Discrimination against GLBTI Hubbers

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   TransScribblerposted 13 years ago

   Why are GLBTI hubbers discriminated against when it comes to adverts on our Hubs? I am trying to share my story about growing up trans. Everytime that I write a Hub on anything GLBTI my ads are disabled. Why? This is wrong and does not happen on the affiliate hosted blog where I post on the same issues.

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      Susana Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      It's not discrimination. It's simply because of google's TOS which hubpages follows to the letter. HP recently implemented some automatic filters to catch words that might be a problem with google and that seems to be what's happened with your hubs.
      
      You can email hubpages and ask them to review the hubs that have adsense disabled and they may decide they are ok.

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         TransScribblerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks Susana
         
         The affiliate hosted blog is with google/blogger. They have nop problem with the subject there, so why here? I have emailed HP before and had ads reinstated, but should not have to. There is no sexual or pornographic content in what I write. It is simply about growing up identifying as trans.
         Maybe I should just pull the pin on my HP account and stick with the blog?

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            Susana Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            
            
            The filter cannot read the content or the context of the words. Any hub with the word sex in it will have ads disabled automatically. Even words like breast trip the filter. Hubpages may be being a little over cautious, but that's pretty sensible business wise for them (and for us). If they are reinstating your ads, then it's not a problem is it?

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               TransScribblerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               That's all very well, but it is the principle of the thing.
               HP says that it is because of Google's TOS, yet the same words do not attract filters and removal of adverts on Google's own services.
               Anyway, it is a moot point now, as I have solved the problem... for the time being at least.
               Thanks to all for feedback.
               TS.

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                  ryankettposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Thats because Google are not kind enough to give you a warning, they will simply press 'delete' on your AdSense account and never give it back to you.
                  
                  Which is precisely why Hubpages seeks to protect:
                  
                  1) Your AdSense account.
                  2) Their AdSense account.
                  
                  Mainly number 2, naturally. You should be grateful that Hubpages alerted you to this problem, and remove AdSense from your blog immediately. There are plenty of topics which are AdSense friendly, and plenty of advertisers which are less sensitive to niches such as yours.

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         psycheskinnerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         The Google TOS do not assume every GLBTI website is about explicit sex--in fact it assumes it is not.  Their TOS are very clear and GLBTI content is explicitly permitted.  GLBTI keywords do not cause problems with Adsense who have paid me out several times on my own GLBTI-themed websites.
         
         Whereas Hubpages has an explicit ban on putting adsense on GLBTI hubs whether or not they have sexual content.  This assumes GLBTI is only about porn and sex and is both prejudiced and insulting.  As I said when this policy was made, and continue to think, this is a terrible policy by Hubpages which reflects badly on us all.
         
         This is not an Adsense policy, it is a Hubpages policy, and a prejudiced one.  Every hub about normitive heterosexual people's relationships is not assumed to be objectionable.

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            Susana Sposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I don't find it prejudiced or insulting. My bisexuality hub has had adsense removed and it's simply a business decision, not something to take personally. HP are erring on the side of caution - maybe it's over-cautious, but it's all hubs that contain particular words e.g. sex, breast, penis, not just ones dealing with LGBT issues that trip the filter.
            
            There is not an explicit ban on adsense for LGBTI hubs. Here's some that do:  http://hubpages.com/hub/Best-Cities-For … ian-Travel
            
            http://hubpages.com/hub/Gay-and-Lesbian … dern-Games
            
            http://hubpages.com/hub/How-will-you-kn … and-is-gay
            
            There are plenty others with ads on if you search for "gay" hubs.
            
            Here's a nice hub on large size condoms targeted at hetero males that has obviously had the adsense removed.
            
            It's a global HP thing, and so not something to get all het up about.

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            TransScribblerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Thank you!
            Thank you soooo much for posting this response! Seems it is not just me being a paranoid, cranky old trani after all!

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   WryLiltposted 13 years ago

   It's nothing against gay people - it's just a general ban on anything sexual. For instance, I've written a hub on how to avoid pregnancy but because it has some sexual information on it, adverts have been disabled.
   
   https://www.google.com/adsense/support/ … wer=105957

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   pisean282311posted 13 years ago

   i wrote hub on abortion and my ads were disabled in it..topic was important so i kept it on ..google tos is not determined by hubpages and it cannot do anything about it..if you believe what you are writing is important and want people to read , ad or no ad you must publish...

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   thisisoliposted 13 years ago

   Google will still give you trouble if you place Adsense ads on an adult blogger blog.  ikewise if you have an adult/sexually related blog on blogger and don't mark it as such they may remove it without notice.

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   maddy757posted 13 years ago

   The adult content can be viewed by anybody of any age. So its the Google policy which is holding you back from placing Adsense.

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   Susana Sposted 13 years ago

   Ryan and Oli are right. Just because your blog is currently showing adsense ads it might not stay that way. Here's some more info from the horses mouth:
   
   http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/A … &hl=en
   
   http://adsense.blogspot.com/2007/11/pla … -safe.html

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   TransScribblerposted 13 years ago

   Ok... the google/blogger/blogpost blog has had an adult content warning on it since I created it. Even though there is no adult or sexual oriented material on my blog, I thought that it would be better to have it and not need it than vice versa.
   
   It all seems to be a case of "we respect your right to freedom of speech/expression... as long as you don't use it."
   
   I have found a non-google & affiliate blog host, and have created an account there to move my google/blogspot and HP posts if needed.
   
   Again, thanks for your feedback and info.
   TS

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      thisisoliposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      No problem, don't be disuaded though, Hubpages is a great place to write, and make moeny if you feel inclined to!
      
      If your blog has the adult warning then it will be fine, it's only te adsense portion of it that may cause problems, and there are plenty of other advertisers out there!
      
      I have to admit though, sometimes Googles double standards between advertisers and publishers annoy me.

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