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   lovemychrisposted 12 years ago

   I saw a quick blip on the news with Robert Gates....
   He was being grilled by Senator Leahy about Pakistan, and Leahy had a very snide attitude.
   Leahy says, "Why are we allied with a country who lies to us?"
   Gates says, "All countries lie to each other. It's how the game is played."
   Leahy; "But why do we give them money?"
   Gates; "We give money to all kinds of countries... countries that even send people to spy on us....very close allies."
   my geuss is he means Israel.
   I see Peter King has now called for hearings on Muslim terrorists in the prison system.....
   I suggest he pay attention to Zionist terrorism as well.
   Chicago, for instance.
   Larry Silverstein, of building 7 fame, owns Sears Towers....long speculated in the alternet as being the next false-flag target.
   And Rahm Immanuel, the new mayor, whose father was actually a member of a terrorist organization--Irgun.
   
   Things are coming to a head. I suggest we stop burying ours.

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      TMMasonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      He meant Pakistan and the other supposedly Islamic allies we have. I watched the hearings, Chris. It was obvious if you actually watched them and not a edited sound bite.
      
      He was talking about Pakistan arresting the 5 guys who helped us find Bin Laden, and other BS our allies have slung in our face. And that went into our allies screwing us after all we give them.
      
      I just re-watched some of that Hearing, and he may have been including Israel in that remark. So you may be right to a certain degree. But I think it was inclusive of many of our allies.

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         lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I don't know....I heard that the FBI and now the CIA has been hacked?
         My first thought was Stutnex(?).
         
         I think Gates, like so many of us, is tired of ignoring what's right in front of our face!
         
         
         and ps; didn't I say Pakistan? And didn't I say I saw a blip on the news?

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            Garrett Mickleyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            FBI and CIA have not been hacked.  The websites were taken down via a DDOS, which is when a Botnet (series of bots using cloud servers to do something all at once, in unison) sends so many packets (a block of data, usually gibberish) to a website that it crashes.
            
            This was done by a group of "hackers" who call themselves Lulz Security.  They've also ACTUALLY hacked Sony, Nintendo, Bethesda Softworks' site for their game Brink, and a few other places.

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            TMMasonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            And that is why I said you may be right Cris... good morning.

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   lovemychrisposted 12 years ago

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGL809VGcY0
   
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJvhI7sE … re=related
   
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrnFN51V … re=related

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   lovemychrisposted 12 years ago

   "9/11 and the post-9/11 crusade against Islamic nations were crimes plotted and perpetrated by what Colonel Larry Wilkerson, chief of staff to former U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell, famously called “a secretive Cabal running American foreign policy, which is undermining American democracy.”
   
   Time is running out for the 9/11 Cabal because of the possible recognition of an independent Palestinian state in the September United Nations General Assembly, making a false flag an “existentialist essential” for Zionist Zealots."
   
   
   
   http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/06/17 … -forecast/

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      TMMasonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      And that secret cabal is called the American leftists and their Progressive Right buddies, other-wise known as, Socialists.

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         John Holdenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Yes, we're coming to get you, quickly, go and check under your bed there'll be several of us under there, at least.

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            TMMasonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Your not under my bed, though that is the myth perpatrated to dismiss any who call you out. You are in my Govt and Cultural Institutions. Which was the plan set forth by your Antonio Gramsci, and you all have pulled it off flawlessly to this point in time.
            
            Shall we discuss Gramsci's long slow march? You all do not understand that America, sees you... you know how they see you all?
            
            They have begun to understand that the American Leftists and Progressives have been telling us straight out what they are going to do. It is that simple! For a century America has said, "...oh those funny Leftists, they say the damndest things". 
            
            But these days... we hear you all lound and clear and it is not funny anymore, we see, we hear, and we are waking to the fact that you are all here to do as you have said.
            
            It is that simple.

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               John Holdenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Again, you have to go back near a hundred years to find your demons!
               
               Do let's discuss Gramsci's long slow march, you first.
               
               By the way, does not your constitution uphold the rights of minorities?

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                  TMMasonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Yes it does, and that is how they subverted this nation. That was the exact arguement used by the American Leftists to defend their lil buddies back in Joe's day.
                  
                  There is an old Fed. Court Ruling that states, 'Our Constitution, though it does garauntee equality under the Law, and the Right to free association, and for one to hold thier own political views, does not garauntee anyone the right to the keys to the country's arsenal and Govt.'.
                  
                  I am para-phasing there... but you get the gist of it.
                  
                  And I already did start it... you want to continue, then feel free to defend his ideology and plan to over-turn those Govt. systems in the west, which could not be be over-turned through armed revolution.
                  
                  And it is Government, not "Giverment". We Americans do not accept Govt. imposed re-distribution of wealth and resources.
                  
                  And your comment yesterday proved my point with exactness, that all the Leftists systems base their cores on one principle, "from each accordng to his abilities, to each according to his needs".
                  
                  Marx's demented children have no place in the United State Of America. We are individuals, our system is based on Individualism and freedom of thought and choice, (and I am not talking about choice as in murdering babies, so do not start your twistings), not the collective and Social Equality at all levels.
                  
                  And do not twist what I have said...

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                     John Holdenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     No, I said that was a central tenet of communism, you twist it to "all the leftists" hardly leaves you clear to accuse me of twisting does it?
                     Or are you really so naive as to believe it really is us and them?

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                        TMMasonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        The quote you stated was used by Marx, wayyyyyyyyyyy before communism, or Stalin. Marx can righly be considered the father of all those warped ideologies. And all Leftist collectivist ideology spout that quote as if it is there own.

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                           John Holdenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           That doesn't matter, it's not what you said that I said.
                           I said that it was central tenet of communism.
                           
                           And it wasn't coined by Marx, it was Louis Blanc in 1840.

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                  Evan G Rogersposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  anything that happened 100 years ago doesn't matter any more.
                  
                  Y'know, the writing of the US Constitution, Einstein's theories of relativity, Newtonian dynamics, the theory of evolution.

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                     John Holdenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     Evan, but we aren't talking about the constitution or the theory of relativity.
                     We are talking about people and beliefs, changing mores.
                     One hundred years ago the most liberal of men would not hesitate to call a black man a nigger, employ children, think his wife was, though a grand woman, inferior to most men and certainly not to be trusted with the vote.
                     
                     But no, in TMs view, socialists are consistent, never varying, never learning.

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                        I am DB Cooperposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        And let's not forget about those Southern Democrats and their support of slavery. Apparently they are the same as the Democrats of today, which must be why the Carolinas, Georgia, Mississippi, Alabama and Tennessee are all considered Democratic strongholds.
                        
                        Also, I noticed TM hasn't mentioned the Nazi/Socialist connection in this thread yet. Are you aware that Nazi is short for National Socialism? Because if not I'm sure TM will be there to remind you. Never mind the fact that the word "socialism" was used just to sell it to the German people, and the ideology was in fact much different than other socialist regimes. Also, I rarely see mention of the fact that the Nazi party was anti-communist, in part because of communism's connection to atheism.

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   lovemychrisposted 12 years ago

   Well, I'm talking about Zionists here...are they leftists?
   Because if they pull another 9/11 against my country, That will be the ultimate last straw.
   Hard to decipher what's going on, but I'm pretty sure I know who the enemy is...at least partially.
   
   And as another blogger said at another site: The in-fighting has begun.

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      TMMasonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      So your a truther? What a laugh.

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         lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Errrr--I take it you didn't watch the videos....or hear me clearly in the OP: "I suggest he pay attention to Zionist terrorism as well."
         
         Yes--9/11 was an inside job,and factions in Israel helped. And --it's the people you idolize....that's why I asked if Zionists were lefties. Since you hate lefties, but the Zionists are the problem. See?

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            TMMasonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            So then you would say that FDR set us up in WWII for a false flag at pearl harbor.

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               lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Yes, I believe he knew the Japanese were coming.

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                  lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  "Governments do not govern, but merely control the machinery of government, being themselves controlled by the hidden hand."
                  - Benjamin Disraeli
                  
                  Did you ever wonder WHY America turned Jewish people away after the Holocaust?
                  I do.
                  Why would we turn people away who were in such dire need?
                  
                  It was deliberate, of course. They wanted to set up a rogue state, and they used Jewish and Arab people to do it. Nazi's never went away--they just went underground.
                  
                  Still in power IMO.
                  And the grease is money. They own it, they print it, they control it. And everything else in between.
                  
                  You keep telling me my enemy is my friend. I don't think so.
                  "You will know them by their fruits."

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   lovemychrisposted 12 years ago

   Whoa! On a hunch, I googled "was joe mccarthy a zionist?" and got this!
   
   "Illuminati Bankers Controlled Joseph McCarthy
   November 24, 2010
   
   (McCarthy -- March 8, 1954 Edition of TIME)
   
   "We were the ones that wrote the speeches for McCarthy  back in West Virginia that started his build-up into the famous  anti-Communist that he is today. Our pressure on the press resulted in  his getting as much attention as he has. In return for this build-up  he agreed not to call up or expose Jews in the Communist movement by  the investigations through his sub-committee."
   
   by Michael Collins Piper
   (from his 2006 book, "The Judas Goats")
   
   DeWest Hooker (1918-1999) was an American patriot and successful businessman.  During the 1950s, he uncovered a Zionist effort to control the "anti-communist" movement, an  eye-opening and sobering revelation for Americans who are unaware of how Illuminati bankers manipulate public perception."
   
   http://www.henrymakow.com/mccarthy.html
   
   Whoa, huh?

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      TMMasonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Good thing the internet is there to guide you to the truth. oh brother!

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         lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Better than Beckles the Clown
         
         and World Net Daily.

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   lovemychrisposted 12 years ago

   Excellent article!!
   
   "So it seems that the common trait shared by all those who tend to be inhumane and corrupt is neither race, creed, nor color. What they all have in common is power, opportunity, and greed. And let there be no doubt, that’s the source of all of the turmoil in the Middle-East – the power, opportunity, and greed of Israel and the American military/industrial complex.
   
   But whenever anyone seeks to examine this issue they’re immediately met with hysterical charges of being either unpatriotic, anti-Semitic, or both. So while everyone is aware of the problem, we tend to turn a blind eye to it.
   
   This is an issue that desperately needs to be addressed, because due to our failure to do so, American troops are dying, the United States treasury is being looted, and the entire world is being placed at risk. So enough with all of the name-calling and accusations. Israel’s behavior needs to be scrutinized just like any other country in the world."
   
   http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/06/17 … nd-racism/

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   Hollie Thomasposted 12 years ago

   Obviously in the States you will not have seen a production by Channel 4 news that was aired in the Uk this week- Sri Lankas killing fields,  chronicaling the last few weeks of the Sr-Lankan civil war.  Israel was implicated as it appears that Israeli fighter jets were used to bomb and devastate so-called safe zones, many of which were hospitals filled with civilians. It was really quite horrific.

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   John Holdenposted 12 years ago

   Ah yes,thank you DB, I had forgotten that Hitler was a socialist. He did manage to keep it rather well hidden.
   Being anti union was a very good ruse to hide his socialism, as was his nationalism.

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