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   ceciliabeltranposted 14 years ago

   What we eat affects not only how our bodies look but also how we think. Certain chemicals affect our brains and so it affects our choices and our choices make us who we are.
   
   So does that mean that if you're a meat-eater,you're more predatory socially? Does being a vegetarian make you a docile creature.
   
   Any thoughts?

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      Obscure Divineposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I'm highly omnivorous and I'm far from finicky, so I often think about everything.  But, when really hungry, I'm solely a carnivore...and during those times, I simplify my thoughts to a caveman's actuality in a pristine fashion of self-core awareness.

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         ceciliabeltranposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I appreciate the poetry, but now I don't know exactly what you mean.

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      SummerStewardposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I'm vegetarian, and I am FAR from docile. Just trying to be an ethical consumer. I don't think it has anything to do with instinct, we have evolved enough to live outside of instinct in some regards, making ethical choices one of those.

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         ceciliabeltranposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         well you know, the ability to make an ethical choice shows that the hunger for killing something in order to live is making you less predatory as you go along.
         
         But heavy meat eaters cannot live without meat. Show them dead cow and they'll think oh...poor cow, now when do we cook it.

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            SummerStewardposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            That's absolute rubbish. I was a heavy meat eater for 20 years. I not only can live without the desire to eat meat, but not even a craving. I grew up on sausages for breakfast, turkey for lunch and beef for dinner.  Not to mention  jerky's and animal product cheeses for snacks.  Thanks to mom very little fruits or veggies. Not only am I more clear headed, but I have a healthier digestive system to boot. It's been 6 years and I have found that eating healthier in this manner incites a desire to continue doing so.
            
            Being healthier also encourages a mindset to be more aggressive about what it wants. Being evolved past the point of instincts, I think "predatory" takes on a different context.

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               ceciliabeltranposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               many people are predatory, they just express it differently. Our instincts you'll be surprised is heavily influenced by our biochemistry which is directly influenced by food ingestion.
               
               Autism has been found to reduce in gravity when cow's milk is taken off the diet. SO, doesn't that say that if you drink the milk of cows too much at some point in your genetic line, you start becoming like a baby cow. No language, just repetitive twitching of in our case fingers the way cows twitch their tails and ears...
               
               I'm just saying, maybe we shouldn't be stealing the poor baby cow's milk. Our teeth look like horse and goat teeth. we don't have canine. so why are we eating meat?

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                  SummerStewardposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  I'll agree with you there. I have worked with several autistic people and often they are allergic to dairy, or just as precaution put on an entirely vegan organic diet. Also having allergies or peaks in behaviors when food dyes  and preservatives are added to their diets.
                  
                  I don't claim to know the scientific facts your aiming for here, but I can tell you that as soon as I dropped meat from my diet, my metabolism increased and my digestive system made leaps and bounds in the direction of improvement. I lost over 40lbs.
                  
                  I've often thought with the introduction of bleached flour and an emphasis on meats and dairy we have walked away from what could be considered a natural diet for us and has led us instead down the way to obesity.

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                     ceciliabeltranposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     The ability to intellectualize food ingestion to think of the future is very forager. Case in point you.
                     
                     As for meat-eating, check out the Greek One. Another case in point. The biochemistry is addicted to it, so even if its not logical given the serious implications on our long term survival and the planet we live in, they still will choose on the basis of what the biochemistry is calling for.
                     
                     "I eat meat, I am already primed for meat eating, don't change the system!"
                     
                     Meat eaters will eat at the expense of what it eats. Because well, it's food. In the same vein, (pun intended) meat-eaters will have no qualms to be top of the food chain psychologically. I'm on top, you're food sort of mindset. The body needs to have that apathy in order to enable the body to ingest the dead animal.
                     
                     The more you eat vegetables, the less you have these hormonal behaviors and are able to think clearly about choices.
                     
                     Deer thinks, should I go this path or that path? Hmmm.....wait. I think something is looking at me. what's that? A lot of deliberating going on when you're an herbivore. You stay alive by being away from danger and thinking in advance.
                     
                     Predators however are territorial, a little lazy and lethargic with occasional spurts of energy.
                     
                     I think if meat eating is reduced, coffee drinking will go down with it as well (and that is a sad sad prospect, sorry caffeine addict)

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      WildIrisposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      If I eat chocolate does that mean I'm sweet?
      Meat eater or vegetarian a side, man is a predatory creature.

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         ceciliabeltranposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         If you eat chocolate, you will have a lot of serotonin, you'll be happy and feeling sexy.
         
         Also, when you get your period, don't you crave chocolate...it's the magnesium. If you don't satisfy this craving, you'll have PMS.
         
         Doesn't that point to how food directly affects behavior. Happy chocolate eater on one side, the wrath of khan on the other-sans chocolates.

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            Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            well, you ARE right about eating chocolate and feeling sexy
            
            

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               ceciliabeltranposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               thanks, that is definitely reason not to eat anything for a year.

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                  ceciliabeltranposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  LOL! scary!

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      sooner than laterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I would say meat eaters are more hostile.

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      qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Cecil:
      The old adage we are what we eat was edited and changed. It now reads: We are what we "assimilate" of what we eat.
      I am also very omnivorous, but I will not eat "beef."
      Beef is difficult to digest. It may hang around in the gut for days fermenting (rotting) before being ejected. Bacteria can thrive in it and it can cause problems in the gut before being "dumped."
      Beef is also too fatty, the protein in it is hard to metabolize and cattle is fed with hormones that increase their size and weight. Chickens are also fed hormones but, damnit, I love chicken....lol
      I try to eat foods that supply "complete" proteins, are moderate in complex carbohydrates and low in fat of any kind.
      I try to restrict my intake of "simple" carbs and the fats I do consume must not be "partially hydrogenated oils" of any kind and certainly not any, or extremely little animal fat.
      We have evolved to be "Human" because we became omnivores with a high intake of animal protein.

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         Obscure Divineposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Naturally organic meat is totally fine; yummy!  Fish is also great, as long as it is not in highly polluted waters.

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         ceciliabeltranposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Well we needed to eat, and with the lack of substantial food around, we learned to eat meat. We are survivors, ya? But excessive meat eating is detrimental to our health and the planet's. So are we going to persist on this habit we acquired?
         
         Buddhist countries have smiley people,and they are generally more peaceful (except for India, they are the most argumentative people to ever attend any meeting, as a generalization of course) These people most of the time do not eat meat, or garlic.
         
         Western people in places where burgers, steaks and pork are the staple are more "Are you talking to me? ARE YOU TALKING TO ME,WHAT ARE YOU SMILING AT?"

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      ITSecurityAnalystposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      You are what you think and write.

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         mega1posted 14 years agoin reply to this

         eeeewwwwww!

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            myownworldposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            

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         ceciliabeltranposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         That too... but that's another forum.

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   EyesAndEarsposted 14 years ago

   oh, please.  i think it refers to depressive/suicidal/happy thoughts not being a predator because we eat meat!   lol

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      Obscure Divineposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Uhh, you landed on the wrong forum thread.  Psychology is somewhere else, or you could also try alternative medicine.  Ha-ha!

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         EyesAndEarsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         i stand by what i say.  i happen to be a meat eater, and i like some vegetarian foods, but am definitely NOT predatory!   LOL

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            Obscure Divineposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Okay..., then why did you mention depression, suicide, and demented thoughts of delirium?  For a whole minute, I thought we were talking about "you are what you eat" or something, and you start getting psycho-active upon the possibility of mental ailments from predatory actions - due to seeking food.  LOL!

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               EyesAndEarsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Certain chemicals affect our brains and so it affects our choices and our choices make us who we are.
               
               i was referring to this comment. i think this is referring to depressive/suicidal/happy thoughts, not whether or not a person is a social predator!  lol

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                  Obscure Divineposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Well, I choose to claim hogwash when I see it. 
                  The "Mental Health" category is here:
                  http://hubpages.com/forum/category/2427
                  
                  Thanks, Ha-ha! 

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            ceciliabeltranposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            well are you competitive and a little moody sometimes?

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               EyesAndEarsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               isn't everyone?   lol
               
               seriously, though, i eat more salads during the spring and summer months, but my actions and behaviors dont change lol  only my thoughts of fitting into a bikini when I go to the beach   lol

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                  ceciliabeltranposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  well the bikini definitely inspires predators, so on the summer and spring months, you start behaving like prey! Just kidding.
                  
                  I don't know, steak eaters tend to like competitive sports more, don't you think?

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                     EyesAndEarsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     what is it with the idea of predators??   lol
                     
                     hmm, steak eaters like competitive sports....i think you might be right!  i'm not big on steaks...not much anyway...sometimes...but not much!  lol

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                        ceciliabeltranposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        nothing, its just an idea I've been bouncing around in my head. Need to lose weight, hence the preoccupation with food.

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         ceciliabeltranposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         no, it could say that. anything is cool here. you can even say certain foods make you behave in certain ways, the way catnip affects cats.

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            Obscure Divineposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            If foods or the concept of predatory actions make you suicidal & depressed like she mentioned, then no, I don't think it fits in here - under this forum thread.

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   ralwusposted 14 years ago

   Oh! I reckon that makes me a real pussy.

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      EyesAndEarsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      leave them kitty cats alone, i say!!!   LOL

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      mega1posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      and here I was thinking you were just and old dawg!  but still, I am gonna teach you a few new tricks, anyhow!

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   mega1posted 14 years ago

   arggghhhhh!  what are those beans doing to me?
   
   (poot)

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   myownworldposted 14 years ago

   And I eat lots of nuts! So................. ?

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      ceciliabeltranposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      you like shopping, right?

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         myownworldposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         ok. I'm a woman, what do u expect?
         C'mon, that was too easy...give us something better than that!

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            ceciliabeltranposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Well nuts, nuts are rich in protein but they are also rich in parasites, which is why some people are allergic to it. So I would say you probably are irritable suffering from occasional acne which leads to poor self-esteem on the days you have them....just a wild guess.
            
            nuts give you acne. (you wanted more so I'm giving you more....no disrespect intended.)

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               myownworldposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               ..nice try, but mercifully I have clear skin... (Welcome to scan that pic if you like - it's my present one.. nope, u won't find a zit, sorry!)
               As for low self esteem....so the days I skip nuts, I'll have a high one...? ok. that's a first... hmm....

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                  ceciliabeltranposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  well ofcourse you eat more than nuts right? just as an example.

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                     Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     have you ever eaten the nuts off of a fruit??

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      Obscure Divineposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Was that an ambiguous statement? 

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         Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         she said "eat" silly

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            myownworldposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            

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            Obscure Divineposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Hey now, I've heard it called that before.  Not everybody uses the term swallow, since it is so cliche.  Ha-ha!

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               myownworldposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               so what does that make you, cocky??

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                  Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  hahahahahs

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                  Obscure Divineposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Ha-ha!  No, the provider...

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                     Greek Oneposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     you have to admit, you do get a little 'testy' sometimes

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                        Obscure Divineposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        Testicles?  WTF?  LOL! 

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                           ceciliabeltranposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                           ok, time to call your girlfriend Obscure.

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                              myownworldposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                              
                              
                              this thread gets more hilarious by the moment....!

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                              Obscure Divineposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                              I already seen her this morning, but now she is sleeping and it is just me & cyberspace.  I do have to work tonight, so sleep is near...  Thanks for the advice, though... 

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                                 ceciliabeltranposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                 I see...*wink*. You guys have had your meat-eating for the day, right?

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   Greek Oneposted 14 years ago

   So THAT's why they call me a 'lard ass'!!

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   mega1posted 14 years ago

   I  have   been   eating        crow  all   day!
   
   
   gotta run out for more Rolaids now.

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   ceciliabeltranposted 14 years ago

   Oh but isn't it a fact that our biology supports our food choices. Meaning if you have to chase the rabbit/bison, you have to have an aggressive soup in our brain? But if you're getting your nutrition from foraging, you won't need as much stress producing hormones.
   
   Just saying, beef eaters tend to watch more basketball and football than tofu eaters, who lets say likes to do crafts like beading or other hand-eye coordination things,foraging skills basically.
   
   The stress hormones your body produces that will help make you crouch around like a lion trapping a gazelle is translated as manipulative strategies to gain a promotion for instance. Tofu eating would require you to have the focus to actually pick the soy of a plant, so lots of concentration and attention to details would result. you'll be more patient.
   
   If you eat both, like Obscure, you probably swing from being a predator and a docile animal...much like obscure.

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   Greek Oneposted 14 years ago

   what did you say about my teeth???
   
   

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      ceciliabeltranposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      LOL! you need to brush horsy!

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    Greek Oneposted 14 years ago

    i like chemicals and hormones!!
    
    I like chicken that has been scientifically altered to meet the needs of my taste buds!
    
    I like bloody slabs of cow carcasses the leave me constipated for days!!
    
    I like it and you can't make me stop from gorging off of the 'fat of the land' (literally)
    
    However, in a spirit of compromise, I will have some carrot cake

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       myownworldposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         true wisdom.....!
       
       (and lol @ obscure!)

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    mega1posted 14 years ago

    well ok, smartypants, I am nuts!  and what have I been eating?
    
    
    beans!
    
    
    SO MUCH FOR THAT THEORY!  whoooowhooooowhooooo

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    Greek Oneposted 14 years ago

    leave the guy alone.. he is ballsy the way he comes on here and... oh oh. I did it again

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    waynetposted 14 years ago

    Then I'm a filthy takeaway with grease dripping off.....

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       SummerStewardposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       eeewwww. I can't believe you just said that!!! haha

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          waynetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Tis true, I need to diet and keep fit or else I'll have a heart attack....oh well!

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             SummerStewardposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             tis okay. Sometimes I eat french fries or a slice of greasy cheese pizza.

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                waynetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm pizza!

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                   SummerStewardposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   I know right!?!?!?

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       myownworldposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       ok. that does it. I'm never ordering takeaway again!
       
       (at least hubby will be happy... )

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    mega1posted 14 years ago

    I'd like two orders of eyes and ears - to go, please!  and could I have extra tartar sauce with that, please?  OH!  and a tall cherry coke!  Thanks.

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    mega1posted 14 years ago

    und zoo  eef one eats much yogurt?

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       ceciliabeltranposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       i don't know, I suppose you start acting like bacteria?

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          mega1posted 14 years agoin reply to this

          slimey

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    ceciliabeltranposted 14 years ago

    ok, lets all have dinner guys. I think that's the whole point of this thread....and once again 3 hours down the drain.

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       mega1posted 14 years agoin reply to this

       no, no, don't throw it down the drain!  there are children starving in China who would eat that!

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          ceciliabeltranposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          err, trust me the food in china is great. it's my own refrigerator that's the problem. think I'll go for pizza.

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    ralwusposted 14 years ago

    y'all have made me hungry and now my predator mode has kicked in. where is my ephalant gun?

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    Supatrupaposted 14 years ago

    Oh I'm definitely a predator.. As a soldier one of my duties is to eat otherwise I will not survive...

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    sxyshiningsmileposted 14 years ago

    i agree with you.

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