Pandaganda is about social buzz replacing backlinks!!!!

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  1. bgamall profile image68
    bgamallposted 13 years ago

    The Panda update, which I call Pandaganda, due to the fact that social buzz is controlled by mainstream propaganda media, is what is driving some pages to the top of search. Since this is the case, nothing but massive buzz will help us. Here is proof that what I say is true from a great site: http://synnd.com/social-media-marketing … marketing/

    Since this is the case, it is essential that something be buzzed up with regularity on this site. It is all about the buzz.

    1. tritrain profile image69
      tritrainposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I was thinking Pandageddon.

    2. thisisoli profile image69
      thisisoliposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Social media is a part of SEO, but only a part.

      I think you need to lighten up on the conspiracy theories BGA. Especially since a lot of small sites have done extremely well out of the Panda update.

    3. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image81
      Wesman Todd Shawposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      So if I understand this correctly - the best thing to do here is spend more time generating followers or friends on facebook and twitter?

      Pandaganda and Pandageddon are too awesome to comment on :big_smile

      1. sunforged profile image70
        sunforgedposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        no

        The best thing to do is find low competition high value terms to optimize your new and existing content to.

        That content should be high quality (subjective) but at least put your best effort in.


        Social buzz is still just a small factor and really shouldnt make up a huge part of your promotion strategy UNLESS your content fits a clear definable niche/category..

        If your content fits definable categories, then you should build your own sites and promote that brand as you would any other which includes social promotion. Its a very easy way to promote if your content is something that someone may actually want to share with others.


        You can try to game this factor (social buzz) but if you are to game any factor your best bet is to generate backlinks not "likes" or "+1's"


        Confusince says "it doesnt matter how much salt you have in your stew if your serving uncooked pork."



        I actually prefer "Algopacalypse" or in the HP case "pandAring" to google

        1. bgamall profile image68
          bgamallposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I don't buy that. My hubs that were copied to Business Insider with permission from Hubpages (we can no longer do that) rank pretty well in search. So, it is the authority of the site, not the quality of the article that matters. Used to be, the Hubpages ranked higher than the BI version. Not any more.

          And authority comes from being tweeted alot and being liked. Google has taken original content and buried it, while giving it's favorites a higher placement for the very same content.

          1. sunforged profile image70
            sunforgedposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Im not selling it.

            I think you would be best served by reading up on the plethora available sources on what the ranking factors for a site are..start at SEOMOZ.

            Also perhaps read up on the scientific method or try linking to some authoritative sources. As you recall, I was quite unimpressed by the original link in this thread.

            We know google uses twitter, facebook and soon their own +1 as a factor in their HUGE mix of factors - Authority by its very nature is not created overnight by "buzz" and trying to link buzz and authority together as one factor is at its core wrong, semantically and mathematically.


            all of these changes and tweaks are far easier to comprehend when you deal with them in a systematic and informed manner.

            by all means, go off and court "likes" but you will prove to be little competition to the rest of us if that is the backbone of your campaign.

            1. bgamall profile image68
              bgamallposted 13 years agoin reply to this

              Unless you can explain the burying of original content in favor of a copy on a website of authority ranking higher than the original you haven't made your case. Google has thrown the little people under the bus.

              1. sunforged profile image70
                sunforgedposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                I have no case.

                i was suggesting you are barking up the wrong tree, by all means, full steam ahead, "like" your way to the top.


                your present mindset, pretty much gives you no hope to succeed and conquer. If google is out to get you and is only helping out their "friends", how are you ever going to get ahead? I know otherwise, as I am more of the type who find the way to infiltrate and then attacks. I still write articles that see hundreds of views within hours.

                Competitive analysis seems to be most hubbers weakest skill. Hp isnt completely broken anyway, we just have to drop our sights MUCH lower as to what will rank quickly.



                an explanation would involve a dissection of at least 20 factors starting w/ # of and related nature of backlinks - site structure and speed would matter as also would visual appeal and the level of advertising space the viewer is forced to see.

                1. bgamall profile image68
                  bgamallposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Those factors may apply. But when Google took my original content here and made it secondary to Business Insider where I syndicated the content, they broke an unwritten contract with me. Google is a predator and a thug.

                  Google is just like the big banks. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

                  1. sunforged profile image70
                    sunforgedposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                    Then rob the bank, the blueprints are all over the net

        2. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image81
          Wesman Todd Shawposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Well, I don't do keyword research at all.  I'm finding that sometimes I get really lucky by writing articles that, surprisingly, do have some pretty original ideas, and little competition.

          I've got several themes going on hubpages.  I'm not nearly savvy enough to create my own site, but at some point I will be.

          I've seen people here say that they do not back link at all, and they've still hit the "Hubpages success story" page for earnings.  I'm not sure how that happens, but I guess that you have to have several persons who like you enough to promote for you.  Otherwise, I just can't see it.  I also think that the people who got into this game early on are making a large portion of their earnings from referrals.

  2. sunforged profile image70
    sunforgedposted 13 years ago

    What makes the site great?

    Is it their revolutionary lack of proofreading smile

    First line of FAQs

    "Who would you recommend as the tip people to listen to related to SEO?"

    1. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image81
      Wesman Todd Shawposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You are one of the people that I recommend to folks so far as learning this article game goes.  I've always appreciated how helpful you always are.

      You know, I joined IB after you.  I like that site, and I know I've probably not done my best there; but I just don't get hardly any traffic there at all.  I do think that the proofreading done there, and the idea of earning the right to publish without supervision is the way to go.

      1. sunforged profile image70
        sunforgedposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        I hope wherever I linked to IB it was described as a means to create a diversity of links.

        Hubpages, infobarrel , xomba etc are at best a means to push traffic and juice to your own content or offers (if your in the make money crowd that is... of course community, having your work read etc is another benefit..but not one I much mention)

        Its not surprising that IB hasnt been highly trafficked for you, hopefully, IB has links leading to your Hubs or sites though.

        Pre-panda, the site seemed promising because of its more rigid submission process. But, IB got hit just as hard as any of the other multi-user unfocused (topic-wise) farms.

        1. bgamall profile image68
          bgamallposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          The biggest unfocused farm in the world is Dmoz. smile

          If you look at some of their subjects, they are outdated and useless. Still a favorite of Google? Maybe, but for how long?

  3. PaulGoodman67 profile image96
    PaulGoodman67posted 13 years ago

    Argh!  This means Justin Bieber will be number one in every Google search because of all those teenage girls retweeting and FB sharing!  Pandageddon it is!

    1. bgamall profile image68
      bgamallposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I like Pandageddon too, but Pandaganda reminds us of the news media distortions of the truth with Google egging it on!

      No Forged, the point is, they get it. They don't spell well but you can "like" it so that will fix that. smile

  4. bgamall profile image68
    bgamallposted 13 years ago

    Did anyone not see this?

    1. Mark Ewbie profile image82
      Mark Ewbieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Yes I saw it, but was tired at the time.

      I like Pandaganda very much and I like Pandageddon too.

      tbh I can't choose between them.

      1. bgamall profile image68
        bgamallposted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Let's use them both, lol.

      2. Mutiny92 profile image65
        Mutiny92posted 13 years agoin reply to this

        Or the verb "pandalyzed"

        1. bgamall profile image68
          bgamallposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Yes, I am afraid we have been pandalyzed. And it is scandalous. smile

 
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