I have noticed more and more Multi-Racial Marriages how does the affect the children and as well as do you think the different cultures clash?
Is it ethically right?
I am in a multi-racial marriage and it has not affected our son in anyway, nor do his friends look at him diferently. We have not had any issues with culture clash and our families have embraced the relationship. Have you read the history of why our skin color is what it is? We are all one people, so the skin color does not make one different from another.
Have we dealt with insults here in the U.S.? Once or twice but we have overcome by planting seeds. It is how you carry yourself and how you handle the situation. We so no color in our family, nor do many others as we should embrace people for who they are and not the color of there skin.
You'd be damned if you do and you'd be damned if you don't. People have a way of finding faults with everyone and everything. Since you can't keep everyone happy, hence, atleast try to keep one person and that is , You. Hang upside down with no khakis if you like! Who gives a sh** to what people think!
How is this an ethical issue?
Multi-Racial unions are very common in Australia. Love does not recognise race or religion. I have many friends who are mixed race and they've never had any problems. People are often intrigued by their cultural mix and they have the added exposure to 2 different cultures.
Most of my own relationships have been with men from different cultural backgrounds to myself. Our parents get over it because they don't have a choice.
What is racial? You must be talking about the biological feature which determines the visible, physical traits of a human; yet, we are all human. Yes, cultures can clash because since there are so many, and, some are sooo different from another, one may experience Xenophobia. What is ethical? Humane treatment of others??!
How is anything "ethnically right"? Love doesn't have a color. And the kids are not effected at all if both parents are respectful and open about their own culures. But if they are married, nine times out of ten they are respectful and open. The only problem they will have is the outside world judging them.
i don't even think it is a big deal, unless you live in the antebellum South.
I don't think any one person can speak for society "in general" or otherwise. I can only speak as one member of society and I honestly don't think about multi-racial relationships at all. Why should I? Who someone chooses to be with is certainly none of my business. They aren't hurting me. In this day and age, 2010, I really don't think I need to worry about their children, although I think white people are probably more accepting. It's fairly common. I illustrate my feelings on the subject as follows:
If there is a white man on one operating table, a black man on another operating table, and a mexican, an asian, and an Eskimo on operating tables around the room and you cut open the chesk of each man - their hearts will all be the same color. That makes me slightly color blind. Our world currently has bigger problems to worry about than skin color. Besides, in general, didn't this nation elect the son of not only a multi-racial, but a multi-cultural couple? I'm hearing a term lately that we are in a "post-racist" era. I would like to think that is true for most enlightened citizens.
Multiracial marriages do not affect the children, but racist views said to the children, or in their presence, can affect them. So, the damage is often done by others.
Different cultures may or may not clash depending on their values, belief systems, etc. If the husband is of a culture that promotes polygamy, and his wife is a red-bloodied American, there will be BIG problems if they have not settled their views and agreed.
Is it ethically right? Are there mixed marriages in the Bible? Yes, and God did not frown upon them. Moses' sister Miriam was punished with leprosy because she criticized his wife because of her dark complexion. Song of Solom is a metaphorical poem that compares the Christian's relationship with Jesus to that of two lovers. At one point the man says, "Do not look upon me because I am dark . . . I am dark but comely." This may be almost a paraphrase.
I don't think America shows its prejudice toward the children of mixed marriages anymore, but I see prejudice when it comes to the couple.
Cultures do still clash. My son stands ready to marry a woman who is the product of an interracial relationship. She never knew the white side of her family because they were ashamed of her. But, her father raised her without regrets and without bitterness. She has family members who are less than pleased with the planned nuptials; but I don't know how we are going to evolve to a color blind society unless we just stop looking.
I'm a little confused by the question of ethics. What is ethically wrong with two humans falling in love and making a life together?
I really don't think Many Kids like Multi-Facial relationships!
It turns out multiracial people are the fastest growing demographic in the US now.
Society generally thinks the worst about people in my experience.
'Society' is interpreted by the 'beliefs' of those who seek to judge others against the insecurities of their own beliefs.
It is wonderful here in Ireland now that there we are multi ratial society to see some mixed marriages, why would they not work?????
Australia has many mixed marriages, there are 5 in my family alone!
For the most part Australians do not consider race to be important in any way, despite the recent headlines to the contrary.
Every country has racsim and related problems. To say "X country has no problem with racism" is as misleading as saying "Y country is racist!"
It's a human failing.
I did say for the most part.... Australians speak about 180 languages. We are all colors and races, and are one of the most successful countries in the world at living multi-culturally, so we may be a pretty "low racism" country.
All of that is even more true for the United States, yet many people are of the mistaken belief that the US has racial problems and their homeland does not.
I can remember my auntie being upset when her son married a Filipino girl. All was forgiven when the grandkids came along.
One of my friends, an African American, moved here because he was married to a white girl. He said he felt comfortable in that relationship in Australia, whereas it was impossible in the States.
Multi-racial relationships have been going on for hundreds if not thousands of years.
I am the daughter of a mixed marriage ,my parents were victims of rascism ,first by a Government and then society. They knew better . I know better . My sons know better.
I beleive thats the key , educate and support peace and harmony not separatism and rascism.
God dont care about the colour of your skin ,just the colour of your sin
oh and now I am New Zealander with mixed blood, blood that has rich history-Hawaiian ,Scottish, married to an American, and goodness knows what his ancestors got up too. lol
P.S What do you mean ethically right?
I think its ignorant to not understand that the whole human race is 'mixed' whether we like it or not.
In our family we have English, Italian, Spanish, Greek and Chinese.
I have heard it can be troublesome for the children, but only when people want to label the child and make them fit into a certain category. Likewise, I have never seen extra problems for the couple or the children. I have acquaintances who are Korean/White/Greek, Aborigine/White, Black/White, Native American/White/Hispanic, ...probably more.
This thread is right up my alley.
But for some reason "social politics" tell me, I have to check the "blackman's box", will filling out official papers.
My mom: mix-white and black
My dad: mix-black and white
Grandparents: mix-white and black
Grandparents: mix-black and white
My mom'ma's color is white.
My dad's is black.
Here's my only problem with the system. They need to have a special little box for mixed people.
They can title the box- COLORED.
I was feeling the same way while filing out paperwork for my son to get into school. He is black and philipino and I put black as ethnicity and they said that he would have to be bussed to another school.I went to the school district and changed it, the next day he was put into the school I originally signed him up for. I feel that they should have a box to put for biracial individuals. Since they don't acknowledge them that way then it makes it look as if it's a bad thing to children.
Don't you have a "mixed race black / white" option? We do here.
No. According to my government I'm just an ordinary black man. My grandmother is a nationalized Jew from Germany. But she's considered white. My mom looks white. Her skin is real fair. My skin is real fair. I look white, except for my hair. But I'm cataloged black. We are all cataloged black expect Grams.
It's no big deal though. It's all good. I've never had any problems. None of my family has had any real trouble with this or that. I don't feel a racist buzz in America today.
Maybe it is time to get rid of the box. Our President and my grandchildren would be happy with that.
Golly I thought we had grown out of this issue. Does someone still really believe there is a problem with being in love with someone outside of your race or culture? I thought we left that back with Vietnam and the Nixon era. How could anyone still have a problem?
I'm in a mixed-race relationship - I'm British (back for centuries, at least) and my other half is east European Jewish.
I don't see an ethical problem at all.
Is that why Obama is always described by American media etc as "black"? Here, he'd be "mixed race"
As far as I can tell nobody cares anymore, and why should they
I can't speak for other countries, but in the United States it seems to be a regional thing as far as what "society" thinks. Personally, I live in Wyoming and a HUGE percentage of relationships and families are multi-racial and no one thinks anything odd about it. However, apparently this isn't true all over the country. I've had a few people from other states ask me if particular couples ever got any flak for being from different ethnic backgrounds...to me, the concept that it's in some way strange is just bizarre, but some people still haven't gotten past their upbringing or wherever else their various biases have come from.
Even the Queen of England has German blood.
I cant think of any leader who doesnt have a mix or blend.
Actually isnt everyone mixed??
When you think about it ,very crazy question indeed.
The colored box option idea , why not just call make it M&M's lol
What does that make me now NA with a Jewish mother and Athiest father and NA original family we really don't care but there is lots love n help survive racism
you got it Dame S ,love is the answer
There is only one race -The Human Race
I think our education systems can be quite horrible with our children thats awful Kimanesha. I think there should be instant hefty fines for such blatant acts.
My boyfriend is Puerto Rican, and I am white. My family has no issue with it at all. We have had a few instances where strangers seem to have a problem with it. But screw em they're closed minded jerks! One time we went into a clothing store in the mall and a teenage girl said to her friend "He's too tan for her!" I was shocked and refused to believed she said it.
In general, I don't think society cares so much. Our children will be happy and healthy, that's all that matters.
We're happy, so screw everyone else!
People with open minds and a sense of humanity understand human relations go further than the color of skin. Relationships between race should no longer cause contempt or prejudice because we are intelligent, breathing, human persons with knowledge how wrong bias caused contempt and injustice...
It's a slap in the face to men when women of their race go with a man of a different race. Does anybody believe that the phenomenon of white women going after black men doesn't bother black women? Do you believe most Asian men are happy about so many Asian women/white men couples? I know for a fact, here in Philadelphia, that most Latino and black men get upset when they see one of their women with a white man. And vice versa for white men. I had a girlfriend who was Filipino/black/white, but she looked Hispanic. I got more dirty looks from black and Latino men than I care to remember.
I don't like white women dating outside their race, either. I consider it dating "down" and betraying their race.
This topic needed a different point of view, btw. Please, be civil with your replies and don't start with the derogatory names.
I guess it depends on where you live to some degree.
I had similar reactions when I lived in a small town in the Carolinas. I guess it is just important to care about your relationship and being happy more than what other people think. I don't think it is a slap in the face to white guys that I am dating a hispanic one. I fell in love with a guy who just happens to be hispanic. I've dated white guys, and I would date a black guy, asian guy, whatever. I'm definitely not dating "down", I am so lucky to have my boyfriend, I'm sure he could do better
It isn't up to 'men,' frankly. And didn't know there was any phenomenon of white women after black men--that might be a white guy fear, tho, .
People are people. This will be more and more a non-issue.
You know what? Tough. I'm going to start with the derogatory names you deserve. You are a racist dope and your post was one giant, steaming pile of crap. Nonsense like this doesn't deserve a pass and doesn't merit civility.
You talk about being civil in response. I suggest you reread your post, think about the words you wrote, and then try to write something substantial to the topic. I feel apathy that your relationship with another person of different race. If you love that person then why should it matter to you how others look at you??? Those people who might be looking oddly at you ARE the ones who have the issues.
I am a product of a beaner mother and a trailer trash father, I don't think its affected me one bit.
Colebabie Your picture is great. You two are very cute together.
I grew up in a mixed(many different races) middle class community. Teens and adults date who they want and nobody blinks an eye.
Thanks sunstreeks! We are pretty cute huh? That was our prom picture, four years ago
Yeah my town is the same, but when I used to live in a small town it was a bit different when he would come to visit. Not my college, but the surrounding town.
I will not call you names , that is not my style ,instead I will say shame on you !
What on earth would make you think that someone(white) is 'dating or marrying down'? (also the attitude when a girl marries 'up') also makes me feel nauseous to the pit of my stomach.
The dictionary defines Rascism as holding seperate views based on colour creed or race.
Women are not cattle or chattels to be paraded as prizes,how dare you be so arrogant. Who gave you that right?
Who taught you that it how a human should treat another human?
I am not better than you , you are not better than me.
If I got this wrong and misunderstood anything I opoligise ahead ,but if I didnt ...you need to be honest and rethink your attitudes...seriously
I tend to date people I like without regard to their race and have had several interracial relationships. I have to chuckle at the notion that I am "dating down" from my race as it infers that my race is somehow superior to another race. I believe we are all just people, and that seems to be a very difficult concept for many to understand. If someone intrigues me, regardless of race, I find myself attracted to them. It's worked out pretty well so far.
Maybe sexist objectification deserves its own thread.
I am in a multi-racial marriage, and I don't really think about it until I see stuff like this. Love knows no color, in my opinion. It shouldn't be an issue, but unfortunately it continues to be because people choose to be or are raised to be close-minded. That should be the social issue to address, not multi-racial relationshiops.
Not sure what you mean by mixed relationships, as in, are you talking about the race of couples or the colour of the couples skin?
I married a man from a different race. We have children and they are of mixed blood. For the best part and living in Australia, their racial backgrounds are invisible in this society.
I think acceptance of mixed relationships is becoming more accepted in society today, than what it was 30 years ago because people have learned and continue to learn tolerance. If we don't, then the blight of mixed relationship discussions from the past will follow our children into the future.
Non-white men who "score" a white woman never really love them. They look at it as more of winning a prize or biting the once "forbidden fruit" and getting over on the white man. I'm sorry if the truth offends anybody.
That's a stupid thing to say, and you are not the least bit sorry if it offends anybody.
It may be stupid to you because you disagree with me, but there's a lot of truth to it and that's what makes people uncomfortable. You're right, I really don't care who's offended, this is America and I can say what I want, no matter how politically incorrect.
Non-white men seek out white women because they know they're easier to control, dominate and manipulate than minority women. Plus, due to many white womens self esteem issues and "white guilt" it makes them easy "prey" for non-white men.
No, it's stupid because it assumes you can read the minds and hearts of people you don't know. It's also stupid because it is just an expression of your own prejudice. Racism is generally stupid.
I'm not sure where you are getting your info from. In my relationship, there is no way that I am easier to control or manipulate for that matter. I have no self esteem issues. I pursued my boyfriend. I kissed him, then he asked me out. So ha! His mother, an old fashioned puerto rican woman, will be the first one to tell you that I have him whipped
I don't think white women can be manipulated" or are "easier to control" than another race. Some people are just attracted to their own race (no problem in that) or another, or will date someone of any race. I'm attracted to hispanic guys, I grew up in South Florida, where that isn't strange. However, I have dated white guys, and would date another race as well.
Just get over your personal opinion, I'm not sure where it came from, maybe one experience you had, with one woman. But it definitely is not the norm, by any means.
Um... OK. You speak for all non-white men? I don't think so, at least what my experience (and it has been a while ago, but still) tells me.
I guess it depends, too, on your sphere of influence. I was going to go into class issues, earlier, but decided not to. I think Spike Lee actually said a lot of things best in some of his movies.
So my boyfriend of four years doesn't love me?? Damn that sucks
If I was his prize to be won, I think he would have moved on 3 years and 6 months ago because that's when he "had me". Just a thought.
Your logic is ridiculous.
LOL. And I broke up with mine--long ago.
You have valid points, but clearly they are not about EVERY one out there (thank God).
Finally, someone who knows the truth. And, obviously, it's not EVERY non-white male, just most. White women, in general, need to respect themselves more and develop some self worth.
I have total respect for myself. I'm hott, and smart and I know I'm a good person. And I'm lucky to be with a man who is just the same
Sounds like you have a personal problem to me!
Definitely. And more likely, somebody who just wants to be controversial...
Though yeah--there are a few points--but like I said, Spike Lee dealt with it much more intelligently. Complicated. Not to be handled w/ sound bytes.
Again, full of yourself. First sign of being insecure.
Something tells me that shooing away all the threatening 'white women' wouldn't improve your odds at all. You'd still be unattractive.
I think the white girls are trying to get away from the insecure and sexist attitudes of a some of the white boys lol geeze more power to them I say!
I don't think you are sorry. If you cared this discussion wouldn't exist. I find it both sexist and racist. Do you have metrics to support your comment above? My brother is in a relationship with a "white" girl and he adores her. They adore each other. Our peers (who are a mixed bag of nationalities) don't see this as "getting over on the white man". He doesn't see her as a conquest or "score". He was raised to respect women.
The truth is Urias, you haven't evolved.
You are not offensive; you are stating your opinion. If I did not know mixed couples, black men and white women, married to each other, professional, upper middle class, the black men breaking their necks for the white women, with two professional jobs, unlike they would ever do for a black woman, I would share your view too. My scope is wide, and I have seen much and cannot deny. There are cases as you have described too. There are black and white men who will date all, use women, discard them, and marry none.
I have seen white men use black women like tobacco and spit them out. We can stereotype any gender or races of people, or we can call a spade a spade..
I'm not sure you can ask "what does society think about multi-racial relationships" since each individual makes up our society. So what you're really asking is -"what do I think about multi-racial relationships" and the answer is- It should be accepted and it should be fine, but can we really say that in 2009 we have grown up that much from our ancestors and fully accepted others people views especially when they are different from ours and they look different than us. In today's society it is good to see people free and able to be with who they love, yet we still have to grow up and accept that all of us were created the same and the only real difference is our skin color. Cultures and habits are different also, yet they make each of us unique and we should want to share that with others.
Some of the comments I find here are absolutely immature and down right stupid. Dig up history and you will find tribes only married among themselves. As world grew closer countries, religion, caste, language became the neo-tribes.
Remember all of these countries, religion, caste, language, etc are man made. To me we are one race and it does not matter if people of different races marry.
Inter racial marriages having trouble due to cultural, racial, language differences is completely different thing.
Umm what do you mean by "finished"?? Marrying me, having a family with me, and then being with me forever?
He'll keep you as his "prize" and won't let you go, but when he's tired of you, he'll cheat on you with someone of his own race.
Sounds like someone used and abused you and it sounds like you deserved it.
Good luck with your racism.
Oh dear oh dear. Tell me you do not have a woman that is not the same color as you. And if you do - I guess you are just making the point. Oh well........
I'm not racist and I've been used, but not abused.
You know nothing of me. I've never been abused by a woman - ever.
Then you've never had a woman, because I don't know any self respecting woman who would put up with your BS.
How about a woman who shares my views? Just because somebody doesn't approve of interracial relaationships, it doesn't make them a bad person. It just means they have preferences. I'm actually very courteous and friendly to all people, unless they give me a reason not to be.
It is the reason you disapprove of interracial relationships that I find extremely offensive (and just plain wrong)
And whats more doesnt make any sense, at all?
Explain then why you consider dating a mixed, colored,native is dating down? for example. Or that dating a white girl is 'dating up?
Do you consider white people more superior? if you do why?
Yes it does.
Ok, here's a reason not to be: You are a racist POS.
I thought that you would have learned after your last experience. Your writing style gives you away.
Go straight to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200.
Oh ho ho ho ho ho...no, you're not trying too hard to compensate for something are you? Not too obvious. LOL. Take that @#$^ up with your shrink and stop being an *&$@#%$.
Oh geez. He's laughing right now, by the way. I'm too good in bed to cheat on, is his response. And he loves me, haha.
Wow and here I thought each person had their own mind and emotions. I didn't know that white people were the only ones that could have honest relationships. I didn't know that other races had one hive mind and none of them think for themselves.
Funny my oldest grandchild in going to be 11 in September and for some reason his parents are still together and yes he and his brother are mixed.
Am I the only one who believes that hate-filled words, and other forms of racism, regardless of color, do not persuade people to comply. It adds fuel to the fire and makes them aggravate the hater by working hard to continue the behaviors. If you tell a man that he should keep his hands off that Asia woman, he is going to work overtime to have an Asian by Christmas. So, haters need to work on their persuasive techniques. Those 1969 ones are not effective. I really think that you are wasting energy either way it goes. All of these mixed relationships are consequences of mistakes made in the past. Its a pandemic. The haters are helping to make it happen and do not even know it.
I dunno, its just a term. My boyfriend "has" me every night.
I "have" a great boyfriend. Its a word.
I'm not his property, and he is not mine, I'm sure that isn't what Mark meant.
He said it, not me. And a girl can be confident without being full of herself. But apparently you don't think so.
So you say women should have respect for themselves, and have some self worth? But the second one does, you call her cocky? Someone has an issue with women being strong.
No, I'm calling YOU cocky. You apparently have self worth and esteem issues.
No esteem issues here. I didn't mean to come off as cocky. You questioned the respect that I had for myself, so I stated some good qualities that I think about myself. As far as my boyfriend covering up for something, there is no reason to hide our relationship. But because he is a different race than me, you seem to think there is. Honestly, you're a man who believes women are inferior, you called "most" white women insecure if they date someone of another race. Obviously that respect and love you have for women needs fixing.
I stand by my view that White women who date outside their race are dating "down." This obviously means they have no respect for themselves.
Interracial relationships are a weird kink for people where the non-white male gets to "have" a White woman and the woman gets to be dominated which helps her deal with her white guilt. She thinks she's helping society by submitting to the non-white male, when all she is doing is lowering herself. A non-white male can never truly love a White female, but they can love the fact that they obtained a White woman in the war against the White man. He doesn't love you, he has lust and anger for you. If you're happy with angry sex, more power to you.
So you also think that white women are superior to women of other races, so you're a racist.
Thinking a non-white male can never truly love a white female, so you don't know what love is.
You think that women feel guilty for being their race, so you have no respect for women.
You think that all non-white males hate white males and are plotting against them, so you are close minded and don't associate with people of other races than your own.
So, I pity you.
submitting to a non-white
lust and anger
what the hell are you on?
because it sure aint reality
Not to mention:
Appeal to Fear
Circumstantial Ad Hominem
Poisoning the Well
...among others. You oughta be VERY ashamed.
Urias, What is your reason for being so against interracial relationships? I have read your opening discussion however I do detect some underlying anger about the situation. Philadelphia is a melting pot of people so what bothers you about it? Why do you feel women are trading down, when love does not see color? You never mentioned when men do it, there are plenty of white-men in interracial relationships, how do you feel about those? White-Asian, White-Black?
I just don't like seeing White women lower themselves. It's not normal, most women want a child that looks similar to them. White women who pollute their gene pool probably have a certain amount of self hate.
I had a date with a girl who was half Puerto Rican today.
YOU could use a good amount of self hate. You've certainly earned it.
I mean you are a filthy racist and if you hated yourself it would be the first example of sound judgment you've shown to date.
Because I despise filthy racists like you, that's why.
That's the difference between you and I. You HATE and I don't.
It is because of close-minded people like you that good people are prevented from being happy and having equal rights.
At least you've admitted to your racism. We're getting somewhere. The first step is admittance.
Who in this country are denied being happy and having equal rights? That's one of the most irresponsible comments you've made.
Structural racism etc. that people like you contribute to.
And just personal decency. I have had issues with people like you who don't see my relationship as "normal" or "right." I'm happy, get over it, and deal with your own issues. Obviously there are many.
Yeah, I have so many hang ups and issues, that I took a half Puerto Rican girl out today. I also had a black/white/Filipino girl living with me for three years. Some racist I am.
good thing you didn't try to breed with them, you would have damaged their line.
So you would date and sleep with a girl of another race? Just not marry or have children with them. Classy!
So you will use a woman to have sex with them, but do not ever plan to marry or commit to them.What happened to that love and respect you claimed to have for women? And it is ok for YOU to date and have sex with someone of another sex. But because I actually love and respect my boyfriend it is beneath me??
Do you still not see anything wrong with your logic?
You like making up stories in your own head, don't you? When did I say I didn't love the girls I went out with? I did, but we both knew we weren't going to marry and it had nothing to do with race. I never used my g/f's just for sex. Your b/f is only with you because you ARE White and if you're OK with that, cool.
If you did love them and you didn't marry them because of reasons other than race, then why is it ok for YOU to date someone of another race, but not for me? And how could your love for someone of another race EVER allow you to think inter-racial relationships are wrong?
Ooooo .... you're implying I'm a racist! Ouch, that hurts.
You already admitted you were one. No implications here. You aren't making any sense.
You claim you aren't racist, but then admit you are.
You say that interracial relationships are not ok, but then claim that you date outside of your own race.
Hey, this is America, think what you want. BTW, how badly has Japan suffered with all of their in breeding? Is there much diversity in Japan? They seem to be doing well, wouldn't you agree?
Inter-ethnic marriage in Japan dates back to the 7th century, when Chinese and Korean immigrants began intermarrying with the local population. By the early 9th century, over one-third of all noble families in Japan had ancestors of foreign origin.
Apparently there is a lot of diversity in Japan. You just didn't seem to think so.
Chinese, Korean, Japanese - at least they're all Asian. That's like saying I'm diverse because I'm Polish, german and Lithuanian. You gotta do better than that weak argument.
An Asian is an Asian, all the same. I KNOW you think you're better than the other Asians, you're Japanese and I'd bet you look down yur nose at Chinese and Laotians. I already know about the Asian "pecking order."
Are you going to try and claim you are NOT racist now? You've proven you are about 100 times in this thread alone.
Yes, I have an issue with filthy raicsts. It would 'help' if you would stop being a filthy racist.
Are you going to beat your White wife tonight? LOL! Get a grip!
That was stupid and irrational in several ways, racist.
Tksensei he's already said "so what?" to that, try a different approach.
I don't know what he wants out of me, he seems to have some kind of problem with my views.
Actually, he said "so what" and then "no I'm not!" so we still need to clarify. It seems he doesn't realize he's in a hole yet 'cause he's still digging.
he is. but so what you are going to do about it, is what he is saying. I see you all red and you are chasing your tail trying to prove some worthless point. So if he is racist, then what? Not to defend him but what other point is there to make on it?
The point is to point it out as clearly and frequently as possible so that if he refuses to see it at least everyone else will.
uh, it took his second post or so to see that. He has issues with white women dating outside their race, but has no issues having sex outside his. He is hypocrite, okay, and he is insecure about something, okay, feel better?
Oooooo ... I'm just pointing out that I'm not insecure. You're the one interjecting yourself into this fray.
I KNOW what I am seeing. Do you? Now (just above) you are even rude to the most innocuous of people, at least in this thread...Misha.
Most innocuous, eh? "I told Mommy on you guys!" is not innocuous. It is juvenile, but not innocuous.
this is when its better to just go outside and duke it out!
Something tells me YOU don't handle disagreements that way yourself.
its hard for me to find a good fight, I agree, people tend to want to sit down, drink a beer, and joke with me. Sometimes they even offer their wives.
It is still diversity whether the immigrants were from the same region or not. If I was a Mexican-Canadian American, I would consider myself of a very diverse background. But those countries are all from North America right?
Structural racism?LOL! Who taught you that one? Al Franken. EVERYBODY has opportunity in this country - EVERYBODY. Minorities actually have a leg up on getting hired. You are too much.
Sounds like you admitted it to me. And you still didn't answer my previous question.
You want to be right so bad, you can hardly control yourself. I'm not a racist, regardless of how bad you want me to be.
You didn't answer the question regarding men. So I guess you think it is ok for you to date someone of another race, but for that woman it is not ok? I bet if she knew what you were spewing on this forum, there wouldn't be a second date.
There are many interracial couples that are successful, and have beautiful and healthy children. Just because you have a child with someone of a different race doesn't mean the child won't look similar. The first rule of genetics... spread the genes apart. Having a child with someone of another race is not "polluting" the gene pool.
So you think inbreeding is a good, healthy idea, professor?
And what molecular biology degree do you have to support this? Don't talk about something you don't know about.
Pumpkin?? You've got to be kidding me. You obviously DON'T know. Have you ever taken a genetics course before? Or know even the basics? Obviously not. So again, don't talk about something you don't know about. It makes your argument even more weak. If that is possible.
So you would be in favor of brothers and sisters marrying then? That sound like a good idea to you, genius?
Yeah, half wit, I believe in incest. LOL!
Clearly you do. Perhaps because that's how YOU were produced?
Now, now ... you lost the argument already. No need to continue with the insults.
I'm still wondering, why do my views make you so angry? I believe in equal opportunity for EVERYBODY, nobody should be held back or denied something they want to work for. Why do you care?
Interesting you had a date with a woman who was half puerto-rican so you are saying it is o.k. for a man but not for a woman? What if you married the woman and you decided to have children, wouldn't that mess with your gene pool to?
I already asked that AE. His response is that he would date or have sex with a woman of another race, but not marry or have kids with her. And I think he's gone now.
When I have kids, it will be with a White woman.
good luck on your search, romeo. Sure you can find one that will degrade themselves?
Obviously you care about my views. Why do my personal preferences bother you?
I want you for myself. I want to make mad degenerate love with you.
Can a Phillies fan and Dodgers fan find true love together?
I don't know if that could ever work...east coast, west coast, you have smaller hot dogs, there is only one Dodger Dog.
And there is only one Phillies Frank. I promise, I won't knock you up.
would I even feel it? I got the feeling, you might try to add some relish to it.
You ARE just a kid, playing around on the internet. I don't believe you've been near a real woman of any race ever. Keep up the attitude and you never will, junior.
And you are just Japanese guy who looks down at Chinese and Laotians.
No. Just as a matter of fact, he is a Irish guy, I think, who married a Japanese woman.
That's not so bad, then. I should've known - Boston/Irish. His screen name threw me off.
Words in the English language threw you off, dope.
Once again, because you don't agree with my views, you resort to name calling. Typical liberal tactic. You lose.
actually he's not liberal either. Point deducted. He's in love with GWB.
Either way, "I'm this and I'm that" because I don't like White women dating down. I must be a horrible, horrible person. LOL! You people would be shocked.
Calm yourself man, your imagination is running wild. How could you really "shock" anyone by what you are saying? Its validation for most people.
I'm saying you people would be shocked at how nice I really am.
you ooze with love. My guess is that you think you are smart guy, believe yourself to be superior to everyone else, you give out to show what a "decent" human being does, yet I sense there is the complex in you that in some ways you are not equal to minorities, and that bothers you, otherwise you would just let it go.
Is it important we know that? Not supposed to be taking anything personally, you know, right? Much too subjective.. I've my theories. East Coast is a certain atmosphere.
Yeah, I know you think you're 'cute' and all that but you need to work on the act. You're probably all of two years older than racism-boy there.
he is like some giant and you are a midget trying to run forward and punch him while he puts his big paw on your forehead and laughs. That is the current picture. Care to continue?
You ARE in fact a horrible, horrible person for even harboring such a #$%@ stupid notion in your little pea brain, junior.
great insult, I'm sure that scarred him for life.
Does it bother you that your Japanese wife thinks the Japs are superior to all the other Asians?
Can vouch for that. He simply cannot argue. Liberals are not the root of all evil, ie...oh, well. Some other time.
Liberals have done some good things, no doubt.
Ooops! There's another of those logical fallacies you are researching.
No. It's clear you don't argue well. That's my opinion, based on quite a FEW factors, cutting to the chase. Grade: D-.
BTW, believe junior isn't but maybe within 10 years difference of you. You do not pay attention to detail, and your arguments consists of excessively juvenile tactics. I'm surprised anyone pays you at all. But then I doubt they do, much.
How's that for some ad hominem? One of those fallacies I'm researching I'd be happy to use here. I really DO NOT want to speak to you again, so I won't. All you are about is attacking ANYONE for anything. Stupid is just stupid.
"Liberal" LoL, wrong again, junior. You're wrong about EVERYTHING, aren't you, junior?
It's reality, you just choose to ignore it.
Don't pity me, pity yourself.
I think White women who date outside their race, due in part, to White guilt and they want to show the world how "progressive" they are, when in fact, they are lowering themselves.
Yes, I think White women, in general, are more desirable than women of other races.
Again, you actually have valid points buried under all that surface whatever racist stuff you are trying to take on and present. Much of this is actual anthropologically/sociologically sound--does NOT make it RIGHT. Class does have something to do with the mix, I would also say.
And, sometimes it is not about guilt at all, lol, but plain old ordinary attraction.
(fyi, stop using that term 'axe to grind,' OK? It is similar to 'chip on the shoulder,' and I just hate it.)
If I use it again, do you promise to spank me? HaHaHa!
Na. Find a mixed race relationship that goes with your views.
Rascism is like a poison and eats like cancer.
Far worse than race,color or creed.
White is not a race !
Never has been , never will be
I am a Native American woman. I date outside of my own nationality, does that make me as bad or what? who let this guy in? lol
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