fly off your shoulder from 300 meters....
Habee,women are also good at flatulence....
Yikes I think I chose the wrong thread..I almost got shot
Habee,
Your list is unfounded and insulting but is intentionally mitigated by including a bit of humor. Let's parse.
1) critical thinking skills - Wrong. Almost all great architects in any industry are men. From computers to architecture (both stone or otherwise).
2) multitasking - Wrong. Most project managers in the world are men. The most effective methods for multitasking (incremental approaches) were developed by men.
3) nurturing - Wrong. Really take a step back and think about our roles. Before the advent of the working class woman (which by the way in many cases is a luxury and not a necessity to avoid destitution -- women choose to pursue careers for personal fulfillment instead of lavishing the attention on children which is clearly natural), who provided the sustenance for the entire family -- men.
Now post-advent, women of all levels of desirability all seek "winners" for mates; i.e. now that women have started working, their expectations haven't gone down now that there two breadwinners as you would logically expect. Men who have great jobs AS A MANDATE, but now also AS MANDATES are chivalrous, are expected to sacrifice himself first to protect woman and child, are expected to be a bedrock of emotional support for his spouse and children (what woman would stay with a man who cried every night at her lap but plenty of men would do that for his spouse) and are expected to share in the house work. You see, the entire being of a man is centered on providing and keeping afloat his family. Men are the true nurturers of families.
4) patience - Wrong. Let's see how well a woman would handle trying to court a man who acts like most women do during this stage.
'Oh..she seemed interested, I'll wait 3 days to call her and then 4 days later I'll do the same. Don't call too soon, don't call too late. (3 weeks in and she stops returning his calls -- drop all that pain and animosity and try again with another. This is pure patience and wherewithal).
5) problem solving - This ties into critical thinking. If you're not good with critical thinking, you won't be with problem solving. So my response from item 1 applies here.
6) creativity - wrong. The greatest creative accomplishments all throughout history have been made by men. Literature (and yes there were aristocrat-esque women who were finely educated), cinema, acting, culinary arts (with exceptions on this point), sculpting, architecture, you name it, a man's most likely was at the forefronts.
7) maintaining their composure under stress - Wrong. Men have amazing control over their emotions. The ones that act out do it because they want to look good in front of women and unfortunately some men end up running with it. So why does it seem that men are more quick to anger? Because men and women don't treat men with the same delicacy as they do women; the "outbursts" are calculated and what he reckoned was appropriate for the situation.
Also, who ultimately encourages a pitting of men against men? It's women. Men have to prove themselves and sometimes, unfortunately, it gets to their brains and overwhelms all else.
8) finding shoes on sale - Wrong. lol I wanted to give you that one, but honestly the best bargainers are men. Women are more likely to find shoes on sale because they seek more often.
9) jumping to conclusions - True when it comes to finding a mate. Could go either way otherwise.
The weakness for most men is that they desire women, it's our greatest weakness, that we desire something that, like with anything else, is fickle and uncertain. Men who overcome this truly rise to the top.
I wish to share this with other men who read this so they can understand that the greatest strength of a woman is her ability to manipulate that natural desire. A woman is VERY good at cunning.
Truly strong women use that cunning for good to strengthen families and are ones that don't use it to bolster her own confidence.Gee, and people wonder why we still need feminism in 2016. You took what was clearly a joke using stereotypes and turned it into an essay on why men are superior and how a woman's greatest strength is being cunning.
You're kinda gross.
You also seem to be missing the very simple fact that it's still unfortunately pretty recently that women have started to gain equal rights and equal opportunities. Yammer on about how many great male figures history has boasted as long as you want, but women were at a great disadvantage for a lot of that.
I don't feel particularly qualified to say that men are better than women at anything or vice versa as often people have different strengths based on who they are as an individual, gender aside.
I realize this is an old post and you might not be around to respond but I couldn't bring myself leave it unchallenged. Because it was personally fulfilling for me to respond, even though I had to take a little break from my nightly cry.
BizGenGirl, this thread has been fun, but it's definitely been a matter of over-generalization. My "being-always-right" joke is one I've often had between me and my kids. They know it's a joke, but they've also seen that a good part of the I do turn out to be right.
In all seriousness, though, I think it's worth mentioning that some people are very reluctant to draw, or voice, conclusions without being absolutely positive that the conclusion is correct. I'm one of those. It's always been important to me, especially with my kids, that I be very careful about making what "I suspect" or "I think" clear, as opposed to telling them stuff as facts and running the risk of them seeing me as someone who's not always careful about facts.
My kids aside, even in social settings, I'm pretty careful about only piping up on subjects I have a solid knowledge of. If you think about it, that's kind of cop-out, but I'm not a fan of people being too quick to form conclusions or pipe off (as if they know everything there is to know about a subject) when they don't. One person may be able to go on and on (and be right) about gardening. (I keep quiet on that particular one, as well as whole world of other subjects on which I'll only say so much in a conversation.)
So, if a person is careful about being too vocal on subjects he's not strong in, and talks about the stuff he knows (and then, as in the case of mothers, if you throw in a few decades' worth of living in this world), the odds of being right (for whatever that's worth anyway) get better.
There are whole subjects in social settings that I'll just say I know nothing about and listen. Then there are some that I'll say what my opinions and beliefs are (as with politics), but there's no right and wrong in some of those discussions. Maybe the difference between some people and other people is that some people are more careful about having an opinion and believing it's an educated one than others are. On some things, sometimes both are right. Sometimes neither are right. Sometimes what's right for one is not right for the other. Either way, when it comes to facts, I think the person who knows more about the subject is more likely to be right, but can also back up what he says, or explain his reasoning, if necessary.
One of the biggest things I do (to the point of making others sometimes doubt me more than might be good) is to so often cushion what I say with stuff like, "I'm under the impression," or "I may be wrong, but...", or "It seems to me.." (etc. etc.) In spite of my jokes about being right, I'm actually a pretty cautious (sometimes too cautious) person when it comes "debating" or presenting stuff as facts. When and if I do present some debating/argument idea as fact, though, I'm not about to back down and come across (to some people) pretty confident. What the other person/people don't see, though, is all the stuff I won't say and all the discussions I'm careful to stay out of because I know I don't enough to offer much to the discussion. (So the real problem might be that people don't simply ask others why it is they think they're right, instead of just assuming they're being bull-headed when they won't back down. )
(This subject is one that's making me feel a Hub coming on
).
I don't think too many people would really ever even dare to say they're "always" right (unless they're joking or else have paranoid personality disorder, or something). What I think often happens, though, is that a person who believes s/he's right and won't back down is often assumed to be someone "who thinks he's always right" (when, really, maybe he isn't).
With the situation you mentioned about guys just "going with the program" and letting the other person feel she's convinced him she's right; separate from the motivations you mentioned, that's not really a fair way to operate (and, again, I mean completely separate from the motivation you mentioned).
It doesn't give the other person the chance to back up whatever the guy questions that she's said, or to explain her reasoning. In that scenario, the guy leads the other person to think she's made her point, and in the meantime, he's thinking she's some misguided person who doesn't know anything. Normal, emotionally balanced, women would rather someone respect them enough to ask them to back up or clarify whatever it is they've said, and be given the chance to do that before being automatically written off (and the argument left unresolved).
If you think about it (and, boy, I've been in this situation), it's not really a matter of "growing some spine". It's a perfect way to exert some control - not the other way around; because if the guy gives the woman the chance to back up what she's said (with reason, facts, clarifications, whatever), he runs the risk of being proven wrong. I know someone who actually once said, "I don't care even if I do realize the other person is wrong. I just pretend I don't see that, rather than admitting I see they're not wrong." I couldn't believe this guy would even admit this (or that anyone would be so insecure or full of pride that he wouldn't just acknowledge the other person had proven himself right).
There's a difference between "telling someone she's full of crap" and being willing to listen long enough and/or being willing to ask her to back up what she believes/says with reason and facts. The latter is respecting the other enough to expect what anyone should expect in a "debate" or disagreement. The former is not risking being proven wrong by someone thought of as "full of crap".
I've been in that situation, and I'll you - I didn't see someone who was "waiting to be henpecked". I saw someone who wasn't willing to listen to reason and facts. Believe me, that's not the way to win someone's affection (or whatever you want to call it), and it's not the way to win the other person's respect either.
Jonathan, I do tend to view things from the perspective of mature relationships, so I can see what you're saying. I know, too, there are people who are just too confident and haven't ever been expected to do more than just "announce" things, according to them.
I don't have the background to be diagnosing anybody, but I do know that personality disorder can include a lot of confidence without any foundation behind it.
Anyway, as far as staying with your position goes: You're right. (See? I don't have a problem with that. 
) But seriously, I better understand your points now.
The one reason I may have found this thread as worth discussing over the last several hours (besides my having a lazy day today), is that as recently as - like - a week ago, I was shocked to discover yet one more example of a communication problem (between me and my ex-husband, with whom I remain close friends). It wasn't a fight or argument either. It was just a matter of his having assumed I was "coming from one place" and my motivations being completely different from what he'd assumed. Over time, I've become increasingly aware of how extreme communications problems can be between all kinds of people. A person could write a whole encyclopedia's worth of all the communications problems that can go on. So anyway, I don't really mean to "over-serious" a simple forum discussion, but I do think that whole right/wrong kind of misunderstandings/misinterpretations thing is one worth discussing.
All that aside, I do think you hit the nail on the head about people not having been denied anything (or else people who were never told they were wrong as kids).
- Stevennix2001posted 13 years ago0
@consentino and Diane Inside
I'm sorry to hear how your husbands treat you both. That's really horrible if you ask me. - Stevennix2001posted 13 years ago0
Your welcome. Besides, what are friends for right? I hope you feel better soon though.
- klarawieckposted 13 years ago0
Why is it that women are always right?
Because we are the only ones that think with the head that has the BRAIN!
Now Lawrence, try to rephrase what you wrote. Use punctuation and check your spelling. Are you thinking with your brain right now?
Lawrence, everyone here knows I never get mad. I was just playing with you.
Now, tell me... why would you reply to your own comment and ask yourself to remove yourself from the conversation?
We all love men, just the way they are. We wouldn't change it one bit.
- klarawieckposted 13 years ago0
Ease up, boys! Women rule the earth! That's why we call it MOTHER EARTH!
- Emile Rposted 13 years ago0
Having counseled a good number of couples, it has been my observation that this is not a myth. Women are always right. Always.
Of course, I am not a licensed marriage counselor, and the man is usually not involved in the conversation directly. But, I firmly believe the woman sharing the story of their marriage problems are giving unbiased testimony; so I have no reason not to agree.
Men, whatever you've done say you're sorry and admit you're wrong. It will come to that eventually so you might as well get it over with. Funny enough, I am not much of a talker. Yet, I do tend to talk in my sleep.
I spill out the beans ALWAYS!
a babbling woman, I'm sure!
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