Has Darwin's Evolution Theory clouded our judgments

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   IntimatEvolutionposted 14 years ago

   I just recently learned that the human Genome project scientist have discovered the fact that during the history of mankind, there has been times in our "evolution" where Homo sapiens have advanced at such a rapid pace, that it falls out of the Evolution Theory's spectrum.  Anyone else read like information?  They even cited our advancements in just the past 125 years, as one such drastic leap forward for us, that they are rethinking the theory of evolution all together now.

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      Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Where do you get this nonsense? We have had many "leaps" forward and backward, depending on your perspective.
      
      Falls out of the Evolution Theory's spectrum?
      "They" are rethinking the theory of evolution all together?
      
      Good grief.

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         IntimatEvolutionposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         There is more than just evolution of the physical body.  Good grief Mark, why so cranky? 
         
         The fact that in 1900 we were still riding in buggies, to landing a craft on the moon only 60 years later, is one such leap.
         
         The mind Mark. The fact that human intelligence has advanced so rapidly is causing scientific communities to rethink evolution.  Don't be so quick to chastise me.  I have NEVER admitted that I'm some sort of "scientist" nor pretend to be one either.  I just read a lot of mainstream archaeological news articles and science articles.  But I am no scientist.  I am just reporting the new findings.  I cannot help it you don't keep yourself update on new scientific findings.  If you want to blame someone for stupidity, blame National Geographic for supplying the information.  Blame your European and French scientist who come up with these discoveries, blame the education system period. 
         
         But to single me out, like I'm the one making this stuff up, well......  I'm quite flatter you think so highly of me and my potential.  But sorry, this I cannot take credit for this information.
         
         I suggest you start reading up on the Human Genome Project.

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            Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Silly me thinking you were talking about biological evolution. Now we are talking about Darwin's theory of the evolution of the automobile.
            
            But - I am keen to know what the Human Genome Project has to say about modes of transportation. Dear me.

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               IntimatEvolutionposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Hardy, har, har Mark...., your so cute and funny.  I don't appreciate your undertone here in your last few posts with me.  You want to make this debate with me a religious one.  However, its not.  You've attacked every approach I've made in this particular forum.  I explain to you where I get my information.  What do you do?  You poke fun at me, and lead readers to think I'm stupid or something.  That smells to me, of an old, angry  man, who is frighten of change. Get over yourself Mark.  Therefore, there is no need for you to keep on engaging me over and over. You NEVER offer up anything substantial in your hateful rebuttals...., but, mistaken innuendos.  You write to Brenda of hypocrisy. Please look in the mirror.
               
               
               By the way- YOU have lost yourself a HUGE fan.  I know I have over 50 backlinks to your hubs alone, I have your profile name spotlighted in several of my hubs, I support your personal blog, I often refer people to your recipes......  Maybe you can afford to throw money away.   I can't.  But next time you might want to try respecting or appreciating your fellow hubbers opinions.  They just might be one of your best customers or avid supporters.

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               Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               What? Do you really don't believe the fittest car will survive 2012? Dear me! You lost yet another avid fan and supporter Mark, you soon will not have any means of producing an air stream on a hot day.
               
               Happy New Year everybody, though!

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            Beelzedadposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/H … home.shtml
            
            Please show where exactly the scientific community is rethinking evolution.

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      psycheskinnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Evoltuion doesn't have a rate 'spectrum'. Do you have a reference for this suggestion?

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         IntimatEvolutionposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Yeah I do.  I read an article about two doctors, who were writing or wrote a series of scientific documents on the study of Psychohistorical research, or human mind evolution.  They called it the Consciousness Shift.  I think I first read about them in a Smithsonian magazine article, or something.  I'm not sure where, and I guess that doesn't really matter. 
         
         Now there are a lot of crazy articles out on the web about this stuff, many too humorous to mention.  Now I know we all like a good laugh now and then, but for serious research, I'd go to my nearest library if you are really interested in this stuff. Barry and Janae Weinhold, Ph.D.s. They have devoted their careers to the Study of consciousness and evolution.
         
         Now when I used the word spectrum, I'm not referring to light.  I am referring to the fact that evolution has a board spectrum of topics, that many (us commoners) do not think are included now, in Darwin's theory.  Evolution of these topics, such as the evolution of the human mind, and consciousness, must be taken into account as well. Don't you think?  On that note, I will mention that there is new data, supported by the Human Genome project, which collaborates with some of the Weinhold's studies.

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   melporposted 14 years ago

   I do not think Charles Darwin Theory ( no longer a theory) has clouded anyone judgement. The problem is many people refused to accept the obvious and hold on to something that is not factual or make any sense. A good example of this way of thinking is what happened a few centuries ago when Copernicus said the earth revolves around the sun; everyone thought he was crazy because people refused to accept the obvious and stick with nonsense. As I said before, evolution is not a theory anymore and have been proven a hundred time over now. Just look at your children, they are a prime example of the progression of the process of evolution.

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   psycheskinnerposted 14 years ago

   Where you read it does matter because to comment of a legitimate scientific discovery I need to have access to a direct report on it.
   
   And in the scientific sense of mutation and natural selection evolution refers only to genes.  The principle applies *only by analogy* to other things.  It is not the same actual units, principles and laws at work.  for example because ideas can spread lateral to your friends, genes can descend only to your children.

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      IntimatEvolutionposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Well since it's important to you, thank goodness I gave you so many great reference points to begin your research in.  Glad to be of help. 
      
      
      Back to the connection, the point being there is a connection.

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   psycheskinnerposted 14 years ago

   There is a connection bewteen what and what?  A connection by analogy is not a connection as recognised by science.  My form of psychology (behaviorism) uses the same understanding of variability and selection used by Darwin.  But it is a loose inspiration only.
   
   I am still not really sure what your original point was, something about mutations being too fast to be caused by evolution?  I was trying to narrow down to the phenomenon you were actually asking about which is why I asked for a reference, or even just the researcher's name?
   
   It is impossible to discuss a scientific discovery is we donlt first identify the evidence that was collected and the exact assertion being made based upon it.  'Close enough' is not 'good enough'.
   
   p.s. I have studied and published in the area of evolutionary psychology.  So I am asking which finding you want to discuss exactly, not for a general primer.

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   Evan G Rogersposted 14 years ago

   "Has the theory of evolution clouded our judgements?"
   
   Well, yes, to an extent.
   
   The same way that "discovering that lightning creates anti-matter" has 'clouded' our judgement.
   
   The same way that "understanding that the world is made up of atoms" has 'clouded' our judgement.
   
   The same way that "understanding chemistry" has 'clouded' our judgments.
   
   Everything has 'clouded' our judgements, it's just that these clouds tend to make things clearer.

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   AskAshlie3433posted 14 years ago

   It is true. they are true. the proof is there time to start believing there is life out there

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   Mikeydoesposted 14 years ago

   Darwin has come up with a solid platform to which we know very little about. I can not say he is wrong or right, but what I can say is he certainly got us headed in the right direction.

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